Comments on: Grech and Abetz: stacking up the statements http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/05/grech-and-abetz-stacking-up-the-statements/ now with extra source Sun, 12 Feb 2012 00:37:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Trevor http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/05/grech-and-abetz-stacking-up-the-statements/#comment-33428 Trevor Wed, 05 Aug 2009 06:30:39 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/05/grech-and-abetz-stacking-up-the-statements/#comment-33428 Eric and the Libs may view this as just a political problem they have to maneuver their way through while minimising damage. However; I believe the parliament as a whole needs to view this much more seriously. Treating the senate as a plaything will bring ridicule upon it and can undermine public confidence to a dangerous level. I am not suggesting Australians will take up arms over this. But the continued erosion of confidence in this institution may be bought home at a time when a subject of greater import is debated and the publics confidence in the deliberations is essential. This will be the time Eric Abetz and other senators including no doubt that gormless Fielding will be wringing their hands and saying they cant understand why Australians are not supporting the parliament. Wake up youse guys this is not a game. If Fielding does not support a privileges committee investigation he does not deserve to be in parliament and should explain what he does actually stand for. Eric and the Libs may view this as just a political problem they have to maneuver their way through while minimising damage. However; I believe the parliament as a whole needs to view this much more seriously. Treating the senate as a plaything will bring ridicule upon it and can undermine public confidence to a dangerous level.

I am not suggesting Australians will take up arms over this. But the continued erosion of confidence in this institution may be bought home at a time when a subject of greater import is debated and the publics confidence in the deliberations is essential. This will be the time Eric Abetz and other senators including no doubt that gormless Fielding will be wringing their hands and saying they cant understand why Australians are not supporting the parliament.

Wake up youse guys this is not a game. If Fielding does not support a privileges committee investigation he does not deserve to be in parliament and should explain what he does actually stand for.

]]> By: Liz45 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/05/grech-and-abetz-stacking-up-the-statements/#comment-33417 Liz45 Wed, 05 Aug 2009 06:22:42 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/05/grech-and-abetz-stacking-up-the-statements/#comment-33417 As I said on the other site. I think it's pretty disgusting the way the three main culprits have behaved. I read somewhere, that Turnbull was being advised by Bill Heffernan(Senator). Typical!If I was Turnbull, I'd sever that link for a start. Remember Heffernan and the Justice Michael Kirby disgrace? The role that Howard played was also disgusting - I don't think he even apologized, and Heffernan was slapped with a feather? Another little toad! Abetz will be allowed to vote, and the Opposition with Fielding will dream up some reason why they didn't/won't vote for an investigation - just like last time. I really hate liars! I know about the psychology of politics etc, but this is just pretty low. Turnbull is only sorry that he met Grech. It doesn't even occur to his arrogant and self opinionated brain, that he's given the Australian people via the Parliament, the 'middle finger'. I think that the 'leaders' in the Oppositon knew all about what went on. I'd like to watch Question Time again in both Houses, knowing what we know now, and I reckon there'd be some pretty smug looks on the Opposition benches in both Houses. I think that Abbott, Minchin and probably Heffernan, Barnaby Joyce?Hockey? Yep! Not worth a spit, any of them! As I said on the other site. I think it’s pretty disgusting the way the three main culprits have behaved. I read somewhere, that Turnbull was being advised by Bill Heffernan(Senator). Typical!If I was Turnbull, I’d sever that link for a start. Remember Heffernan and the Justice Michael Kirby disgrace? The role that Howard played was also disgusting - I don’t think he even apologized, and Heffernan was slapped with a feather? Another little toad!

Abetz will be allowed to vote, and the Opposition with Fielding will dream up some reason why they didn’t/won’t vote for an investigation - just like last time.
I really hate liars! I know about the psychology of politics etc, but this is just pretty low. Turnbull is only sorry that he met Grech. It doesn’t even occur to his arrogant and self opinionated brain, that he’s given the Australian people via the Parliament, the ‘middle finger’. I think that the ‘leaders’ in the Oppositon knew all about what went on. I’d like to watch Question Time again in both Houses, knowing what we know now, and I reckon there’d be some pretty smug looks on the Opposition benches in both Houses. I think that Abbott, Minchin and probably Heffernan, Barnaby Joyce?Hockey? Yep! Not worth a spit, any of them!

]]> By: Robert Hogg http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/05/grech-and-abetz-stacking-up-the-statements/#comment-33401 Robert Hogg Wed, 05 Aug 2009 05:17:37 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/05/grech-and-abetz-stacking-up-the-statements/#comment-33401 Aid and Abetz should be refused a vote in the Senate when he is being referred to the privileges committee. On past performance it's too much to expect him to abstain due to a conflict of interest. Turnbull should direct him to abstain. On the available information he has committed a most serious breech of misleading parliament - to say the least. Bob. Aid and Abetz should be refused a vote in the Senate when he is being referred to the privileges committee. On past performance it’s too much to expect him to abstain due to a conflict of interest. Turnbull should direct him to abstain.
On the available information he has committed a most serious breech of misleading parliament - to say the least.
Bob.

]]> By: Evan Beaver http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/05/grech-and-abetz-stacking-up-the-statements/#comment-33393 Evan Beaver Wed, 05 Aug 2009 04:55:15 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/05/grech-and-abetz-stacking-up-the-statements/#comment-33393 Surely Abetz has some sort of case to answer. I don't understand the process enough, but there is surely something dodgy in among all this? Surely Abetz has some sort of case to answer. I don’t understand the process enough, but there is surely something dodgy in among all this?

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