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		<title>By: Kate Mannix</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/04/no-one-forced-grech-to-concoct-an-email/#comment-33372</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Mannix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 04:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one forced Grech to concoct an email, Bernard?  
How do you know?</description>
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How do you know?</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Keane</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/04/no-one-forced-grech-to-concoct-an-email/#comment-33332</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard Keane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 03:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kate. Give my regards to the Illuminati.</description>
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		<title>By: daveliberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>daveliberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 03:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &#039;Trevor&#039;, the obvious candidate to play Godwin Gretch would be Tony Martin, but he&#039;s already announced he&#039;s turning down the role:

http://thescrivenersfancy.com/scarcely-relevant/2009/07/01/same-name-fever.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to &#8216;Trevor&#8217;, the obvious candidate to play Godwin Gretch would be Tony Martin, but he&#8217;s already announced he&#8217;s turning down the role:</p>
<p><a href="http://thescrivenersfancy.com/scarcely-relevant/2009/07/01/same-name-fever.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://thescrivenersfancy.com/scarcely-relevant/2009/07/01/same-name-fever.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kate Mannix</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/04/no-one-forced-grech-to-concoct-an-email/#comment-33328</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Mannix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You &#039;think&#039;, Bernard? Where is Marion Maddox when you need her?

The Age reported recently that Godwin Grech attended the Catholic St Paul&#039;s College in North Altona.  Grech is a Maltese name.  Malta is a 100% Catholic country.  

That is not, of course, evidence of a conspiracy. 

But it suggests that Godwin Grech has a connection to the Catholic Church, which, to a journalist with access to resources, could be followed up. But then, it would be silly to imagine religion could play a part in national affairs/intrigues.  There&#039;s no Liberal branch stacking in Phillip Ruddock&#039;s electorate.  Connie Fierravanti-Wells did not thank the explicitly Opus Dei David Clarke for attending her maiden speech, and Tony Abbott doesn&#039;t even like George Pell. 

The ultra right is like a cult. If it is the case that Godwin has been involved with them, he would by now have been cut adrift.  People thrown out of cults can crash.  They can even end up in a psychiatric hospital.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You &#8216;think&#8217;, Bernard? Where is Marion Maddox when you need her?</p>
<p>The Age reported recently that Godwin Grech attended the Catholic St Paul&#8217;s College in North Altona.  Grech is a Maltese name.  Malta is a 100% Catholic country.  </p>
<p>That is not, of course, evidence of a conspiracy. </p>
<p>But it suggests that Godwin Grech has a connection to the Catholic Church, which, to a journalist with access to resources, could be followed up. But then, it would be silly to imagine religion could play a part in national affairs/intrigues.  There&#8217;s no Liberal branch stacking in Phillip Ruddock&#8217;s electorate.  Connie Fierravanti-Wells did not thank the explicitly Opus Dei David Clarke for attending her maiden speech, and Tony Abbott doesn&#8217;t even like George Pell. </p>
<p>The ultra right is like a cult. If it is the case that Godwin has been involved with them, he would by now have been cut adrift.  People thrown out of cults can crash.  They can even end up in a psychiatric hospital.</p>
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		<title>By: Syd Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syd Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well said DavidK.

It&#039;s a well known fact that no-one above kindergarten age ever conspires, especially near the centres of political power. Never happens. No point in discussing it. Move along!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well said DavidK.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a well known fact that no-one above kindergarten age ever conspires, especially near the centres of political power. Never happens. No point in discussing it. Move along!</p>
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		<title>By: davidk</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>far too many conspiracy theories</description>
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		<title>By: Syd Walker</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/04/no-one-forced-grech-to-concoct-an-email/#comment-33320</link>
		<dc:creator>Syd Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for an insightful article Bernard.

I gather GG hasn&#039;t been charged (from Tom&#039;s comment). True? Why not? Isn&#039;t forging an email - (on the surface) to frame a PM &amp; Treasurer - an offense in this country? Especially if you work at senior level in the public service? It seems odd to me. Where I live, people still get arrested for a gram of marijuana or being wobbly on their feet if of dark complexion. Canberra culture is a clearly much more &#039;liberal&#039; :-)

I was interested in Kate Mannix&#039;s comment. If GG is an agent of conniving right-wing Catholic conspirators, along with Tony Abbott, then we should certainly know about it. A Royal Commission might be in order.

