Comments on: Cubbie Station out to con the taxpayer, says Heffernan http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/ now with extra source Sun, 12 Feb 2012 07:14:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Huey Benjamin http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34706 Huey Benjamin Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:07:16 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34706 C'mon Bernard pull the other one!! Yeah for sure, Bill has been observing and preaching sustainable farming practices for years, the lone voice in the wilderness calling for the whole agricultural industry to join his merry crusade........NOT!!! Prof Bill Heffernan the emeritus prof of rural sociology from Missouri he ain't!! C’mon Bernard

pull the other one!! Yeah for sure, Bill has been observing and preaching sustainable farming practices for years, the lone voice in the wilderness calling for the whole agricultural industry to join his merry crusade……..NOT!!! Prof Bill Heffernan the emeritus prof of rural sociology from Missouri he ain’t!!

]]> By: Bernard Keane http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34685 Bernard Keane Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:55:39 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34685 To those expressing shock at Heffernan being right - whatever you may think of him Heffernan has lived and breathed environmental issues for decades and has more soundly-based views on such matters than most of us will ever have. To those expressing shock at Heffernan being right - whatever you may think of him Heffernan has lived and breathed environmental issues for decades and has more soundly-based views on such matters than most of us will ever have.

]]> By: bakerboy http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34564 bakerboy Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:16:25 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34564 WTF are we doing using valuable water required by the Murray Darling system to grow cotton at Cubbie!! This is the most inappropriate crop to be growing in Australia - it requires lots of water and lots of pesticide to keep it healthy. Let's import cotton from Bangladesh which has the water and needs the income. WTF are we doing using valuable water required by the Murray Darling system to grow cotton at Cubbie!! This is the most inappropriate crop to be growing in Australia - it requires lots of water and lots of pesticide to keep it healthy. Let’s import cotton from Bangladesh which has the water and needs the income.

]]> By: AR http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34558 AR Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:56:47 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34558 An ancient saw, but none the worse for that -"adversity breedeth strange bedfellows". I'm not too keen on Bill trying to force wheat out of his arid plains in the odd "good" year (Oz wheat yields, even in the wet 80s ,was significantly less -1.02 tonnes pHa- than an Iraqi peasant -1.5 tonnes pHa- sources Australian Year Books 1980 -1989 - with a bullock & a bent stick, on land that has been hammered for 3,000 yerars SINCE the Summerians warned Gilgamesh of the 'white plague" (salt) covering the land. It IS a Qld gov responsibility, pure & simple. Xenophon, as with so much else, has the simple, correct and non-argument answer, Federal responsibility for the waters of the Murray-Darling, aka ( long ago, in a country far, far away) as the OVERFLOW!!!!, aka the CHANNEL Country. Look at a a topographic map, the ABoriginals of the (now) arid Interior lived on fish omlettes before the arrival of euroids & axes & hard hooved animals. An ancient saw, but none the worse for that -“adversity breedeth strange bedfellows”. I’m not too keen on Bill trying to force wheat out of his arid plains in the odd “good” year (Oz wheat yields, even in the wet 80s ,was significantly less -1.02 tonnes pHa- than an Iraqi peasant -1.5 tonnes pHa- sources Australian Year Books 1980 -1989 - with a bullock & a bent stick, on land that has been hammered for 3,000 yerars SINCE the Summerians warned Gilgamesh of the ‘white plague” (salt) covering the land.
It IS a Qld gov responsibility, pure & simple. Xenophon, as with so much else, has the simple, correct and non-argument answer, Federal responsibility for the waters of the Murray-Darling, aka ( long ago, in a country far, far away) as the OVERFLOW!!!!, aka the CHANNEL Country. Look at a a topographic map, the ABoriginals of the (now) arid Interior lived on fish omlettes before the arrival of euroids & axes & hard hooved animals.

]]> By: Venise Alstergren http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34548 Venise Alstergren Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:30:10 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34548 Something's gone wrong. I've been working my heart out and pretty well silent for at least two weeks. At last I've finished and have gratefully resumed my association with/Crikey. What does Crikey do? Bernard Keane it isn't April Fools day; what's going on? Bill Heffernan saying something sensible? BK, what have you been smoking? Please could you let me have some? Cubbie Station is more than a national disgrace. It is a national illumination of the attitude of most of the members of the National Party, and the people who vote for it. Also it is a grim reminder to anyone who might be harbouring a desire to vote for any member of the Liberal Party who has willfully chosen to ignore the huge part it has had to play in the destruction of the Murray Darling rivers/basin. Now we are asked to believe Bill Heffernan's announcement? Sorry but I don't think so. There has to be an ulterior motive behind this. Something’s gone wrong. I’ve been working my heart out and pretty well silent for at least two weeks.
At last I’ve finished and have gratefully resumed my association with/Crikey. What does Crikey do? Bernard Keane it isn’t April Fools day; what’s going on? Bill Heffernan saying something sensible? BK, what have you been smoking? Please could you let me have some?
Cubbie Station is more than a national disgrace. It is a national illumination of the attitude of most of the members of the National Party, and the people who vote for it. Also it is a grim reminder to anyone who might be harbouring a desire to vote for any member of the Liberal Party who has willfully chosen to ignore the huge part it has had to play in the destruction of the Murray Darling rivers/basin.
Now we are asked to believe Bill Heffernan’s announcement? Sorry but I don’t think so. There has to be an ulterior motive behind this.

