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	<title>Comments on: Readers lay in to First Dog for laying into Christianity</title>
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		<title>By: daveliberts</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/01/comments-corrections-clarifications-and-cckups-29/#comment-30147</link>
		<dc:creator>daveliberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Full marks to Michael Byrne. He&#039;s that rare beast, on these pages at least: a Christian who can outline why he&#039;s offended by a FDOTM cartoon without resorting to using this as an excuse to be intolerant of other religions. Well done to you, sir. Sadly, I suspect others will ignore this opportunity to learn from you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Full marks to Michael Byrne. He&#8217;s that rare beast, on these pages at least: a Christian who can outline why he&#8217;s offended by a FDOTM cartoon without resorting to using this as an excuse to be intolerant of other religions. Well done to you, sir. Sadly, I suspect others will ignore this opportunity to learn from you.</p>
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		<title>By: wyane</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/01/comments-corrections-clarifications-and-cckups-29/#comment-30098</link>
		<dc:creator>wyane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 06:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Christians are fair game for insults or bullying, perhaps because we tend to quietly write letters like this one, rather than riot in the streets or trash magazine offices.&quot;

that argument is like a foot-fault ... what you&#039;re really saying, Marcus, is that Christians are BETTER than those crazy heretics. admit it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>Christians are fair game for insults or bullying, perhaps because we tend to quietly write letters like this one, rather than riot in the streets or trash magazine offices.&#8221;</p>
<p>that argument is like a foot-fault &#8230; what you&#8217;re really saying, Marcus, is that Christians are BETTER than those crazy heretics. admit it.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Rundle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy Rundle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julian - the obvious reason why i&#039;m being triumphalist is because we&#039;re winning, and it feels goooooood. Quite aside from its reiki-like effect on my muscle groups and joints, i&#039;m doing no more than reporting and commenting on what&#039;s going on - that the right is falling apart here and in the States. I have also however, written a brace of articles pointing out what a malign travesty British Labour has become, and how David Cameron&#039;s Tories have comprehensively outclassed them, and yesterday that those on the left looking for a white house role in the Honduras coup seemed dumb and reflex. 

If attacking the right involves ridicule, satire, unfair metaphors, ridicule, litotes, and umm ridicule, so be it. Let&#039;s face is Tony Abbott much else than the manner in which he&#039;s described above.? More truth in jest..... All the above blagues were attached to rational arguments. 

As for whining about tright-wing triumphalism that&#039;s nonsense. I criticised News Ltd for narrowing and right-shifting the political spectrum of its coverage, and for its blatant slanting of its news sections, as a disservice to Australian debate, and as an expression of cowardice - and in the lead-up to both the Oz and US elections I pointed out that the right were wrapping themselves in a triumphalist bubble that had made it impossible for them to read reality, evidenced by the John Howard cult, and the &#039;America is a conservative country&#039; mantra. I&#039;m not asking for an umpire to adjudicate - i&#039;m trying to demonstrate their worthlessness in the court of public opinion.

Yes, the tide will turn. So ride the wave while it lasts. I&#039;m a bit hurt that you left out the bit about Peter Costello being made of processed chicken meat. And the Sanford kidney machine thing  - that was genuine admiration. I mean duhhh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julian - the obvious reason why i&#8217;m being triumphalist is because we&#8217;re winning, and it feels goooooood. Quite aside from its reiki-like effect on my muscle groups and joints, i&#8217;m doing no more than reporting and commenting on what&#8217;s going on - that the right is falling apart here and in the States. I have also however, written a brace of articles pointing out what a malign travesty British Labour has become, and how David Cameron&#8217;s Tories have comprehensively outclassed them, and yesterday that those on the left looking for a white house role in the Honduras coup seemed dumb and reflex. </p>
<p>If attacking the right involves ridicule, satire, unfair metaphors, ridicule, litotes, and umm ridicule, so be it. Let&#8217;s face is Tony Abbott much else than the manner in which he&#8217;s described above.? More truth in jest&#8230;.. All the above blagues were attached to rational arguments. </p>
<p>As for whining about tright-wing triumphalism that&#8217;s nonsense. I criticised News Ltd for narrowing and right-shifting the political spectrum of its coverage, and for its blatant slanting of its news sections, as a disservice to Australian debate, and as an expression of cowardice - and in the lead-up to both the Oz and US elections I pointed out that the right were wrapping themselves in a triumphalist bubble that had made it impossible for them to read reality, evidenced by the John Howard cult, and the &#8216;America is a conservative country&#8217; mantra. I&#8217;m not asking for an umpire to adjudicate - i&#8217;m trying to demonstrate their worthlessness in the court of public opinion.</p>
<p>Yes, the tide will turn. So ride the wave while it lasts. I&#8217;m a bit hurt that you left out the bit about Peter Costello being made of processed chicken meat. And the Sanford kidney machine thing  - that was genuine admiration. I mean duhhh.</p>
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