But is it true? Is there evidence GG is a Catholic at all? Do we know anything about this man or his connections? Did he really just live for his work, taking breaks only for occasional leaks?

From a distance the whole show looks very much like a deliberate set up, with Malcolm Turnbull as the intended victim. Turnbull may well have acted too fast. He accepts that now, of course. But the entire hyped-up atmosphere of Parliament when it&#039;s sitting is designed so blood-sports run fast and furious. If Turnbull (or other opposition leaders) don&#039;t react quickly and pursue leads with vigor, they get accused of wimping out, lacking &#039;edge&#039; etc.

I also wonder: could someone have put Godwin up to this? If so, who? Whoever it was, they certainly seem (to me) well-connected in the Canberra press corp, who to this day are mainly spinning the story as a disaster for Turnbull.

The saga has been a disaster for Turnbull in a sense. It&#039;s a disaster that so many people in the media keep reporting it as a disaster; it&#039;s a problem so many in the general public consider it a disaster. 

But why is that? The Masters of Spin seem to me to have played a significant role. An example was provided Malcolm Farr and Chris Ulmann on Australian Story. Their commentaries were overlaid to help the viewing public decide what to think and they did not seem unbiased to me. and came across as applying a rather blatant anti-Turnbull spin.

The attempted destabilization of Malcolm Turnbull reminds me of other cases in recent Australian history. It makes me wonder whether Malcolm is not being sufficiently compliant with powerful vested interests. 

Kate Mannix appears to believe those interests are right-wing Vatican types. Is the Holy Grail involved? How about Tim Fischer? I think this is called a &#039;conspiracy theory&#039;.

