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		<title>By: Heathdon McGregor</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/01/70611/#comment-30071</link>
		<dc:creator>Heathdon McGregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wyane

It takes one to know one.

Although I prefer working class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wyane</p>
<p>It takes one to know one.</p>
<p>Although I prefer working class.</p>
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		<title>By: wyane</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/01/70611/#comment-30063</link>
		<dc:creator>wyane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Billie, there are other advantages to employing a young, single student on a visa. They are less likely to want to take off at 5.30 sharp to get to the child care centre, less likely to know of workplace rights, more likely to work 10 hours without claiming a lousy 30 mins time-in-lieu and so on. (They are also more likely to post the daily email edition on time ... tsk tsk).

And yes, Heathdon, I am a dyed in the blood Bogan. Well spotted and thanks for the well wishes :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Billie, there are other advantages to employing a young, single student on a visa. They are less likely to want to take off at 5.30 sharp to get to the child care centre, less likely to know of workplace rights, more likely to work 10 hours without claiming a lousy 30 mins time-in-lieu and so on. (They are also more likely to post the daily email edition on time &#8230; tsk tsk).</p>
<p>And yes, Heathdon, I am a dyed in the blood Bogan. Well spotted and thanks for the well wishes <img src='http://www.crikey.com.au/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Heathdon McGregor</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/01/70611/#comment-30062</link>
		<dc:creator>Heathdon McGregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear  Billie

my problem is that the students are not being vocal about how they have been hoodwinked or defrauded therefore accusing the fraudsters involved in the false promises. My problem is that they (and their journalistic supporters) are intimating without proof that Australia is racist and singles out indian students for violence, causing tensions that are unnecessary.

I dont know if it is just to sell newspapers or clicks but everytime they dredge this up somebody reacts. Whether it is groups of thugs on train lines or thugs using race as an excuse for their thuggery.

I still have not seen any statistics as to how many indian students had crimes perpetrated against them  in relation to other ethnicities.

Unfortunately the politicians will bend to the squeaky wheel. Victoria&#039;s police commisioner should have followed the example of his NSW counterpart and ask the accusers to put up or shut up. when they accused his members of racism. Instead he buckled to PR  and smeared all of his officers by increasing patrols as if the problem was real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear  Billie</p>
<p>my problem is that the students are not being vocal about how they have been hoodwinked or defrauded therefore accusing the fraudsters involved in the false promises. My problem is that they (and their journalistic supporters) are intimating without proof that Australia is racist and singles out indian students for violence, causing tensions that are unnecessary.</p>
<p>I dont know if it is just to sell newspapers or clicks but everytime they dredge this up somebody reacts. Whether it is groups of thugs on train lines or thugs using race as an excuse for their thuggery.</p>
<p>I still have not seen any statistics as to how many indian students had crimes perpetrated against them  in relation to other ethnicities.</p>
<p>Unfortunately the politicians will bend to the squeaky wheel. Victoria&#8217;s police commisioner should have followed the example of his NSW counterpart and ask the accusers to put up or shut up. when they accused his members of racism. Instead he buckled to PR  and smeared all of his officers by increasing patrols as if the problem was real.</p>
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		<title>By: billie</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/01/70611/#comment-30061</link>
		<dc:creator>billie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wyane you might find that your employer pays 8% payroll tax on top of your salary.  The employers of 457 visa holders might be exempt from payroll tax.

I wonder why Australians bother to study IT at university as our large institutions are hell bent on sending all back office jobs offshore.

I am not convinced that Indian programmers are any better than the Australians they replace.  Sure 20 years ago programmers could fall into the job because they were good clerks who were trained up, but these days IT graduates skill levels are similiar where ever they study.

