Comments on: Turnbull is dead

By: Jillian Blackall

Jillian Blackall — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:10:50 +0000

Raymond, I had pretty much given up on discussion with the anti-Liberal subscribers on this thread. To avoid any doubt, I pointed out that I cannot see any obligation for Malcolm to resign. I agree there is no need for further discussion.

By: RaymondChurch

RaymondChurch — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:28:10 +0000

Meski, resign as a front bench Shadow
Minister and get his sorry ars- to the back bench.
Depending on who has the majority on the select Committee of course he could well be found not guilty of anything. The Privledges Comm has wide powers and I understand in drastic cases can send a person appearing before it, to jail . Perhaps others more knowledgable on these points can clarify

By: meski

meski — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 05:28:00 +0000

Resign as what? If he were a minister, there would be a reason. But shadow ministers aren’t sworn in, so can’t really resign. Other than that, yes he did all you said. And it will hinder his chances of being elected.

By: RaymondChurch

RaymondChurch — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 00:37:30 +0000

There is no obligation for Malcom the Mad to resign says Jillian. Still waving the Liberal flag despite all the evidence against your hero. Despite the words of public service commissioner lynelle briggs, I guess in your world it is ok to lie, deceive, throw your informer (GG) to the wolves. His arrogance knows no bounds and if you are happy with that, I really can’t be bothered discussing this with you. I dont have any respect for people with an attitude such as yours. You share Turnbulls arrogance. Dismissed.

By: Jillian Blackall

Jillian Blackall — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:24:15 +0000

There is no obligation for Malcolm (or Senator Abetz) to resign. At worst, he made a serious error of judgement. The Opposition is expected to challenge the government. As I read somewhere but can’t remember where, it would take the left-leaning press in Australia to attack the Opposition for questioning the government.

By: Venise Alstergren

Venise Alstergren — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 04:13:11 +0000

JILLIAN BLACKALL: I can only go on available evidence. And the available evidence shows Malcolm Turnbull against a Union Jack with no hint of the Australian flag. Also the available evidence depicts a man who would do a Faustian
deal with the Devil in order to get power, and revenge against Kevin Rudd. Power and revenge, and greed. The three most potent words in the English language. Thanks to his behaviour, nothing will convince me otherwise.

By: MichaelT

MichaelT — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:23:08 +0000

Raymond, they are almost ALL deceiptful sleazebags if you haven’t noticed

(to note, i was overseas during this whole utegate thing, so i’ve only just come back to it)

Personally i think it’s all much ado about nothing. Malcolm was stupid and should just apologise to Kevin and Wayne and be done with it. I think his self inflicted wounds are enough as who’s going to believe him next time even if it is true?

I mean, leaked emails, come’on.. i can forge an email right now by just modifying the text of something someone just sent me, and then print it out. Stupid Malcolm, stupid.

Though of course if someone broke the law, then they should be prosecuted. But i don’t think anyone is saying that.

By: meski

meski — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:19:24 +0000

If you’re going to use ad hominem arguments, at least make them vaguely amusing.

By: RaymondChurch

RaymondChurch — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:09:43 +0000

Michael noone enjoys being really nasty but when there are deceptful sleezebags, telling porkies to save their own miserable hides, the people must have their say. The only honourable course for Turnbull and Abetz to take is resign. Then and only then will this episode be concluded.

By: MichaelT

MichaelT — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:48:30 +0000

Wow. This is a lot of hate on this board.

I thought you people would’ve lightened up since, well, you know, that last election that you actually WON.

By: Jillian Blackall

Jillian Blackall — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:57:44 +0000

Venise, I usually find your contributions interesting even if I don’t agree, but to suggest that Malcolm is no longer a republican is silly.

By: Venise Alstergren

Venise Alstergren — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 06:25:15 +0000

JILLIAN BLACKALL: “He’s in Parliament because he genuinely cares about Australia” Really? I would love to roll out a list-for your perusal-of all the reasons why Malcolm the Mad is incapable of caring about Oz. But it would be repetitious and far too long.
Instead I will present the evidence to show his moral imperatives are non-existent and his very soul is up for sale. All for self and power!
Try to look up some of his official utterances on television. The British flag forms his backdrop. Oh yes, it is the Australian flag but the only thing left is the Union Jack. I find it rather odd to see the once impassioned leader of the Republican Party being draped by the British flag. Would you not agree?

By: petethegeo

petethegeo — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 03:18:20 +0000

if you try and hit someone over the head with a stick, you’d better do it hard with something strong, Malcom tried and had his stick taken off him, he is now getting beaten by it daily, seems fair sport to me. At the very best he was stupid for not ensuring the email was real. Ole GG had issues, no-doubt, but he isn’t the true victim in this; it’s the Australian people (like me) who look to the opposition to provide a viable alternative government. I don’t care who the leader is, but guys…get your act together.

