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		<title>By: Jillian Blackall</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/23/rundle-turnbulls-already-gone/#comment-29429</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillian Blackall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like people who are not political professionals - like John Hewson and Malcolm Turnbull. It&#039;s time we had a real person as Prime Minister. 

It&#039;s very noticeable that no other well known person has stepped up to run the ARM, but the republican cause will gain momentum again when the time is right. I agree with Malcolm (and Bob Hawke) that that time is at the end of the current Queen&#039;s reign. By then as well as the monarchy losing a lot of popularity, also a lot of monarchists will have died.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like people who are not political professionals - like John Hewson and Malcolm Turnbull. It&#8217;s time we had a real person as Prime Minister. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s very noticeable that no other well known person has stepped up to run the ARM, but the republican cause will gain momentum again when the time is right. I agree with Malcolm (and Bob Hawke) that that time is at the end of the current Queen&#8217;s reign. By then as well as the monarchy losing a lot of popularity, also a lot of monarchists will have died.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Serca</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/23/rundle-turnbulls-already-gone/#comment-29419</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Serca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jillian - isn&#039;t that the whole point about the difference between a political professional and a part-timer? did martin luther king say in 1964 &#039;well i&#039;ve done my bit....&#039; xanana gusmao? &#039;well it&#039;s 1985 reckon i&#039;ll take a holiday. bali maybe?.....etc. if turnbull really believed in the republic then post ref 1998 would have been exactly the time to stick with it, so it didnt fall apart....as it did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jillian - isn&#8217;t that the whole point about the difference between a political professional and a part-timer? did martin luther king say in 1964 &#8216;well i&#8217;ve done my bit&#8230;.&#8217; xanana gusmao? &#8216;well it&#8217;s 1985 reckon i&#8217;ll take a holiday. bali maybe?&#8230;..etc. if turnbull really believed in the republic then post ref 1998 would have been exactly the time to stick with it, so it didnt fall apart&#8230;.as it did.</p>
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		<title>By: Jillian Blackall</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/23/rundle-turnbulls-already-gone/#comment-29410</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillian Blackall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In relation to Malcolm&#039;s response to the republican referendum: Malcolm worked harder than just about anyone on the &#039;yes&#039; campaign and setting up the ARM prior to that. He had done his bit and it was time for someone else to step up. A major constitutional change should not be expected to be managed by one person. 

Malcolm has done very well being a successful person despite the abandonment by his mother. A lot of people would have been totally crushed by that. 

Malcolm has not already gone. Let&#039;s hope he will be Australia&#039;s answer to David Cameron in the UK and John Keys in New Zealand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In relation to Malcolm&#8217;s response to the republican referendum: Malcolm worked harder than just about anyone on the &#8216;yes&#8217; campaign and setting up the ARM prior to that. He had done his bit and it was time for someone else to step up. A major constitutional change should not be expected to be managed by one person. </p>
<p>Malcolm has done very well being a successful person despite the abandonment by his mother. A lot of people would have been totally crushed by that. </p>
<p>Malcolm has not already gone. Let&#8217;s hope he will be Australia&#8217;s answer to David Cameron in the UK and John Keys in New Zealand.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Garnett</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/23/rundle-turnbulls-already-gone/#comment-29400</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Garnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think talking about specific people&#039;s behviours in terms of the loss of their parents is about as objectionable as the Chasers&#039; War On Children. You are right about one thing, cheap psychoanalysis IS a plague on political writing. Your analysis here falls well into that category.  It adds nothing to the debate, has no basis in fact and serves no purpose other than to titillate. I don&#039;t have a lot of time for Malcom, but I wouldn&#039;t stoop to that sort of rubbish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think talking about specific people&#8217;s behviours in terms of the loss of their parents is about as objectionable as the Chasers&#8217; War On Children. You are right about one thing, cheap psychoanalysis IS a plague on political writing. Your analysis here falls well into that category.  It adds nothing to the debate, has no basis in fact and serves no purpose other than to titillate. I don&#8217;t have a lot of time for Malcom, but I wouldn&#8217;t stoop to that sort of rubbish.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom McLoughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/23/rundle-turnbulls-already-gone/#comment-29392</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom McLoughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Methinks Guy doesn&#039;t understand the experience and pressure of high stakes litigation. The emotional rollercoaster. The peaks and troughs. The despair and the sublime inspiration rescuing a case from ruin or even victory against apparent lay down misere. Often within several days.

It&#039;s Rumpole, it&#039;s SpyCatcher etc etc. If Turnbull is beaten already then I will eat my cabbage hat. Rather I think he&#039;s got back from such positions many times. In fact expects the grind. For instance if as Crabb says &quot;events&quot; turned the case into a &quot;rogue elephant&quot; then it may well be events will again.

Litigation is about living with cruel uncertainty without blowing a gasket.