]]> By: John Bennetts http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34547 John Bennetts Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:28:08 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34547 Quite possibly, the appropriate body to prune Cubby Station's entitlements to water, especially surface runoff, is the QLD Gov't. Like the NSW Gov't and coal owners' rights some years back, quite possibly the Qld constitution does not require restitution in the same way that the Australian constitution does. In other words, if Canberra claims back the water, it almost certainly will have to pay dearly for doing so. However, states were constituted many years previously and the Crown, acting as the state government, may have a bigger stick to wield. Time for Canberra to get tough with Queensland? Quite possibly, the appropriate body to prune Cubby Station’s entitlements to water, especially surface runoff, is the QLD Gov’t. Like the NSW Gov’t and coal owners’ rights some years back, quite possibly the Qld constitution does not require restitution in the same way that the Australian constitution does.

In other words, if Canberra claims back the water, it almost certainly will have to pay dearly for doing so. However, states were constituted many years previously and the Crown, acting as the state government, may have a bigger stick to wield.

Time for Canberra to get tough with Queensland?

]]> By: meski http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34546 meski Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:27:06 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34546 You've got to wonder if Bill isn't being clever, and he wants the reverse of what he is saying to go ahead. But then he'd be being clever, and ohhh! My head hurts! Stop it! You’ve got to wonder if Bill isn’t being clever, and he wants the reverse of what he is saying to go ahead. But then he’d be being clever, and ohhh! My head hurts! Stop it!

]]> By: Frank Campbell http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34534 Frank Campbell Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:53:51 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34534 Cubbie Station is an ecocrime of Madoff proportions. The Qld Govt. is the responsible authority, an oxymoron in this case. No more water theft. Cotton and rice in the arid zone? Genius. Let a hundred carpet-baggers bloom...John Elliott, are you there? Cubbie Station is an ecocrime of Madoff proportions. The Qld Govt. is the responsible authority, an oxymoron in this case.

No more water theft.

Cotton and rice in the arid zone? Genius. Let a hundred carpet-baggers bloom…John Elliott, are you there?

]]> By: stephen martin http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34531 stephen martin Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:43:13 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34531 Cubbie Group Chairman Keith de Lacy: Keith De Lacy was for fifteen years the Labor member for Cairns and Treasurer of Queensland from 1989 to 1996. Well, well how surprising! Cubbie Group Chairman Keith de Lacy:

Keith De Lacy was for fifteen years the Labor member for Cairns and Treasurer of Queensland from 1989 to 1996.

Well, well how surprising!

]]> By: jose carreras http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34518 jose carreras Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:16:03 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34518 Huey and Evan, that is the problem with nutters like Heffernan, on the rare ocassions they actually contribute something useful to national debate (rather than flights of fancy regarding High Court justices trawling for boys) pretty much everyone ignores anything they say because of their history of insanity. Huey and Evan, that is the problem with nutters like Heffernan, on the rare ocassions they actually contribute something useful to national debate (rather than flights of fancy regarding High Court justices trawling for boys) pretty much everyone ignores anything they say because of their history of insanity.

]]> By: Evan Beaver http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34508 Evan Beaver Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:28:25 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34508 Yes, I'm flabbergasted at the good sense coming out of Heffernan as well. Yes, I’m flabbergasted at the good sense coming out of Heffernan as well.

]]> By: Huey Benjamin http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34504 Huey Benjamin Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:16:18 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34504 Yes yes yes Cubbie Station very naughty....govs complicit etc....but hang on a minute....Big Bill actually making perfect sense and having an opinion on an issue that is righjt on the money!!!!! I am in shock...need to lie down.... Yes yes yes Cubbie Station very naughty….govs complicit etc….but hang on a minute….Big Bill actually making perfect sense and having an opinion on an issue that is righjt on the money!!!!! I am in shock…need to lie down….

]]> By: Gratton Wilson http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34503 Gratton Wilson Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:13:59 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34503 The present owners of Cubbie Station must be forced to complete a full site restoration program to restore the area to its original condition before being permitted to sell the land. All non-biodegradable material should be removed from the area at the present owners expense. The present owners of Cubbie Station must be forced to complete a full site restoration program to restore the area to its original condition before being permitted to sell the land. All non-biodegradable material should be removed from the area at the present owners expense.

]]> By: Mark Duffett http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34500 Mark Duffett Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:50:53 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34500 Interesting to see I'm not the only person to whom the idea of taking explosively direct action on Cubbie Station has occurred - and I'm certainly no greenie ratbag. But if I were... Interesting to see I’m not the only person to whom the idea of taking explosively direct action on Cubbie Station has occurred - and I’m certainly no greenie ratbag. But if I were…

]]> By: Pamela http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34498 Pamela Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:31:36 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/17/cubbie-station-out-to-con-the-taxpayer-says-heffernan/#comment-34498 If ever there was a case for a reality replay of that great epic "THE DAMBUSTERS" this is it. It is a national disgrace that successive governments have allowed Cubbie Station owners to get away with raping the environment. Dont buy it - reclaim it for our rivers sake. If ever there was a case for a reality replay of that great epic “THE DAMBUSTERS” this is it.
It is a national disgrace that successive governments have allowed Cubbie Station owners to get away with raping the environment.

Dont buy it - reclaim it for our rivers sake.

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