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	<title>Comments on: Abbott to Rudd: Don&#8217;t try to spin the Pope</title>
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		<title>By: cnqaus</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/07/abbott-to-rudd-dont-try-to-spin-the-pope-he-orbits-in-a-different-sphere/#comment-30589</link>
		<dc:creator>cnqaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 10:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being what I&#039;d consider an agnostic Catholic, it&#039;s always entertaining and somewhat enriching to see Tony the righteous throw stones. Maybe he should stand before God&#039;s right-hand man and explain himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being what I&#8217;d consider an agnostic Catholic, it&#8217;s always entertaining and somewhat enriching to see Tony the righteous throw stones. Maybe he should stand before God&#8217;s right-hand man and explain himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Presland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Presland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 07:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alison, that is so funny. When I get the mental picture it&#039;s great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alison, that is so funny. When I get the mental picture it&#8217;s great.</p>
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		<title>By: David1</title>
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		<dc:creator>David1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems you have a persecution complex today Joel, perhaps a quick call to Rev Abbott will ease the pain. I suspect a good deal of tongue in cheek in this article. My reading of the Q and A was Antonio acting all serious and tut tut, please not take the Pope in jest. Thats the trouble with the monk, life is far too serious. But I certainly don&#039;t read Crikey having a go at the Libs, stone the crows, never let it be so. Words would be said over drinks at the Vatican local should such a lack of taste be shown towards one so holy as a contender for the Liberal leadership, Tony The Devout. I suspect Benedict XVI will enjoy a chin wag with our Kevvie, be a hoot, if Bennie is in to hooting. You know what they say, once a catholic always a catholic, its like riding a 
bike, one never forgets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems you have a persecution complex today Joel, perhaps a quick call to Rev Abbott will ease the pain. I suspect a good deal of tongue in cheek in this article. My reading of the Q and A was Antonio acting all serious and tut tut, please not take the Pope in jest. Thats the trouble with the monk, life is far too serious. But I certainly don&#8217;t read Crikey having a go at the Libs, stone the crows, never let it be so. Words would be said over drinks at the Vatican local should such a lack of taste be shown towards one so holy as a contender for the Liberal leadership, Tony The Devout. I suspect Benedict XVI will enjoy a chin wag with our Kevvie, be a hoot, if Bennie is in to hooting. You know what they say, once a catholic always a catholic, its like riding a<br />
bike, one never forgets.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/07/abbott-to-rudd-dont-try-to-spin-the-pope-he-orbits-in-a-different-sphere/#comment-30551</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abbott continually puts himself up for ridicule.  Far better for Rudd to lobby the Pope as opposed to tobacco companies Mr Abbott.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abbott continually puts himself up for ridicule.  Far better for Rudd to lobby the Pope as opposed to tobacco companies Mr Abbott.</p>
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		<title>By: David1</title>
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		<dc:creator>David1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Evan Beaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan Beaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel, my goodness you&#039;re a sensitive soul. Paranoid perhaps? How on earth did you perceive this to be a swipe at the coalition? If anyone swiped it would have been Abbott swiping at himself.

I thought it was an interesting article. Abbott was asked some reasonable questions in response to a previous comment he made. He answered them, fairly truthfully I thought, and with less of his own political point scoring than he could have. 

