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	<title>Comments on: Time to start making sense, Galarrwuy</title>
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		<title>By: SBH</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/12/time-to-start-making-sense-galarrwuy/#comment-34366</link>
		<dc:creator>SBH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 03:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James I&#039;m not trying to insult you but before we go on do you want to reflect on whether or not the term &#039;indiggy&#039; might be dismissive and offensive?  And you might want to read a bit more of Graham&#039;s work before you provide the analysis you do.  Graham is certainly critical of Noel Pearson so the first bit is wrong and I don&#039;t know where he makes the blanket statement that whitefellas are the source of all evil.   He does criticise Jenny Macklin but as a minister isn&#039;t her performance open to scrutiny.  In my view it’s been terrible. 

Bob your a long term supporter of the intervention and Chris Graham is a long-term detractor.  I guess that sets up a nice polemic but your attack accuses him unfairly.  I was in the NT when the intervention was announced and when Yunupingu first opposed then backed it.  Disorienting? you bet.  I can only assume that deals were done to get Yunupingu&#039;s endorsement and I seem to remember promises of a) lots of cash and b) that Yolongu land would be relatively untouched which gave some kind of logical framework to what transpired.  I figured Yunupingu knew what he was doing in the circumstances but it still made a lot of Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal people deeply concerned.

It didn&#039;t alter my view that the intervention had the interests of Aborigines well down the list of priorities and that there were lots of very bad things about it but the merits of the intervention aren&#039;t really the issue here.

Once again we have a story from Chris Graham that goes to an important indigenous issue in a level of complexity and depth unseen in mainstream media.  Yunupingu&#039;s changes of direction on the intervention do beg some questions and it seems a reasonable subject for a story.

If you want to keep discussing this through &#039;comments&#039; ok but see if you can do it without descending into the name calling ad hominem stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James I&#8217;m not trying to insult you but before we go on do you want to reflect on whether or not the term &#8216;indiggy&#8217; might be dismissive and offensive?  And you might want to read a bit more of Graham&#8217;s work before you provide the analysis you do.  Graham is certainly critical of Noel Pearson so the first bit is wrong and I don&#8217;t know where he makes the blanket statement that whitefellas are the source of all evil.   He does criticise Jenny Macklin but as a minister isn&#8217;t her performance open to scrutiny.  In my view it’s been terrible. </p>
<p>Bob your a long term supporter of the intervention and Chris Graham is a long-term detractor.  I guess that sets up a nice polemic but your attack accuses him unfairly.  I was in the NT when the intervention was announced and when Yunupingu first opposed then backed it.  Disorienting? you bet.  I can only assume that deals were done to get Yunupingu&#8217;s endorsement and I seem to remember promises of a) lots of cash and b) that Yolongu land would be relatively untouched which gave some kind of logical framework to what transpired.  I figured Yunupingu knew what he was doing in the circumstances but it still made a lot of Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal people deeply concerned.</p>
<p>It didn&#8217;t alter my view that the intervention had the interests of Aborigines well down the list of priorities and that there were lots of very bad things about it but the merits of the intervention aren&#8217;t really the issue here.</p>
<p>Once again we have a story from Chris Graham that goes to an important indigenous issue in a level of complexity and depth unseen in mainstream media.  Yunupingu&#8217;s changes of direction on the intervention do beg some questions and it seems a reasonable subject for a story.</p>
<p>If you want to keep discussing this through &#8216;comments&#8217; ok but see if you can do it without descending into the name calling ad hominem stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Durnan</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/12/time-to-start-making-sense-galarrwuy/#comment-34196</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Durnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK I get it. First Dog is now doing &quot;Chris Graham&quot;. Perfect parody. Cartoonist nails paragon of moral rectitude in blackface, with portrait of the Black and White Minstrel getting all huffy with Black Superman. Pious logic heartlessly satirised. Take that Galarrwuy, and that! Get all sorry, you scoundrel, for the mighty spirit Graham has been offended, and expects obeisance and a humble apology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK I get it. First Dog is now doing &#8220;Chris Graham&#8221;. Perfect parody. Cartoonist nails paragon of moral rectitude in blackface, with portrait of the Black and White Minstrel getting all huffy with Black Superman. Pious logic heartlessly satirised. Take that Galarrwuy, and that! Get all sorry, you scoundrel, for the mighty spirit Graham has been offended, and expects obeisance and a humble apology.</p>
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		<title>By: James Bennett</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/12/time-to-start-making-sense-galarrwuy/#comment-34156</link>
		<dc:creator>James Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chris,

There&#039;s no interest in your article today.

I think you have forgotten the basic rule of indiggy reporting - Black fella GOOD, White Fella BAD.

I think you have dissoriented you supporters today with this slanderous ( deserved ?) attack an an important black leader.

Try to get back to form tomorrow with one of those riveting stories of how it&#039;s the Governments fault that some hero with centuries of proud traditional heritage has lost his blanket or can&#039;t find the toilet.

They are always winners with your fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chris,</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no interest in your article today.</p>
<p>I think you have forgotten the basic rule of indiggy reporting - Black fella GOOD, White Fella BAD.</p>
<p>I think you have dissoriented you supporters today with this slanderous ( deserved ?) attack an an important black leader.</p>
<p>Try to get back to form tomorrow with one of those riveting stories of how it&#8217;s the Governments fault that some hero with centuries of proud traditional heritage has lost his blanket or can&#8217;t find the toilet.</p>
<p>They are always winners with your fans.</p>
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