Anything&#039;s possible, I suppose, but I&#039;d like to see evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for an insightful article Bernard.</p>
<p>I gather GG hasn&#8217;t been charged (from Tom&#8217;s comment). True? Why not? Isn&#8217;t forging an email - (on the surface) to frame a PM &amp; Treasurer - an offense in this country? Especially if you work at senior level in the public service? It seems odd to me. Where I live, people still get arrested for a gram of marijuana or being wobbly on their feet if of dark complexion. Canberra culture is a clearly much more &#8216;liberal&#8217; <img src='http://www.crikey.com.au/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I was interested in Kate Mannix&#8217;s comment. If GG is an agent of conniving right-wing Catholic conspirators, along with Tony Abbott, then we should certainly know about it. A Royal Commission might be in order.</p>
<p>But is it true? Is there evidence GG is a Catholic at all? Do we know anything about this man or his connections? Did he really just live for his work, taking breaks only for occasional leaks?</p>
<p>From a distance the whole show looks very much like a deliberate set up, with Malcolm Turnbull as the intended victim. Turnbull may well have acted too fast. He accepts that now, of course. But the entire hyped-up atmosphere of Parliament when it&#8217;s sitting is designed so blood-sports run fast and furious. If Turnbull (or other opposition leaders) don&#8217;t react quickly and pursue leads with vigor, they get accused of wimping out, lacking &#8216;edge&#8217; etc.</p>
<p>I also wonder: could someone have put Godwin up to this? If so, who? Whoever it was, they certainly seem (to me) well-connected in the Canberra press corp, who to this day are mainly spinning the story as a disaster for Turnbull.</p>
<p>The saga has been a disaster for Turnbull in a sense. It&#8217;s a disaster that so many people in the media keep reporting it as a disaster; it&#8217;s a problem so many in the general public consider it a disaster. </p>
<p>But why is that? The Masters of Spin seem to me to have played a significant role. An example was provided Malcolm Farr and Chris Ulmann on Australian Story. Their commentaries were overlaid to help the viewing public decide what to think and they did not seem unbiased to me. and came across as applying a rather blatant anti-Turnbull spin.</p>
<p>The attempted destabilization of Malcolm Turnbull reminds me of other cases in recent Australian history. It makes me wonder whether Malcolm is not being sufficiently compliant with powerful vested interests. </p>
<p>Kate Mannix appears to believe those interests are right-wing Vatican types. Is the Holy Grail involved? How about Tim Fischer? I think this is called a &#8216;conspiracy theory&#8217;.</p>
<p>Anything&#8217;s possible, I suppose, but I&#8217;d like to see evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: F1R3ST0RM</title>
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		<dc:creator>F1R3ST0RM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re-read the post from Tom McLoughlin,  in the order of the paragraphs 1, 3 ,5... then 2, 4, 6 etc :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re-read the post from Tom McLoughlin,  in the order of the paragraphs 1, 3 ,5&#8230; then 2, 4, 6 etc <img src='http://www.crikey.com.au/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Keane</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/04/no-one-forced-grech-to-concoct-an-email/#comment-33292</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard Keane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kate Mannix I think the only church GG has regularly attended is Canberra Hospital.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate Mannix I think the only church GG has regularly attended is Canberra Hospital.</p>
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		<title>By: RaymondChurch</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/04/no-one-forced-grech-to-concoct-an-email/#comment-33291</link>
		<dc:creator>RaymondChurch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 11:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After seeing and hearing that &#039;EVIL BASTARD&#039; Turnbull again tonight publically, with a smirk and sneer on his coniving lieing deceiving features, pronounce,  his only regret in this whole affair is that he regrets ever meeting and knowing Mr Grech. This is the sh-thead who used and bullied someone who he thought had ammunition to bring down a Prime Minister, a Treasurer and God help us a Government. When he realised he himself was in the dunger, he slimes his way towards an exit, which is not open. The PM will see to that. he will be up on a contempt charge and there is no belly sliding out of that. The Government&#039;s majority will see to that. if Turnbull had any sense of intelligence and survival as a person, with some semblance of a reputation left, he would have his resignation written and in at sparrow fart tomorrow. Unfortunately for an egotistical, I am born to be No 1, unrational smart ars- he will not. 
He will regret that eventually. In a small room, in a Canberra hospital, an odd looking bespactacled, thin, patient will have a wry smile and take consolation out of a collapsed life, knowing the wanker who used him then caste him aside , to try and protect his own rodent skin, will get his come uppance. That day will come.  A very shrewd politician who saw off another distasteful rodent, will never forget what Turnbull tried to do to his career and his life. I wouldnt want to be his enemy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After seeing and hearing that &#8216;EVIL BASTARD&#8217; Turnbull again tonight publically, with a smirk and sneer on his coniving lieing deceiving features, pronounce,  his only regret in this whole affair is that he regrets ever meeting and knowing Mr Grech. This is the sh-thead who used and bullied someone who he thought had ammunition to bring down a Prime Minister, a Treasurer and God help us a Government. When he realised he himself was in the dunger, he slimes his way towards an exit, which is not open. The PM will see to that. he will be up on a contempt charge and there is no belly sliding out of that. The Government&#8217;s majority will see to that. if Turnbull had any sense of intelligence and survival as a person, with some semblance of a reputation left, he would have his resignation written and in at sparrow fart tomorrow. Unfortunately for an egotistical, I am born to be No 1, unrational smart ars- he will not.<br />
He will regret that eventually. In a small room, in a Canberra hospital, an odd looking bespactacled, thin, patient will have a wry smile and take consolation out of a collapsed life, knowing the wanker who used him then caste him aside , to try and protect his own rodent skin, will get his come uppance. That day will come.  A very shrewd politician who saw off another distasteful rodent, will never forget what Turnbull tried to do to his career and his life. I wouldnt want to be his enemy.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Mannix</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/04/no-one-forced-grech-to-concoct-an-email/#comment-33290</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Mannix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 11:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Christian Right - whether Catholic or evangelical - subscribe to the (originally Catholic) notion that &#039;error has no rights&#039;.  That is, if one is not of the faithful, one is in error; therefore, one HAS no rights.  Abetz has apparently colluded in an attempt to mislead the Australian people. Within this belief framework described,  such an act is justified, because Turnbull - like the remainder of the nation that does not adhere to ultra conservative Christianity - may suffer &#039;false witness&#039;. This is due to the assumption that such false witness is for the purpose of bringing the people to &#039;right belief&#039;.  

