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	<title>Comments on: England wins Ashes, 16 months of barmy humour ahead</title>
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		<title>By: Jarrod Kimber</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/england-wins-ashes-16-months-of-barmy-humour-ahead/#comment-35514</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarrod Kimber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rowan, You are probably spot on. Dimi Mascarenhas, Tim Ambrose, Geraint Jones and Darren Pattinson have all represented England in the last few years. Only one of them was a shield player. Brendan Nash is playing for the West Indies at the moment. 

Leon Trotsky, compare that to Watto, BJ, or Sids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rowan, You are probably spot on. Dimi Mascarenhas, Tim Ambrose, Geraint Jones and Darren Pattinson have all represented England in the last few years. Only one of them was a shield player. Brendan Nash is playing for the West Indies at the moment. </p>
<p>Leon Trotsky, compare that to Watto, BJ, or Sids.</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh Josey</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/england-wins-ashes-16-months-of-barmy-humour-ahead/#comment-35512</link>
		<dc:creator>Leigh Josey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leon&#039;s a cool nickname? :)</description>
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		<title>By: Rowan</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/england-wins-ashes-16-months-of-barmy-humour-ahead/#comment-35500</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was about to say that South Africa might be worried about losing all this talent, but then again, you could probably find a dozen or two State cricketers* in Australia, who if given the chance, could become quite accomplished international players for other countries.

* State cricketers who do not have a Cricket Australia contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was about to say that South Africa might be worried about losing all this talent, but then again, you could probably find a dozen or two State cricketers* in Australia, who if given the chance, could become quite accomplished international players for other countries.</p>
<p>* State cricketers who do not have a Cricket Australia contract.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarrod Kimber</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/england-wins-ashes-16-months-of-barmy-humour-ahead/#comment-35499</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarrod Kimber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mentioned the South African born stat simply because it is amazing. Soon England could have 4 players in their top 6 who were born in South Africa, how can anyone say that is not a great stat? It wasn&#039;t a dig, as Strauss and Prior are essentially English, and KP has an English mother. Trott is perhaps the least English, but he has English grandparents although he did play underage cricket for South Africa. None of them are pure mercenaries like Grant Elliott of New Zealand. But 4 players out of 6 from one country, amazing. With the amount of young South Africans qualifying for England the numbers could increase. 

I should have mentioned this before, Trott is supposedly related to Albert and Harry Trott of Australia, his nickname is Leon (why can&#039;t Australians have cool nicknames like this), and he actually bowls quite handy Steve Waugh/Craig McMillan style medium pace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mentioned the South African born stat simply because it is amazing. Soon England could have 4 players in their top 6 who were born in South Africa, how can anyone say that is not a great stat? It wasn&#8217;t a dig, as Strauss and Prior are essentially English, and KP has an English mother. Trott is perhaps the least English, but he has English grandparents although he did play underage cricket for South Africa. None of them are pure mercenaries like Grant Elliott of New Zealand. But 4 players out of 6 from one country, amazing. With the amount of young South Africans qualifying for England the numbers could increase. </p>
<p>I should have mentioned this before, Trott is supposedly related to Albert and Harry Trott of Australia, his nickname is Leon (why can&#8217;t Australians have cool nicknames like this), and he actually bowls quite handy Steve Waugh/Craig McMillan style medium pace.</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh Josey</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/england-wins-ashes-16-months-of-barmy-humour-ahead/#comment-35459</link>
		<dc:creator>Leigh Josey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s Jarrod and your&#039;s truly&#039;s latest podcast for anyone who&#039;s interested: http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/25/podcast-the-i-cant-believe-england-won-the-ashes-podcast/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s Jarrod and your&#8217;s truly&#8217;s latest podcast for anyone who&#8217;s interested: <a href="http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/25/podcast-the-i-cant-believe-england-won-the-ashes-podcast/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/25/podcast-the-i-cant-believe-england-won-the-ashes-podcast/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Leigh Josey</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/england-wins-ashes-16-months-of-barmy-humour-ahead/#comment-35420</link>
		<dc:creator>Leigh Josey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Not quite sure how Flintoff managed to deserve the description “gimpish” in the original article. &quot;

