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	<title>Comments on: Wild Rivers get murkier and murkier</title>
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		<title>By: Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/12/wild-rivers-get-murkier-and-murkier/#comment-36808</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 03:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,

Could you give me a ring 0407182692 on this please?</description>
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<p>Could you give me a ring 0407182692 on this please?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom McLoughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/12/wild-rivers-get-murkier-and-murkier/#comment-34228</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom McLoughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have something for you on this. Drop me a line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have something for you on this. Drop me a line.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Squid</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/12/wild-rivers-get-murkier-and-murkier/#comment-34222</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact I think the figure that was given to balkanu to run the wild rivers consultation was $70,000.

the &quot;consultants&quot; had a wonderful time running round the cape spending taxpayers&#039; money, living the high life, while doing absolutely nothing.

has balkanu acquitted the funds? that would be nice.

has balkanu produced a report? that would be nice, even if it simply quotes &quot;indigenous people&quot; (noel pearson and his flunkies) and &quot;indigenous communities&quot; (Balkanu and Cape York Institute) as being 100% opposed to wild rivers.

wild rivers is nothing but a shonky political campaign run by noel pearson and his murdoch lickspittles.

As an aside, it was interesting to note some media this week about a wind farm proposal in which balkanu is involved.

one of the contenders in the project has publicly claimed that &quot;informal payments&quot; had been sought, and demanded a meeting with the premier about the irregularities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact I think the figure that was given to balkanu to run the wild rivers consultation was $70,000.</p>
<p>the &#8220;consultants&#8221; had a wonderful time running round the cape spending taxpayers&#8217; money, living the high life, while doing absolutely nothing.</p>
<p>has balkanu acquitted the funds? that would be nice.</p>
<p>has balkanu produced a report? that would be nice, even if it simply quotes &#8220;indigenous people&#8221; (noel pearson and his flunkies) and &#8220;indigenous communities&#8221; (Balkanu and Cape York Institute) as being 100% opposed to wild rivers.</p>
<p>wild rivers is nothing but a shonky political campaign run by noel pearson and his murdoch lickspittles.</p>
<p>As an aside, it was interesting to note some media this week about a wind farm proposal in which balkanu is involved.</p>
<p>one of the contenders in the project has publicly claimed that &#8220;informal payments&#8221; had been sought, and demanded a meeting with the premier about the irregularities.</p>
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		<title>By: Dermot McGuire</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/12/wild-rivers-get-murkier-and-murkier/#comment-34213</link>
		<dc:creator>Dermot McGuire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah legal advice  remember the question prperly framed  gives you the answer you want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah legal advice  remember the question prperly framed  gives you the answer you want.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince17</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/12/wild-rivers-get-murkier-and-murkier/#comment-34210</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m always fascinated by advocates throwing up the claim &quot;we&#039;ve got legal advice&quot; to support their position.   Ms Gusmerini tries and then demonstrates her inexperience in weak discourse in the linked paper on Austlii

e.g. Point B re clearing native vegetation preventing the use of grass, bark, stones etc... a clear misrepresentation, a HPA prevents broadscale clearing of the floodplain and only affects woody native vegetation - nothing there about grasses, stones and if removal of the bark doesn&#039;t kill the tree (as per traditional practices) it is not prevented.

It&#039;s disappointing that a minority is acting as if they speak for the majority and then can&#039;t get some basics of law correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m always fascinated by advocates throwing up the claim &#8220;we&#8217;ve got legal advice&#8221; to support their position.   Ms Gusmerini tries and then demonstrates her inexperience in weak discourse in the linked paper on Austlii</p>
<p>e.g. Point B re clearing native vegetation preventing the use of grass, bark, stones etc&#8230; a clear misrepresentation, a HPA prevents broadscale clearing of the floodplain and only affects woody native vegetation - nothing there about grasses, stones and if removal of the bark doesn&#8217;t kill the tree (as per traditional practices) it is not prevented.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s disappointing that a minority is acting as if they speak for the majority and then can&#8217;t get some basics of law correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Clara</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/12/wild-rivers-get-murkier-and-murkier/#comment-34169</link>
		<dc:creator>Clara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bernand is right, this just gets murkier and murkier, and Pearson&#039;s highly deceptive tactics and political campaign is becoming more apparent.

The article last week from the wilderness society was particularly illuminating - evidence that communities are being lied to about what wild rivers means. Lew Griffiths is kidding himself to portray that really this about consent - it is in fact about Pearson&#039;s power and control and deeply old-fashioned views about development (dig it up, chop it down, ship it off, make a buck).

It&#039;s about time the media began to seriously scrutinise Pearson&#039;s activities, including where he is getting all the cash to run this campaign. For too long has he had a open run in the press with accountability or challenge (barring an exceptional interview from Leigh Sales a few weeks back ...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bernand is right, this just gets murkier and murkier, and Pearson&#8217;s highly deceptive tactics and political campaign is becoming more apparent.</p>
<p>The article last week from the wilderness society was particularly illuminating - evidence that communities are being lied to about what wild rivers means. Lew Griffiths is kidding himself to portray that really this about consent - it is in fact about Pearson&#8217;s power and control and deeply old-fashioned views about development (dig it up, chop it down, ship it off, make a buck).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about time the media began to seriously scrutinise Pearson&#8217;s activities, including where he is getting all the cash to run this campaign. For too long has he had a open run in the press with accountability or challenge (barring an exceptional interview from Leigh Sales a few weeks back &#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/12/wild-rivers-get-murkier-and-murkier/#comment-34134</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 06:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know I lveo your work, Bernard, but a few points need to be made - Lew Griffiths (Pearson&#039;s right hand man) refers to the public consultation process on Wild Rivers as a &quot;sham&quot;. Surprising, given that it was Pearson&#039;s group who was paid tens of thousands of dollars by the Blight government to run... you guessed it, a public consultation on the Wild Rivers.

Simple fact is, Pearson wants to mine Cape York. Most Aboriginal people, however, don&#039;t. So Pearson and his mates are running a very aggressive, very dirty campaign against it. Problem is, just like Pearson is learning on the NT intervention, you can only prop up sh*t like this for so long before it collapses under the weight of its own detritus. 

Methinks the anti-Wild Rivers campaign is heading for troubled waters soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know I lveo your work, Bernard, but a few points need to be made - Lew Griffiths (Pearson&#8217;s right hand man) refers to the public consultation process on Wild Rivers as a &#8220;sham&#8221;. Surprising, given that it was Pearson&#8217;s group who was paid tens of thousands of dollars by the Blight government to run&#8230; you guessed it, a public consultation on the Wild Rivers.</p>
<p>Simple fact is, Pearson wants to mine Cape York. Most Aboriginal people, however, don&#8217;t. So Pearson and his mates are running a very aggressive, very dirty campaign against it. Problem is, just like Pearson is learning on the NT intervention, you can only prop up sh*t like this for so long before it collapses under the weight of its own detritus. </p>
<p>Methinks the anti-Wild Rivers campaign is heading for troubled waters soon.</p>
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