The Catholic ultra right is entirely looney.  Google around and you will find Catholic appeals to reinstate the French Monarchy.  Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite -
that&#039;s when the rot set in!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Christian Right - whether Catholic or evangelical - subscribe to the (originally Catholic) notion that &#8216;error has no rights&#8217;.  That is, if one is not of the faithful, one is in error; therefore, one HAS no rights.  Abetz has apparently colluded in an attempt to mislead the Australian people. Within this belief framework described,  such an act is justified, because Turnbull - like the remainder of the nation that does not adhere to ultra conservative Christianity - may suffer &#8216;false witness&#8217;. This is due to the assumption that such false witness is for the purpose of bringing the people to &#8216;right belief&#8217;.  </p>
<p>The Catholic ultra right is entirely looney.  Google around and you will find Catholic appeals to reinstate the French Monarchy.  Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite -<br />
that&#8217;s when the rot set in!</p>
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		<title>By: Gail Tuft</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/04/no-one-forced-grech-to-concoct-an-email/#comment-33286</link>
		<dc:creator>Gail Tuft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is Abetz getting off so lightly? How does he reconcile his behaviour in this case with his loudly proclaimed Christian conscience. He&#039;s quick enough to decide and voice loudly what he thinks is &quot;moral&quot; for other people. He could have walked away from this but chose to be an active participant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is Abetz getting off so lightly? How does he reconcile his behaviour in this case with his loudly proclaimed Christian conscience. He&#8217;s quick enough to decide and voice loudly what he thinks is &#8220;moral&#8221; for other people. He could have walked away from this but chose to be an active participant.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Mannix</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/04/no-one-forced-grech-to-concoct-an-email/#comment-33281</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Mannix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bernard, ask yourself the following question.  
If Malcolm falls over, who is the beneficiary?
Tony Abbott.  
*********(processing time)

Why would Godwin, a man who appears, for all the world, to be a person of a grandiose rectitude, &#039;concoct&#039; an email lie?

For money?

Or for the Faith?

There could be an election next year, Godwin, we must dislodge that lefty convert and position the one man who can be a leader of real conviction.  Godwin:  it must be done now.  Gain Turnbull&#039;s confidence.  Leak him material. When the time is right, you strike. Turnbull&#039;s famous lack of judgement will cause him to  make outrageous allegations in the Parliament. He&#039;ll be lost.  He&#039;ll have no alternative but to resign.
Then, Godwin, THEN,  a Real Catholic, a man of Faith, will be our Hope.  He won&#039;t win the next election.  But he&#039;ll win the election after, Godwin, and YOU are the one who can make that happen. You will be the contemporary John the Baptist.  
Only you, Godwin, only you can make Tony Abbot Prime Minister of Australia.
Abbott in Canberra, Clarke and Smith in NSW.  
Godwin, we&#039;ll show that goddamned Europe what it is to be a Catholic nation, we&#039;ll piss all over them.  
And the beauty of it all, Godwin, is that should it ever fall apart, everyone - especially the press - will blame the Liberals - Treasury - Wayne Swan!! Everyone but you, Godwin.  
Help us, Godwin Grech.  You&#039;re our Only Hope.

BERNARD. Have you checked whether there is any connection between Tony Abbott and Godwin Grech? Do you know which church each man attends? 

Might be worth your while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bernard, ask yourself the following question.<br />
If Malcolm falls over, who is the beneficiary?<br />
Tony Abbott.<br />
*********(processing time)</p>
<p>Why would Godwin, a man who appears, for all the world, to be a person of a grandiose rectitude, &#8216;concoct&#8217; an email lie?</p>
<p>For money?</p>
<p>Or for the Faith?</p>
<p>There could be an election next year, Godwin, we must dislodge that lefty convert and position the one man who can be a leader of real conviction.  Godwin:  it must be done now.  Gain Turnbull&#8217;s confidence.  Leak him material. When the time is right, you strike. Turnbull&#8217;s famous lack of judgement will cause him to  make outrageous allegations in the Parliament. He&#8217;ll be lost.  He&#8217;ll have no alternative but to resign.<br />
Then, Godwin, THEN,  a Real Catholic, a man of Faith, will be our Hope.  He won&#8217;t win the next election.  But he&#8217;ll win the election after, Godwin, and YOU are the one who can make that happen. You will be the contemporary John the Baptist.<br />
Only you, Godwin, only you can make Tony Abbot Prime Minister of Australia.<br />
Abbott in Canberra, Clarke and Smith in NSW.<br />
Godwin, we&#8217;ll show that goddamned Europe what it is to be a Catholic nation, we&#8217;ll piss all over them.<br />
And the beauty of it all, Godwin, is that should it ever fall apart, everyone - especially the press - will blame the Liberals - Treasury - Wayne Swan!! Everyone but you, Godwin.<br />
Help us, Godwin Grech.  You&#8217;re our Only Hope.</p>
<p>BERNARD. Have you checked whether there is any connection between Tony Abbott and Godwin Grech? Do you know which church each man attends? </p>
<p>Might be worth your while.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom McLoughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom McLoughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly GG confirming the text was his construction as &#039;a file note&#039; is probative, finally, of what actually happened.