Jarrod likens Flintoff to a gimp because of his injured knee Robert. Saying that, he&#039;s one hell of a gimp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>Not quite sure how Flintoff managed to deserve the description “gimpish” in the original article. &#8220;</p>
<p>Jarrod likens Flintoff to a gimp because of his injured knee Robert. Saying that, he&#8217;s one hell of a gimp.</p>
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		<title>By: Heathdon McGregor</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/england-wins-ashes-16-months-of-barmy-humour-ahead/#comment-35386</link>
		<dc:creator>Heathdon McGregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 02:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>apologies

I thought ponting had the strike not Hussey. Still should have said no</description>
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<p>I thought ponting had the strike not Hussey. Still should have said no</p>
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		<title>By: RaymondChurch</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/england-wins-ashes-16-months-of-barmy-humour-ahead/#comment-35384</link>
		<dc:creator>RaymondChurch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we should not go down the path whinging about Sth African born players in the English team. Australians should cast an eye over their other national sporting selections, before adopting that line if sore losing. Australian teams have a great sprinkling of &quot;other&quot; former nationals, lets start with soccer, athletics, rugby, swimming oh no dangerous ground :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we should not go down the path whinging about Sth African born players in the English team. Australians should cast an eye over their other national sporting selections, before adopting that line if sore losing. Australian teams have a great sprinkling of &#8220;other&#8221; former nationals, lets start with soccer, athletics, rugby, swimming oh no dangerous ground <img src='http://www.crikey.com.au/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert Wingrove</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/england-wins-ashes-16-months-of-barmy-humour-ahead/#comment-35381</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Wingrove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not quite sure how Flintoff managed to deserve the description &quot;gimpish&quot; in the original article. 

Lovely to see the whingeing about South African born players - I suppose a country that got dudded by the great dullard Kepler Wessels will have a thing about this. 

This was a test series played by two average teams. Ponting might be a great player but he is a poor captain and gets &quot;upset&quot; far too easily. Johnson spent most of the series stomping around like a 12 year old. When you see one of the Australian &quot;selectors&quot; plopping out his beer gut every lunch break and glaring anytime anyone doubts the wisdom of his &quot;insight&quot; you get the strong feeling that such a task might be better given to someone who doesn&#039;t have to play class clown for a living. He then capped it by saying that you &quot;weren&#039;t allowed to lose to England&quot;! Poor bubba, my lickle heart bleeds for him. 

I dare say Australia will beat England again in 10/11, but for all that the era of McGrath, Warne, Waughs, Taylor and Hayden is gone and the spoilt Australian sporting public will have to get used to losing again from time to time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not quite sure how Flintoff managed to deserve the description &#8220;gimpish&#8221; in the original article. </p>
<p>Lovely to see the whingeing about South African born players - I suppose a country that got dudded by the great dullard Kepler Wessels will have a thing about this. </p>
<p>This was a test series played by two average teams. Ponting might be a great player but he is a poor captain and gets &#8220;upset&#8221; far too easily. Johnson spent most of the series stomping around like a 12 year old. When you see one of the Australian &#8220;selectors&#8221; plopping out his beer gut every lunch break and glaring anytime anyone doubts the wisdom of his &#8220;insight&#8221; you get the strong feeling that such a task might be better given to someone who doesn&#8217;t have to play class clown for a living. He then capped it by saying that you &#8220;weren&#8217;t allowed to lose to England&#8221;! Poor bubba, my lickle heart bleeds for him. </p>
<p>I dare say Australia will beat England again in 10/11, but for all that the era of McGrath, Warne, Waughs, Taylor and Hayden is gone and the spoilt Australian sporting public will have to get used to losing again from time to time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarrod Kimber</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/england-wins-ashes-16-months-of-barmy-humour-ahead/#comment-35376</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarrod Kimber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers Heathdon.

Pritam, way more than 5.  

Ian Greig, Tony Greig, Allan Lamb, Basil D&#039;Oliveira, Kevin Pietersen, Matthew Prior, Neal Radford, Chris Smith, Robin Smith, Andrew Strauss
and now Jonathan Trott. Those are just the ones I know of. Expect alot more in the next 4/5 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers Heathdon.</p>
<p>Pritam, way more than 5.  </p>
<p>Ian Greig, Tony Greig, Allan Lamb, Basil D&#8217;Oliveira, Kevin Pietersen, Matthew Prior, Neal Radford, Chris Smith, Robin Smith, Andrew Strauss<br />
and now Jonathan Trott. Those are just the ones I know of. Expect alot more in the next 4/5 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Rowan</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/england-wins-ashes-16-months-of-barmy-humour-ahead/#comment-35361</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That raises another interesting point. Is there anyone in the Australia team who gives you the impression that they don&#039;t want to be liked? Or to put it differently, is there anyone in the team -- with the exception of Ponting -- who has the experience, seniority and nerve to give a teammate a serve when they&#039;re out of line or performing poorly?