Another thing too - Turnbull is a technology nut after Ozemail. Methinks he understands the vagaries of email well enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Methinks Guy doesn&#8217;t understand the experience and pressure of high stakes litigation. The emotional rollercoaster. The peaks and troughs. The despair and the sublime inspiration rescuing a case from ruin or even victory against apparent lay down misere. Often within several days.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s Rumpole, it&#8217;s SpyCatcher etc etc. If Turnbull is beaten already then I will eat my cabbage hat. Rather I think he&#8217;s got back from such positions many times. In fact expects the grind. For instance if as Crabb says &#8220;events&#8221; turned the case into a &#8220;rogue elephant&#8221; then it may well be events will again.</p>
<p>Litigation is about living with cruel uncertainty without blowing a gasket.</p>
<p>Another thing too - Turnbull is a technology nut after Ozemail. Methinks he understands the vagaries of email well enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz45</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/23/rundle-turnbulls-already-gone/#comment-29381</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I note that those who&#039;d like to see Heffernan as Leader are blokes? Oh please! Just what we don&#039;t need, another misogynist as a potential PM. I can&#039;t stand him! I won&#039;t even refer to him as a man, as I do know some pretty decent men, and I wouldn&#039;t insult them. There&#039;s nobody to take over. They&#039;re either overgrown catholic school boys, with the mentality of a class bully, or women who just let the side down, like Julie Bishop, or Bronwyn??

Malcolm Turnbull was a disaster just waiting for an excuse to stuff up. As someone wrote in the SMH today - &#039;I bet Costello wishes he&#039;d waited just a couple of more days?&#039;
Whenever there&#039;s a &#039;crime&#039; committed, the first thing to do is ask who would benefit if it worked? Then, follow the trail and find the culprit. It&#039;s pathetic to think that an adult male could act as stupidly as Turnbull. Truly! How dumb! Also, if you intend telling lies, make sure you have a damned good memory - as you&#039;ll really come undone. That&#039;s the message I gave to my kids anyway. Also, if I find out you&#039;re lying to me (and mothers know these things) you&#039;ll be in more trouble than you can handle - trust me!

What really is annoying me now, is that this is supposedly the last week of Parliament before the little darlings escape the freezing of a fair dinkum Canberra winter. This could be Turnbull&#039;s action to prevent debate on the ETS - better than a fillibuster? Keep everybody, including the media to focus on something else. Very clever Malcolm, except I&#039;m not the only one who&#039;ll twig! I&#039;m surprised our bright boys at the Telegraph haven&#039;t woken up yet, but then I think they&#039;re in it too! I&#039;ll have a bet with someone who&#039;ll give me a name as to the journalist who&#039;ll twig first!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I note that those who&#8217;d like to see Heffernan as Leader are blokes? Oh please! Just what we don&#8217;t need, another misogynist as a potential PM. I can&#8217;t stand him! I won&#8217;t even refer to him as a man, as I do know some pretty decent men, and I wouldn&#8217;t insult them. There&#8217;s nobody to take over. They&#8217;re either overgrown catholic school boys, with the mentality of a class bully, or women who just let the side down, like Julie Bishop, or Bronwyn??</p>
<p>Malcolm Turnbull was a disaster just waiting for an excuse to stuff up. As someone wrote in the SMH today - &#8216;I bet Costello wishes he&#8217;d waited just a couple of more days?&#8217;<br />
Whenever there&#8217;s a &#8216;crime&#8217; committed, the first thing to do is ask who would benefit if it worked? Then, follow the trail and find the culprit. It&#8217;s pathetic to think that an adult male could act as stupidly as Turnbull. Truly! How dumb! Also, if you intend telling lies, make sure you have a damned good memory - as you&#8217;ll really come undone. That&#8217;s the message I gave to my kids anyway. Also, if I find out you&#8217;re lying to me (and mothers know these things) you&#8217;ll be in more trouble than you can handle - trust me!</p>
<p>What really is annoying me now, is that this is supposedly the last week of Parliament before the little darlings escape the freezing of a fair dinkum Canberra winter. This could be Turnbull&#8217;s action to prevent debate on the ETS - better than a fillibuster? Keep everybody, including the media to focus on something else. Very clever Malcolm, except I&#8217;m not the only one who&#8217;ll twig! I&#8217;m surprised our bright boys at the Telegraph haven&#8217;t woken up yet, but then I think they&#8217;re in it too! I&#8217;ll have a bet with someone who&#8217;ll give me a name as to the journalist who&#8217;ll twig first!</p>
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		<title>By: gianni</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/23/rundle-turnbulls-already-gone/#comment-29380</link>
		<dc:creator>gianni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Sophie Mirabella? She could probably lug herself up to stick the finger in the dyke of the party’s leaking opportunities. Indi? Go girl!
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Guy,