But then a rare report today that Treasury IT broke down 3 times in February 09 is also quite worrying too. Possibly the Auditor&#039;s finding.

And GG continues to not be charged by the AFP - why is it so?


The Charlton figure is absolutely absent and silent from any media scrutiny. Not a whisper really. Convenient for the ALP that.

And then over arching is the timing of Costello, or for Treasury officials, perhaps we should say HMV, increasingly shaky postures over this timeframe.

And given the Howard Machine&#039;s record of selective corporate welfare, one suspects a sense of projection in the Coalition in accusing the federal ALP of corporate bias. The great irony is that the ALP are very very biased to corporate mates on any number of sleazy areas of policy. But not proven in this case.

Another great irony is Chris Bowen saying Malcolm Turnbull has no credibility. Oh please, Felix my sides are aching.

Lastly, Turnbull&#039;s ambition clearly clouded his judgement. Like Brogden self destructing after running Bob Carr&#039;s polling into the ground, the thrill of Costello bailing out surely made him drunk on natural opiates.

If only he had raised questions as an effective Opposition, rather than seek to pre empt the democratic choice against Howard, which he effectively did by calling for the PM to resign on prima facie evidence. That&#039;s 20 handy polling points gone, all gone.

On the other hand seeing Rudd squeal in Parliament early on was fun. Watching him white as a ghost hemming and harring on that first Friday night abc tv news update was choice too. 

Kevin &#039;science&#039; Rudd, as if.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly GG confirming the text was his construction as &#8216;a file note&#8217; is probative, finally, of what actually happened.</p>
<p>But then a rare report today that Treasury IT broke down 3 times in February 09 is also quite worrying too. Possibly the Auditor&#8217;s finding.</p>
<p>And GG continues to not be charged by the AFP - why is it so?</p>
<p>The Charlton figure is absolutely absent and silent from any media scrutiny. Not a whisper really. Convenient for the ALP that.</p>
<p>And then over arching is the timing of Costello, or for Treasury officials, perhaps we should say HMV, increasingly shaky postures over this timeframe.</p>
<p>And given the Howard Machine&#8217;s record of selective corporate welfare, one suspects a sense of projection in the Coalition in accusing the federal ALP of corporate bias. The great irony is that the ALP are very very biased to corporate mates on any number of sleazy areas of policy. But not proven in this case.</p>
<p>Another great irony is Chris Bowen saying Malcolm Turnbull has no credibility. Oh please, Felix my sides are aching.</p>
<p>Lastly, Turnbull&#8217;s ambition clearly clouded his judgement. Like Brogden self destructing after running Bob Carr&#8217;s polling into the ground, the thrill of Costello bailing out surely made him drunk on natural opiates.</p>
<p>If only he had raised questions as an effective Opposition, rather than seek to pre empt the democratic choice against Howard, which he effectively did by calling for the PM to resign on prima facie evidence. That&#8217;s 20 handy polling points gone, all gone.</p>
<p>On the other hand seeing Rudd squeal in Parliament early on was fun. Watching him white as a ghost hemming and harring on that first Friday night abc tv news update was choice too. </p>
<p>Kevin &#8216;science&#8217; Rudd, as if.</p>
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		<title>By: Harvey Tarvydas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harvey Tarvydas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr Harvey M Tarvydas