You need a hard task master when things get tough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That raises another interesting point. Is there anyone in the Australia team who gives you the impression that they don&#8217;t want to be liked? Or to put it differently, is there anyone in the team&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;with the exception of Ponting&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;who has the experience, seniority and nerve to give a teammate a serve when they&#8217;re out of line or performing poorly?</p>
<p>You need a hard task master when things get tough.</p>
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		<title>By: Bullmore's Ghost</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/england-wins-ashes-16-months-of-barmy-humour-ahead/#comment-35359</link>
		<dc:creator>Bullmore's Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(make that *internalizing* issues. I have to learn to type or get a better spelling checker)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(make that *internalizing* issues. I have to learn to type or get a better spelling checker)</p>
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		<title>By: Bullmore's Ghost</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/england-wins-ashes-16-months-of-barmy-humour-ahead/#comment-35358</link>
		<dc:creator>Bullmore's Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Of course if you are the team’s best player then this puts you in a sticky position and one, probably only Bradman ever negotiated effectively.&quot;

That raises an interesting and I think salient point. Bradman was respected by his team members, but not liked. Border was known as Captain Cranky and that&#039;s fine by me if being cranky means not standing around chewing gum and spitting on your hands but rather putting the wind up underperforming players. Steve Waugh was apparently not backward in telling you exactly what he thought of your performance either.

I&#039;ve not heard of Ponting laying down the law, but I do see him internalization issues. Oh to be a fly on the wall in team meetings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>Of course if you are the team’s best player then this puts you in a sticky position and one, probably only Bradman ever negotiated effectively.&#8221;</p>
<p>That raises an interesting and I think salient point. Bradman was respected by his team members, but not liked. Border was known as Captain Cranky and that&#8217;s fine by me if being cranky means not standing around chewing gum and spitting on your hands but rather putting the wind up underperforming players. Steve Waugh was apparently not backward in telling you exactly what he thought of your performance either.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not heard of Ponting laying down the law, but I do see him internalization issues. Oh to be a fly on the wall in team meetings.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a good player doesn&#039;t make you a good captain. Look at the English experience since Vaughan. And being inspirational isn&#039;t all its cracked up to be either. You need inspirational leaders to create suicide bombers but they don&#039;t necessarily achieve anything positive.   

I think Cricket Australia needs to think seriously about getting selectors who don&#039;t need the job and a captain who isn&#039;t full of self admiration when he sees Captain beside his name.  Being captain is any cricketer&#039;s boyhood dream but somebody should tell these boyhood dreamers that being the captain is more about taking tough decisions like putting people you dont like in ahead of your friends for the sake of the country. Being captain means sacrificing yourself to ensure that others who are better players are able to deliver to the full potential. Being captain is about you being the chessmaster allowing the battle to be won by your knights. Of course if you are the team&#039;s best player then this puts you in a sticky position and one, probably only Bradman ever negotiated effectively.

I believe that those current players who are out of favour must feel disheartened and find it hard to lift, even when they force their way into the team, while those in favour feel smugly secure and as a result overconfident. Neither situation is appropriate. An even handed captain who plays no favourites is always a better bet. I am not sure the annointed one has this level of maturity and maybe it is time to start thinking about what truly makes a good captain and select accordingly. 