By: RaymondChurch

RaymondChurch — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:05:09 +0000

Perhaps Jillian the reason you will not enter into the discussion, as each hour goes by, Turnbull and Abetz position becomes more indefensible. The pair of them are in deep shite and if you found Turnbulls complete dismissal of the whole affair yesterday with his only regret, he had met GG, as acceptable, then you have a serious problem regarding reality. As for Abetz whimpering he was conned by Mr Gretch, if that bully expects anyone to believe that pathetic excuse, he is not a fit person to be in the Senate, which I doubt he is anyway. No Jillian this has a long way to run yet. Lets always remember Turnbull and Abetz fired the first shots and they missed badly. The return fire is merely sniper activity thus far.

By: davidk

davidk — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:03:29 +0000

What’s wrong with being antiLliberal? They measure success by length of tenure rather than achievements, they tear down anything they didn’t put up and they seek power for the sake of being in power and will ignore any convention or moral consideration to get it. You don’t have to go back to ‘75 to see that. Graham you are a really funny guy. Educated by the brothers? Jillian thank you for bothering to point out Richo’s quote. The idea that labor is born to rule after the Howard dark age is crazy. As for the mad monnk anyone who can defend the spanish inquisition as I heard him do is utterly unelectable even if he does have balls of steel.

By: Jillian Blackall

Jillian Blackall — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:16:14 +0000

Liz, I must admit I couldn’t really be bothered getting into long arguments with people who are obviously anti-Liberal. However, ‘whatever it takes’ was a Graham Richardson expression. Labor Right are much more ‘born to rule’ than the Liberal Party these days.

By: Liz45

Liz45 — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:33:38 +0000

Jillian Blackall
Posted Tuesday, 4 August 2009 at 8:03 pm | Permalink

“Malcolm is a great person. We Australians need him more than he needs us. He could buy a yacht and sail it around the world and forget about us if he wanted to and who could blame him?”

Well Jillian, why don’t you suggest it? Did you see his press conference tonight? Wow! If he wasn’t telling porkies I’ve lost ‘the gift’?(my secret?) For picking liars? The more I hear the ‘smellier’ it becomes. I think it was cooked up before the Senate ‘inquisition’ of 19th June, including the ‘tearful’ voice of GG. I think Abetz is in it too. I think they made a joke of the Senate. I think they used the Senate for their own grubby lustful ends, and the 3 of them should be sacked. Turnbull, Abetz and GG. Anyone else (there’s more involved - Abbott?Minchin? to start with?)who’s proved to be involved in this grotty little episode for Turnbull’s political career/Lib’s cheap attempts to get rid of Rudd & Swan should go too!

Would someone please remind me of the Lib’s belief in democratically elected govts? “Respecting the will of the Australian people”. Who said that? Howard I think?It’s sickening! The ‘born to rule’ ideology is about the only one they believe in, including the next bit - ‘whatever it takes’?

Enjoyed the article Guy, and some of the comments too. I had a good laugh, thank you!

By: Jillian Blackall

Jillian Blackall — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:24:50 +0000

Don’t worry Raymond. Malcolm has not gone away. He will be back on the 7.30 Report in due course. I’m not worried by your insults.

By: Jillian Blackall

Jillian Blackall — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:47:45 +0000

Raymond, you can think whatever you like. A lot of journalists would not be happy no matter what Malcolm did.

By: sean bedlam

sean bedlam — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:40:10 +0000

“He could buy a yacht and sail it around the world and forget about us if he wanted to and who could blame him?”

Poetry. Or pottery- I’m not sure.

By: Jillian Blackall

Jillian Blackall — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:03:16 +0000

Malcolm is a great person. We Australians need him more than he needs us. He could buy a yacht and sail it around the world and forget about us if he wanted to and who could blame him? He is in parliament because he genuinely cares about Australia. Leave him alone.

By: Harvey Tarvydas

Harvey Tarvydas — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:22:17 +0000

Dr Harvey M Tarvydas
I am with RaymondChurch, Colin Prasad joining the STANDING OVATION your work deserves. Well done!
My expertise has earned me the nick name ‘psychology, psychology, psychology is everything’.
This Utegate is a plot sporned in a psychopath detention centre.
Even psychopaths deserve compasion, believe it or not, and you have demonstrated sweet kindness showing such to Godwin.
But he, just as the other two (however very seriously less robust as you say and with much more pathos in his delusion) was cruising through the process with a knife up his sleeve looking for a juicy back in the name of self interest.

By: RaymondChurch

RaymondChurch — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:09:50 +0000

Obviously Perry you didnt see Australian Story last night. He will never be a plausible alternative to Kevin Rudd. What sort of man castes aside a person who has fed him and his party juicy Treasury tit bits for years, when he is no longer of use. Its a low blow, but entirely in character, regardless if GG stuffed up the would be coup de grace. The public have made up their mind about Turnbull, any bets on his rating next survey?

By: j-boy57

j-boy57 — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:59:49 +0000

perry the trouble is him being himself

By: Perry Gretton

Perry Gretton — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:56:03 +0000

Completely disagree about Turnbull. He may be impulsive but he was duped by Grech, as most Opposition leaders would have been in similar circumstances.

As for Abbott and others having a better chance at the next election, forget it. I’d sooner the Coalition stuck with Turnbull, stopped trying to kneecap him so they can reprise the Howard years, and let the man be himself. Then we might see a plausible alternative to Rudd.