Well done BK!
I am also writting a book or essay whatever &#039;The Toxic Public Servant&#039; describing the crimes they have perpetrated against me which leave this lot for dead.
My expertise has earned me the nick name ‘psychology, psychology, psychology is everything’.
This Utegate is a plot sporned in a psychopath detention centre.
Even psychopaths deserve compasion, believe it or not, and you have also demonstrated sweet kindness showing such to Godwin.
But he, just as the other two (however very seriously less robust and with profound pathos in his delusion) was cruising through the process with a knife up his sleeve looking for a juicy back in the name of self interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Harvey M Tarvydas</p>
<p>Well done BK!<br />
I am also writting a book or essay whatever &#8216;The Toxic Public Servant&#8217; describing the crimes they have perpetrated against me which leave this lot for dead.<br />
My expertise has earned me the nick name ‘psychology, psychology, psychology is everything’.<br />
This Utegate is a plot sporned in a psychopath detention centre.<br />
Even psychopaths deserve compasion, believe it or not, and you have also demonstrated sweet kindness showing such to Godwin.<br />
But he, just as the other two (however very seriously less robust and with profound pathos in his delusion) was cruising through the process with a knife up his sleeve looking for a juicy back in the name of self interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AR - Yes that could get around some tricky legal issues.  I am leaning towards Eric Bana as Eric Abetz but cant cast Malcolm yet.  Pity about Heath ledger the dark knight would have fitted well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AR - Yes that could get around some tricky legal issues.  I am leaning towards Eric Bana as Eric Abetz but cant cast Malcolm yet.  Pity about Heath ledger the dark knight would have fitted well.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/04/no-one-forced-grech-to-concoct-an-email/#comment-33265</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m disappointed both sides of politics have ignored the wretched plight of Godwin Grech. When MPs such as Jeff Kennett, John Brogden, Geoff Gallop etc suffered mental health issues the tributes flowed. Condolences, get well messages and acknowledgements of hard work came from all corners of the political spectrum. Why Godwin Grech is any different I&#039;ve no idea. I hope he recovers well and accorded opportunities offered others in his situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m disappointed both sides of politics have ignored the wretched plight of Godwin Grech. When MPs such as Jeff Kennett, John Brogden, Geoff Gallop etc suffered mental health issues the tributes flowed. Condolences, get well messages and acknowledgements of hard work came from all corners of the political spectrum. Why Godwin Grech is any different I&#8217;ve no idea. I hope he recovers well and accorded opportunities offered others in his situation.</p>
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		<title>By: AR</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/04/no-one-forced-grech-to-concoct-an-email/#comment-33262</link>
		<dc:creator>AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trevor - re the movie, George &amp; Weedon Grossmith have already written the screenplay. No fees, their being dead. Charles Pooter is the perfect analogy to avoid slander, despite his (comparative) accuity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trevor - re the movie, George &amp; Weedon Grossmith have already written the screenplay. No fees, their being dead. Charles Pooter is the perfect analogy to avoid slander, despite his (comparative) accuity.</p>
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		<title>By: j-boy57</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/04/no-one-forced-grech-to-concoct-an-email/#comment-33260</link>
		<dc:creator>j-boy57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you can see why we&#039;re not a republic
ita always about malcolm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can see why we&#8217;re not a republic<br />
ita always about malcolm</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/04/no-one-forced-grech-to-concoct-an-email/#comment-33258</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IRFAN YUSUF: You write for New Matilda, I think?
I agree with you, Crikey has been extraordinarily fortunate to secure such a fine Canberra observer as BK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IRFAN YUSUF: You write for New Matilda, I think?<br />
I agree with you, Crikey has been extraordinarily fortunate to secure such a fine Canberra observer as BK.</p>
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		<title>By: AR</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/04/no-one-forced-grech-to-concoct-an-email/#comment-33256</link>
		<dc:creator>AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GG=Walter Mitty, without the fun side of Billy Liar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GG=Walter Mitty, without the fun side of Billy Liar.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael James</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/04/no-one-forced-grech-to-concoct-an-email/#comment-33252</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bernard (5.15pm), I am sure we can all have some sympathy for Grech but at the same time it seems clear that he was destabilized by his own machinations which appear to have backfired, probably under the bullying by MT and Abetz.