Given common usage, I&#039;m pretty sure you meant &quot;dike&quot; in the above paragraph. Then again, it could be the basis for a wet dream for downbeat conservative members of the Liberal Party.</description>
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Sophie Mirabella? She could probably lug herself up to stick the finger in the dyke of the party’s leaking opportunities. Indi? Go girl!
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<p>Guy,</p>
<p>Given common usage, I&#8217;m pretty sure you meant &#8220;dike&#8221; in the above paragraph. Then again, it could be the basis for a wet dream for downbeat conservative members of the Liberal Party.</p>
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		<title>By: John Molloy</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/23/rundle-turnbulls-already-gone/#comment-29372</link>
		<dc:creator>John Molloy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love White Heat! Also, would love to see Bill Heffernan as Liberal leader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love White Heat! Also, would love to see Bill Heffernan as Liberal leader.</p>
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		<title>By: scot mcphee</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/23/rundle-turnbulls-already-gone/#comment-29368</link>
		<dc:creator>scot mcphee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought that Cagney blows himself up at the end of White Heat?

Anyway, a &quot;me-too&quot; on this great piece of analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought that Cagney blows himself up at the end of White Heat?</p>
<p>Anyway, a &#8220;me-too&#8221; on this great piece of analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: Heathdon McGregor</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/23/rundle-turnbulls-already-gone/#comment-29354</link>
		<dc:creator>Heathdon McGregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Money movers is the 70s movie about armoured cash delivery trucks, I think it starred Bryan Brown and Ed Devereaux(Skippy&#039;s dad) It was also rumoured,with about six other movies, to be the plot for reservoir dogs. Great flick

I heard on the news today that Mr Grech used to work for Mr Hockey. Is there any chance that Mr Hockey is a Machievallian genius who waited until Mr Costello resigned to enact his devious plot against Mr Turnball?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money movers is the 70s movie about armoured cash delivery trucks, I think it starred Bryan Brown and Ed Devereaux(Skippy&#8217;s dad) It was also rumoured,with about six other movies, to be the plot for reservoir dogs. Great flick</p>
<p>I heard on the news today that Mr Grech used to work for Mr Hockey. Is there any chance that Mr Hockey is a Machievallian genius who waited until Mr Costello resigned to enact his devious plot against Mr Turnball?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/23/rundle-turnbulls-already-gone/#comment-29348</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone know what Beresford movie he&#039;s talking about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know what Beresford movie he&#8217;s talking about?</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Beaver</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/23/rundle-turnbulls-already-gone/#comment-29345</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Beaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with John, terrific contribution Guy. Just the right combination of light hearted ridiculousness and a depressing report of the facts. Doesn&#039;t it send you mad reporting on this stuff Guy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with John, terrific contribution Guy. Just the right combination of light hearted ridiculousness and a depressing report of the facts. Doesn&#8217;t it send you mad reporting on this stuff Guy?</p>
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		<title>By: John Bennetts</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/23/rundle-turnbulls-already-gone/#comment-29334</link>
		<dc:creator>John Bennetts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aagin, a beautiful story from this erudite contributor.

As political analysis, it leaves unsaid just what the chances are for a return to real governance in our elected rulers.  Perhaps tomorrow...

It is a long way back to remember the Rat&#039;s helping of his brother&#039;s business and its employees after failure.  Real money changed hands, not just a fake email and heated words about a rusty old ute.

If Ruddy was loaned a ute during the election campaign, could this be because campaings are supposed to be run using only the resources of the relevant candidate and their party?  Presumably, Ruddy&#039;s government car was out of bounds and his neighbour&#039;s offer of a ute thus is seen to be a simple and sraight-forward act of support between mates.  I have on many occasions loaned a vehicle to friends, for extended periods of time, and I do not own a car yard.

So, by a process of elimination, it is now virtually certain that Bill Heffernan will become Leader of her Majesty&#039;s Australian Opposition, with Guy Rundle writing speaches for him.  

At least he might then lift to sentences of more than a dozen words.  I&#039;ve heard enough of his maniacal laugh for a lifetime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aagin, a beautiful story from this erudite contributor.</p>
<p>As political analysis, it leaves unsaid just what the chances are for a return to real governance in our elected rulers.  Perhaps tomorrow&#8230;</p>
<p>It is a long way back to remember the Rat&#8217;s helping of his brother&#8217;s business and its employees after failure.  Real money changed hands, not just a fake email and heated words about a rusty old ute.</p>
<p>If Ruddy was loaned a ute during the election campaign, could this be because campaings are supposed to be run using only the resources of the relevant candidate and their party?  Presumably, Ruddy&#8217;s government car was out of bounds and his neighbour&#8217;s offer of a ute thus is seen to be a simple and sraight-forward act of support between mates.  I have on many occasions loaned a vehicle to friends, for extended periods of time, and I do not own a car yard.</p>
<p>So, by a process of elimination, it is now virtually certain that Bill Heffernan will become Leader of her Majesty&#8217;s Australian Opposition, with Guy Rundle writing speaches for him.  </p>
<p>At least he might then lift to sentences of more than a dozen words.  I&#8217;ve heard enough of his maniacal laugh for a lifetime.</p>
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