Comments on: The Kyle and Jackie O Code of Contrition http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/18/the-kyle-and-jackie-o-code-of-contrition/ now with extra source Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:48:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: jose carreras http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/18/the-kyle-and-jackie-o-code-of-contrition/#comment-34668 jose carreras Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:30:55 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/18/the-kyle-and-jackie-o-code-of-contrition/#comment-34668 I mostly agree with you Jim especially with respect to the ritual sadism segment media watch highlighted. I always worry when governments and their regulatory bodies start talking about community standards. Rock and Roll music would never have been played on Australian radio if the conservative governments of the day had been able to strictly enforce "community standards". The lie detector stunt was however a completely different category in that involved a child. No child should be exposed to that sort of abuse and humiliation even if the topic hadn't been about sex. As to the media watch highlighted segment, well whilst it was highly distasteful the reality is that as far as I understand it the participants were adults (ie old enough to vote and drink in Australia). If adults are dumb enough to expose themselves to the sort of manipulation and humiliatiion any reasonable person would expect to receive at the hands of a commercial radio station in this day and age then is it really ACMA's job to protect them from themselves? I mostly agree with you Jim especially with respect to the ritual sadism segment media watch highlighted. I always worry when governments and their regulatory bodies start talking about community standards. Rock and Roll music would never have been played on Australian radio if the conservative governments of the day had been able to strictly enforce “community standards”.
The lie detector stunt was however a completely different category in that involved a child. No child should be exposed to that sort of abuse and humiliation even if the topic hadn’t been about sex.

As to the media watch highlighted segment, well whilst it was highly distasteful the reality is that as far as I understand it the participants were adults (ie old enough to vote and drink in Australia). If adults are dumb enough to expose themselves to the sort of manipulation and humiliatiion any reasonable person would expect to receive at the hands of a commercial radio station in this day and age then is it really ACMA’s job to protect them from themselves?

]]> By: Jim Reiher http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/18/the-kyle-and-jackie-o-code-of-contrition/#comment-34655 Jim Reiher Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:54:59 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/18/the-kyle-and-jackie-o-code-of-contrition/#comment-34655 If enough listerers keep coming back to listen, then the same level of show will be aired. If audiences drop off, advertisers will too and things will change. The fact that the audiences do NOT drop off says more about the tone of modern Australian culture, than about Kyle and Jackie personally. I read the full script of what was said on that lie-detector day. (Thanks Crikey for providing it). I think that Jackie and Kyle were caught unaware and quite tossed by the whole turn of events. Kyle stumbled with his response; Jackie was concerned for the child - the whole thing was a mess and live to air. Is their apology sincere? Probably. Will things change? Not much. The audience "out there" still wants that sort of stuff. And so advertisers will still pay - and the same kind of shows will continue. So...how do we change the tone of our own culture to reject that kind of superficial and intrusive entertainment? If enough listerers keep coming back to listen, then the same level of show will be aired.

If audiences drop off, advertisers will too and things will change. The fact that the audiences do NOT drop off says more about the tone of modern Australian culture, than about Kyle and Jackie personally.

I read the full script of what was said on that lie-detector day. (Thanks Crikey for providing it). I think that Jackie and Kyle were caught unaware and quite tossed by the whole turn of events. Kyle stumbled with his response; Jackie was concerned for the child - the whole thing was a mess and live to air.

Is their apology sincere? Probably. Will things change? Not much. The audience “out there” still wants that sort of stuff. And so advertisers will still pay - and the same kind of shows will continue.

So…how do we change the tone of our own culture to reject that kind of superficial and intrusive entertainment?

]]> By: RaymondChurch http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/18/the-kyle-and-jackie-o-code-of-contrition/#comment-34652 RaymondChurch Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:48:04 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/18/the-kyle-and-jackie-o-code-of-contrition/#comment-34652 The gutless ACMA doesnt have the spine to persue a fly crawling up a wall. Once again the radio community is held up to ridicule by the minority over paid big noters, their minders and their advertisers. It is a great pity those who still consider themselves 'professional broadcasters'don't band together and let their distaste of the likes of Sandilands and his cohort, be known and known on the public air waves, through their own shows. If the countries radio personalities are to be judged as a group by the disgraceful antics of the 2Day Fm creeps, then the standards in this country are worse than I feared. The gutless ACMA doesnt have the spine to persue a fly crawling up a wall. Once again the radio community is held up to ridicule by the minority over paid big noters, their minders and their advertisers. It is a great pity those who still consider themselves ‘professional broadcasters’don’t band together and let their distaste of the likes of Sandilands and his cohort, be known and known on the public air waves, through their own shows. If the countries radio personalities are to be judged as a group by the disgraceful antics of the 2Day Fm creeps, then the standards in this country are worse than I feared.

]]> By: meski http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/18/the-kyle-and-jackie-o-code-of-contrition/#comment-34615 meski Tue, 18 Aug 2009 03:55:30 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/18/the-kyle-and-jackie-o-code-of-contrition/#comment-34615 Try this for a 'process' Kyle & Jackie - hook yourselves up to the lie detector so that it cuts you off whenever you lie. Ah, for the wonderful sounds of silence you'd hear on Austereo. Try this for a ‘process’ Kyle & Jackie - hook yourselves up to the lie detector so that it cuts you off whenever you lie. Ah, for the wonderful sounds of silence you’d hear on Austereo.

]]> By: Margaret Bozik http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/18/the-kyle-and-jackie-o-code-of-contrition/#comment-34607 Margaret Bozik Tue, 18 Aug 2009 03:39:45 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/18/the-kyle-and-jackie-o-code-of-contrition/#comment-34607 I think Kyle and Jackie O's apology has all the sincerity we come to expect from them (ie: none). Just because something is popular doesn't mean that it is good. For example, burning of witches, stoning of adulators, lynching of blacks, feeding Christians to the lions and watching gladiators duel to the death have all been popular in history. And it will only be a matter of time before attractions like this return if the sociopaths behind many popular reality tv and radio shows aren't held in check by the rest of us. I think Kyle and Jackie O’s apology has all the sincerity we come to expect from them (ie: none). Just because something is popular doesn’t mean that it is good. For example, burning of witches, stoning of adulators, lynching of blacks, feeding Christians to the lions and watching gladiators duel to the death have all been popular in history. And it will only be a matter of time before attractions like this return if the sociopaths behind many popular reality tv and radio shows aren’t held in check by the rest of us.

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