Frank Campbell (4.19pm), not sure who was slagging you off but you would not have been the only one with that interpretation.  Here is my relevant post:
#7….Michael James Posted Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 5:41 pm &#124; 
[....]How long do we have to wait for the AFP to put us out of our misery? Because assuredly they must know who wrote that email; or at the very least which computer/email account it came from [......]Here is another bit of speculation: if Godwin Grech really was innocent why would he have the need for a hospital bed? If someone completely unconnected to himself originated that email why would its discovery cause such consternation? Would it not have been proof of his innocence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bernard (5.15pm), I am sure we can all have some sympathy for Grech but at the same time it seems clear that he was destabilized by his own machinations which appear to have backfired, probably under the bullying by MT and Abetz.</p>
<p>Frank Campbell (4.19pm), not sure who was slagging you off but you would not have been the only one with that interpretation.  Here is my relevant post:<br />
#7….Michael James Posted Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 5:41 pm |<br />
[&#8230;.]How long do we have to wait for the AFP to put us out of our misery? Because assuredly they must know who wrote that email; or at the very least which computer/email account it came from [&#8230;&#8230;]Here is another bit of speculation: if Godwin Grech really was innocent why would he have the need for a hospital bed? If someone completely unconnected to himself originated that email why would its discovery cause such consternation? Would it not have been proof of his innocence?</p>
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		<title>By: RaymondChurch</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/04/no-one-forced-grech-to-concoct-an-email/#comment-33246</link>
		<dc:creator>RaymondChurch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing bothers me, well several do but this is currently attracting my attention. If Abetz knew the questions because, according to Turnbull, GG gave them to both, Abetz used the questions and knew the answers. Something stinks in that lot and why did Abetz hurredly declare Parliamentary Priveledge when pressured in the Senate to answer questions on the Committee hearing and Abetz prior knowledge of the email. Greens boss Sen Bob Brown smelt a rat and Abetz stopped his questions in their tracks by declaring priveledge. Abetz knows more than he and Turnbull are letting on. As the Libs have been quite happy to receive information supplied by Mr Gretch since the days of the former Coalition Govt and continued receiving through the current Labor Govt, and now have thrown the hapless pathetic GG to fend for himself, what lays in wait as days go by. A scorned Gretch may have other revelations he will happily use to gain revenge on the Liberals who now no longer require his services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing bothers me, well several do but this is currently attracting my attention. If Abetz knew the questions because, according to Turnbull, GG gave them to both, Abetz used the questions and knew the answers. Something stinks in that lot and why did Abetz hurredly declare Parliamentary Priveledge when pressured in the Senate to answer questions on the Committee hearing and Abetz prior knowledge of the email. Greens boss Sen Bob Brown smelt a rat and Abetz stopped his questions in their tracks by declaring priveledge. Abetz knows more than he and Turnbull are letting on. As the Libs have been quite happy to receive information supplied by Mr Gretch since the days of the former Coalition Govt and continued receiving through the current Labor Govt, and now have thrown the hapless pathetic GG to fend for himself, what lays in wait as days go by. A scorned Gretch may have other revelations he will happily use to gain revenge on the Liberals who now no longer require his services.</p>
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		<title>By: Irfan Yusuf</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/04/no-one-forced-grech-to-concoct-an-email/#comment-33245</link>
		<dc:creator>Irfan Yusuf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crikey has done well to secure a Canberra correspondent with a sound working knowledge and years of experience in the Cth Public Service. A great piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crikey has done well to secure a Canberra correspondent with a sound working knowledge and years of experience in the Cth Public Service. A great piece.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Keane</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/04/no-one-forced-grech-to-concoct-an-email/#comment-33242</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard Keane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silverbilby there is no evidence that Grech is &quot;hiding in a mental institution&quot;.  It&#039;s clear that the bloke has mental health issues and he is seeking treatment for them.  He should not be criticised for doing so, whatever we may think of his behaviour. His two statements released today suggest, if anything, that he does indeed need help.  Hopefully he&#039;ll recover as much of his health as he can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silverbilby there is no evidence that Grech is &#8220;hiding in a mental institution&#8221;.  It&#8217;s clear that the bloke has mental health issues and he is seeking treatment for them.  He should not be criticised for doing so, whatever we may think of his behaviour. His two statements released today suggest, if anything, that he does indeed need help.  Hopefully he&#8217;ll recover as much of his health as he can.</p>
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