Take Clive Lloyd,  he was a perfect combination of manners, talent and leadership. Mind you, he had a great team but he also managed some big egos skilfully enough for them to perform to their ability on almost every occasion they took the field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a good player doesn&#8217;t make you a good captain. Look at the English experience since Vaughan. And being inspirational isn&#8217;t all its cracked up to be either. You need inspirational leaders to create suicide bombers but they don&#8217;t necessarily achieve anything positive.   </p>
<p>I think Cricket Australia needs to think seriously about getting selectors who don&#8217;t need the job and a captain who isn&#8217;t full of self admiration when he sees Captain beside his name.  Being captain is any cricketer&#8217;s boyhood dream but somebody should tell these boyhood dreamers that being the captain is more about taking tough decisions like putting people you dont like in ahead of your friends for the sake of the country. Being captain means sacrificing yourself to ensure that others who are better players are able to deliver to the full potential. Being captain is about you being the chessmaster allowing the battle to be won by your knights. Of course if you are the team&#8217;s best player then this puts you in a sticky position and one, probably only Bradman ever negotiated effectively.</p>
<p>I believe that those current players who are out of favour must feel disheartened and find it hard to lift, even when they force their way into the team, while those in favour feel smugly secure and as a result overconfident. Neither situation is appropriate. An even handed captain who plays no favourites is always a better bet. I am not sure the annointed one has this level of maturity and maybe it is time to start thinking about what truly makes a good captain and select accordingly. </p>
<p>Take Clive Lloyd,  he was a perfect combination of manners, talent and leadership. Mind you, he had a great team but he also managed some big egos skilfully enough for them to perform to their ability on almost every occasion they took the field.</p>
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		<title>By: Rowan</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/england-wins-ashes-16-months-of-barmy-humour-ahead/#comment-35349</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you might be right. We&#039;ll see.

Re: the Captain being a selector, New Zealand just officially made the Captain and Coach of their side selectors (but only so long as they are Captain and Coach). It&#039;s an interesting move... only time will tell if it&#039;s a good one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you might be right. We&#8217;ll see.</p>
<p>Re: the Captain being a selector, New Zealand just officially made the Captain and Coach of their side selectors (but only so long as they are Captain and Coach). It&#8217;s an interesting move&#8230; only time will tell if it&#8217;s a good one.</p>
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		<title>By: Bullmore's Ghost</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/england-wins-ashes-16-months-of-barmy-humour-ahead/#comment-35348</link>
		<dc:creator>Bullmore's Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stand corrected on my earlier post: I thought the captain was part of our panel of selectors but these days it seems he&#039;s &quot;heavily consulted&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand corrected on my earlier post: I thought the captain was part of our panel of selectors but these days it seems he&#8217;s &#8220;heavily consulted&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bullmore's Ghost</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/england-wins-ashes-16-months-of-barmy-humour-ahead/#comment-35346</link>
		<dc:creator>Bullmore's Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... but my guess is that within Cricket Australia, where sentimentality rules, and they&#039;ll let him have another crack in 2011.

Let&#039;s see what happens in the &#039;tween season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; but my guess is that within Cricket Australia, where sentimentality rules, and they&#8217;ll let him have another crack in 2011.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see what happens in the &#8216;tween season.</p>
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		<title>By: Bullmore's Ghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bullmore's Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every new captain goes through a baptism of fire. Ponting was pretty ordinary to begin with (some would say that he only ever shone in the role when he was heading a team of champions -- it&#039;s another thing altogether to have have to lead on the field) and Border didn&#039;t want the job but he grew into it.

I think Clarke has what it takes, he just needs to become a little more serious in his on-field demeanor but I think that would come with a test captaincy.

I always thought Warne would be a far better on field captain that Ponting because I think Warne has a better cricket brain (the only brain he has in fact), but of course off field was out of the question.

But back to Ponting: I think he&#039;s reached the end of his run and as the famous slogan goes: It&#039;s time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every new captain goes through a baptism of fire. Ponting was pretty ordinary to begin with (some would say that he only ever shone in the role when he was heading a team of champions&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;it&#8217;s another thing altogether to have have to lead on the field) and Border didn&#8217;t want the job but he grew into it.</p>
<p>I think Clarke has what it takes, he just needs to become a little more serious in his on-field demeanor but I think that would come with a test captaincy.</p>
<p>I always thought Warne would be a far better on field captain that Ponting because I think Warne has a better cricket brain (the only brain he has in fact), but of course off field was out of the question.</p>
<p>But back to Ponting: I think he&#8217;s reached the end of his run and as the famous slogan goes: It&#8217;s time.</p>
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		<title>By: Rowan</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/england-wins-ashes-16-months-of-barmy-humour-ahead/#comment-35341</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with giving Clarke a go as Captain is what if he&#039;s no good? Then we&#039;ll need to try a different Captain and we&#039;ll start to look like the West Indies, a different Captain every couple of years.