Why are the Indian students being vocal?  They speak English well, they are not frightened to speak their mind, and they have been sold places in degree courses in second rate colleges that promise them Australian residency visas after 2 years study.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wyane you might find that your employer pays 8% payroll tax on top of your salary.  The employers of 457 visa holders might be exempt from payroll tax.</p>
<p>I wonder why Australians bother to study IT at university as our large institutions are hell bent on sending all back office jobs offshore.</p>
<p>I am not convinced that Indian programmers are any better than the Australians they replace.  Sure 20 years ago programmers could fall into the job because they were good clerks who were trained up, but these days IT graduates skill levels are similiar where ever they study.</p>
<p>Why are the Indian students being vocal?  They speak English well, they are not frightened to speak their mind, and they have been sold places in degree courses in second rate colleges that promise them Australian residency visas after 2 years study.</p>
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		<title>By: Heathdon McGregor</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/01/70611/#comment-30057</link>
		<dc:creator>Heathdon McGregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wyane

In the same sarcastic vein

Being a smith your probably anglo and therefore born with all the money you need and the right skin colour, therefore the reason you cant find a job is your fault, that or you are a bogan(amazingly a term based on race and class that is acceptable) and it is your fault anyway.

As you may have read in crikey its harder to get a job with an ethnic name, oh yeah that was another racist beat up without evidence.

best of luck in your work search</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wyane</p>
<p>In the same sarcastic vein</p>
<p>Being a smith your probably anglo and therefore born with all the money you need and the right skin colour, therefore the reason you cant find a job is your fault, that or you are a bogan(amazingly a term based on race and class that is acceptable) and it is your fault anyway.</p>
<p>As you may have read in crikey its harder to get a job with an ethnic name, oh yeah that was another racist beat up without evidence.</p>
<p>best of luck in your work search</p>
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		<title>By: wyane</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/01/70611/#comment-30054</link>
		<dc:creator>wyane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heathdon, because being born on a good rung of the caste system makes a person deserve preferential treatment from the police and media in a foreign country?

While I adjust my &#039;victim&#039; hat, I&#039;d add a couple of related questions to the issue of foreign students and the skilled visa program.

With my 15-years&#039; experience in the ICT industry, what do I need to do to gain a permanent full-time position?

My last contract ended in March 2008. I&#039;ve been looking for a fulltime position since October 2008 and on the dole, sorry Newstart, since May 2009 (silly me, saved money and had to spend it to qualify - next time I&#039;ll piss it all against the wall and play Lotto as I go).

Perhaps I should go to India and apply for a 457 visa?

Or, change my surname to something more employable? (Currently, it&#039;s &#039;Smith&#039;).

Suggestions welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heathdon, because being born on a good rung of the caste system makes a person deserve preferential treatment from the police and media in a foreign country?</p>
<p>While I adjust my &#8216;victim&#8217; hat, I&#8217;d add a couple of related questions to the issue of foreign students and the skilled visa program.</p>
<p>With my 15-years&#8217; experience in the ICT industry, what do I need to do to gain a permanent full-time position?</p>
<p>My last contract ended in March 2008. I&#8217;ve been looking for a fulltime position since October 2008 and on the dole, sorry Newstart, since May 2009 (silly me, saved money and had to spend it to qualify - next time I&#8217;ll piss it all against the wall and play Lotto as I go).</p>
<p>Perhaps I should go to India and apply for a 457 visa?</p>
<p>Or, change my surname to something more employable? (Currently, it&#8217;s &#8216;Smith&#8217;).</p>
<p>Suggestions welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: David Sanderson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/01/70611/#comment-30050</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more for the list: Palin writes an email in God&#039;s name. God is not amused.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/michaeltomasky/2009/jun/30/sarah-palin-vanity-fair</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more for the list: Palin writes an email in God&#8217;s name. God is not amused.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/michaeltomasky/2009/jun/30/sarah-palin-vanity-fair" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/michaeltomasky/2009/jun/30/sarah-palin-vanity-fair</a></p>
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		<title>By: Heathdon McGregor</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/01/70611/#comment-30049</link>
		<dc:creator>Heathdon McGregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>still pushing the foreign students(not just Indian anymore since the visa problem story broke eh?) beat up. Why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>still pushing the foreign students(not just Indian anymore since the visa problem story broke eh?) beat up. Why?</p>
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		<title>By: David Sanderson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/01/70611/#comment-30048</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Foreign studfents&quot;??

I&#039;m not sure many people would agree with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>Foreign studfents&#8221;??</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure many people would agree with you.</p>
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