It does show the ludicrous notion of the separation of church and state. When church issues become of interest to the electorate, the distinction gets muddy very quickly indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel, my goodness you&#8217;re a sensitive soul. Paranoid perhaps? How on earth did you perceive this to be a swipe at the coalition? If anyone swiped it would have been Abbott swiping at himself.</p>
<p>I thought it was an interesting article. Abbott was asked some reasonable questions in response to a previous comment he made. He answered them, fairly truthfully I thought, and with less of his own political point scoring than he could have. </p>
<p>It does show the ludicrous notion of the separation of church and state. When church issues become of interest to the electorate, the distinction gets muddy very quickly indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Benson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this deserve a lead story?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this deserve a lead story?</p>
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		<title>By: Edward James</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/07/abbott-to-rudd-dont-try-to-spin-the-pope-he-orbits-in-a-different-sphere/#comment-30513</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tony how do you explain what catholic  Bishop  Pell dose in the main stream press ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tony how do you explain what catholic  Bishop  Pell dose in the main stream press ?</p>
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		<title>By: Alison White</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/07/abbott-to-rudd-dont-try-to-spin-the-pope-he-orbits-in-a-different-sphere/#comment-30505</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite the quick correction, I still want to see a First Dog on the Moon cartoon about Mary McKillop being shot out of a cannon!  Please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite the quick correction, I still want to see a First Dog on the Moon cartoon about Mary McKillop being shot out of a cannon!  Please?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Duffett</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/07/abbott-to-rudd-dont-try-to-spin-the-pope-he-orbits-in-a-different-sphere/#comment-30499</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Duffett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and a spectacularly quick correction; well done.  Gotta love online media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and a spectacularly quick correction; well done.  Gotta love online media.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel B1</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/07/abbott-to-rudd-dont-try-to-spin-the-pope-he-orbits-in-a-different-sphere/#comment-30498</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel B1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, can you &quot;reporters&quot; at Crikey just be honest for a least a few minutes?

I really fail to understand the need to include a swipe at the coalition in every story.

At the moment the running joke/bet in our household is at what point will BK put in the (inevitable) para &quot;But the Coalition are far worse, they...&quot;

The outside bet is that he won&#039;t include such a para, I&#039;ve got 1 gives you 80 on that. The favourite bet is which exact paragraph, I&#039;ve got 1 gives you 2 on para 12.

So far I&#039;m $42 up on my wife,  although she&#039;s far smarter than me I know idiots when I see them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, can you &#8220;reporters&#8221; at Crikey just be honest for a least a few minutes?</p>
<p>I really fail to understand the need to include a swipe at the coalition in every story.</p>
<p>At the moment the running joke/bet in our household is at what point will BK put in the (inevitable) para &#8220;But the Coalition are far worse, they&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The outside bet is that he won&#8217;t include such a para, I&#8217;ve got 1 gives you 80 on that. The favourite bet is which exact paragraph, I&#8217;ve got 1 gives you 2 on para 12.</p>
<p>So far I&#8217;m $42 up on my wife,  although she&#8217;s far smarter than me I know idiots when I see them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Duffett</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/07/abbott-to-rudd-dont-try-to-spin-the-pope-he-orbits-in-a-different-sphere/#comment-30495</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Duffett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear, Crikey betrays its ignorance of matters religious rather spectacularly here.  It&#039;s not a good look when you clearly don&#039;t know how to spell one of the main subjects of your article.  Or maybe you were just really under the gun when you wrote it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear, Crikey betrays its ignorance of matters religious rather spectacularly here.  It&#8217;s not a good look when you clearly don&#8217;t know how to spell one of the main subjects of your article.  Or maybe you were just really under the gun when you wrote it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ungulate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ungulate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think while Kevin&#039;s got His Holiness&#039; attention he could also lobby him to stop lying to Africans about condoms &lt;i&gt;spreading&lt;/i&gt; AIDS?

Come to think of it, Kevin probably doesn&#039;t need to provide the Pope with any &quot;evidence&quot; of Mary Mackillop&#039;s &quot;miracles&quot;. It&#039;s pretty clear that the church doesn&#039;t require such trivial information to support its teachings and claims. In fact, maybe a better tactic to achieve her sainthood would be for Kevin to convince the Pope that there is scientific proof that Mary didn&#039;t perform miracles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think while Kevin&#8217;s got His Holiness&#8217; attention he could also lobby him to stop lying to Africans about condoms <i>spreading</i> AIDS?</p>
<p>Come to think of it, Kevin probably doesn&#8217;t need to provide the Pope with any &#8220;evidence&#8221; of Mary Mackillop&#8217;s &#8220;miracles&#8221;. It&#8217;s pretty clear that the church doesn&#8217;t require such trivial information to support its teachings and claims. In fact, maybe a better tactic to achieve her sainthood would be for Kevin to convince the Pope that there is scientific proof that Mary didn&#8217;t perform miracles.</p>
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