Maybe Ponting isn&#039;t a great Captain or maybe Australia isn&#039;t a great team anymore?

Never the less, yes, there seems to have been some logic missing from the selection process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with giving Clarke a go as Captain is what if he&#8217;s no good? Then we&#8217;ll need to try a different Captain and we&#8217;ll start to look like the West Indies, a different Captain every couple of years.</p>
<p>Maybe Ponting isn&#8217;t a great Captain or maybe Australia isn&#8217;t a great team anymore?</p>
<p>Never the less, yes, there seems to have been some logic missing from the selection process.</p>
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		<title>By: Bullmore's Ghost</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/england-wins-ashes-16-months-of-barmy-humour-ahead/#comment-35340</link>
		<dc:creator>Bullmore's Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... I think there is something to the suggestion that mateship overrode logic in the selection process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; I think there is something to the suggestion that mateship overrode logic in the selection process.</p>
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		<title>By: Bullmore's Ghost</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/england-wins-ashes-16-months-of-barmy-humour-ahead/#comment-35339</link>
		<dc:creator>Bullmore's Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Ponting needs to be sacked. I think he needs to stand down of his own volition. It really is time for some fresh air at the top of the test team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Ponting needs to be sacked. I think he needs to stand down of his own volition. It really is time for some fresh air at the top of the test team.</p>
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		<title>By: Rowan</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/england-wins-ashes-16-months-of-barmy-humour-ahead/#comment-35336</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Australia is destined for a rocky few years and sacking Ponting would just make the road rockier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Australia is destined for a rocky few years and sacking Ponting would just make the road rockier.</p>
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		<title>By: Bullmore's Ghost</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/england-wins-ashes-16-months-of-barmy-humour-ahead/#comment-35331</link>
		<dc:creator>Bullmore's Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was said that England sent a B team to the Ashes here in 2007 and I reckon we sent an A- team to England this year.

Justice in these things would have the selectors automatically fired for failure along with any underperforming players. And the Captain is a selector, too.

As for Warne, he is a self-confession idiot (recall his attempts to cover himself in the diuretic affair), however, he livens up an otherwise dull English commentary team and voices the questions many viewers would have.

Although Clarke&#039;s maturity comes into question at times, I don&#039;t want to see Ponting head up another Ashes team, regardless of pressure from him or others to try to square up the score.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was said that England sent a B team to the Ashes here in 2007 and I reckon we sent an A- team to England this year.</p>
<p>Justice in these things would have the selectors automatically fired for failure along with any underperforming players. And the Captain is a selector, too.</p>
<p>As for Warne, he is a self-confession idiot (recall his attempts to cover himself in the diuretic affair), however, he livens up an otherwise dull English commentary team and voices the questions many viewers would have.</p>
<p>Although Clarke&#8217;s maturity comes into question at times, I don&#8217;t want to see Ponting head up another Ashes team, regardless of pressure from him or others to try to square up the score.</p>
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		<title>By: Heathdon McGregor</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/england-wins-ashes-16-months-of-barmy-humour-ahead/#comment-35290</link>
		<dc:creator>Heathdon McGregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 06:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard

I too was a little amazed regarding Warnes remarks about the stumping. A magnificent decision which appeared risky if wrong. Good to see an umpire get one absolutely right and the commentators dont give the credit. Unfair</description>
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<p>I too was a little amazed regarding Warnes remarks about the stumping. A magnificent decision which appeared risky if wrong. Good to see an umpire get one absolutely right and the commentators dont give the credit. Unfair</p>
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		<title>By: Rowan</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/england-wins-ashes-16-months-of-barmy-humour-ahead/#comment-35281</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 05:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh. :-)

Yeah, I would have liked to see Lee get a chance. He might have been underdone, but he has experience on his side and would have been far more consistent. It&#039;s unfair on the rest of the team if they need to carry a player until they find form.

Johnson and Hussey should have been replaced after the first Test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh. <img src='http://www.crikey.com.au/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yeah, I would have liked to see Lee get a chance. He might have been underdone, but he has experience on his side and would have been far more consistent. It&#8217;s unfair on the rest of the team if they need to carry a player until they find form.</p>
<p>Johnson and Hussey should have been replaced after the first Test.</p>
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