Hardly. here’s bernard keane this afternoon: A pattern involving coordinated News Ltd and Opposition claims against the Government that turn out to be false seems to be emerging.

This squalid little affair is a result of the filth at newscrap getting together with the filth from the LNP.

Dishonesty and immoraility hand in hand with dishonesty and immorality.

They deserve each other.

Very Long Bow there, Rob Kruger.

Maybe, Pedro. But it’s just as possible to be a government plot as it is to be an opposition plot.

If I were in government (or in the treasury) and I knew there was someone regularly leaking information, (and there are regular leaks from treasury) I would use the tried and tested method of planting false information with a prime suspect and seeing if it leaked.

The IP address of the originating email can be traced - every pc/Mac has a unique ID.

You just can’t sent anonymous emails without being traced back to your original sending location.

Wrong! There are several methods of sending an anonymous email which conceal the originating IP. Concealing IP is trivial- Use TOR, or a VPN anonymizer, or I2P, or a simple proxy. There are even websites from which you can send an email in total anonymity. You can absolutely send completely anonymous emails- it’s trivial to do so.
FORGING an IP is also possible, and is a common hacking technique.
Hacking the email header and forwarding paths is also easily done.

Whether that was done in this case I don’t know. I expect we’ll all find out.
Just don’t discount the non-obvious possibilities.

Kevin Rudd might have made a good PM if he hadn’t decided that all the ministerial departments had to be run by two people. The person who was given the job together with the inclusion of himself. Stephen Smith could have saved himself a lot of heat from his family by opting out of all the travel, in the knowledge that Kevin Rudd would be doing it twice over.

Rudd has done everything from being an art critic which happens to fall within the jurisdiction of Peter Garrett’s portfolio-as with one lightening look at Bill Henson’s photo of a young girl, from somewhere in Shanghai, immediately enabled him to state the work to be filth. Oh we in Oz do so not need this kind of moralistic crap.
There are two people in charge of environmental concerns. Peter Garrett, Environment, Heritage and the Arts, and Senator Wong. Rudd himself brings up the tally to three people. the main spokesperson is of course, Kevin Rudd. I am informed that many of the bills which reach the Senate are devoid of detail. Thus making it impossible for anyone to sign these documents lest they find themselves at odds with some future law. In short the man has, entirely by his own interference, rendered the Labor Government down to the level of a farce.
It is my belief that the person to get everything and everyone back on the road again, Australia and the Labor Party, urgently need The Deputy Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, to take over.

Piers Akerman has a quote in the press too today from Grech that refuses to concede the “email dooesn’t exist”.

So the AFP say what they have found is consistent with a forgery. Well lots of things are “consistent” in the AFP’s world. Just ask Mohammed Haneef!

My comment still holds and bares repeating methinks:

“Fair comment Spike, but the AFP warrant and search of GG’s ‘puter still seems equivocal to me. Who sent it to him? Who created it? How come it came from Treasury (?) and yet we were assured even a deleted version would have already been found?

Was it a WP version only? Or maybe Gmail or such like? I give up.

GG needs a good lawyer pronto, that’s for sure. And said (!) lawyer present at any interviews with the AFP too I would say.

As Mark Riley said on 7 on Sunday night news - who ever faked this email ‘is going to gaol’. That’s grim.”

And to add my other comment on Stilgerian (spelling?) yesterday, namely that hot desking a send from someone else’s work station is more than conceivable, but by who??? And why did the original sweep assured to us by the PM not throw this up?

Certainly we are getting closer to the truth about all this deception but we are not there yet and yes the bottle is still spinning to leave someone naked in the middle of Martin Place on a cold winter day.

But I do find it touching that the Canberra Press Gallery are so trusting of an “indicative” advice from the AFP. And that’s even if Rudd and Charlton and Swan are entirely innocent. Indeed if all the main players including Turnbull and Grech are innocent except for a dose of hyperbole as Gerard Henderson might say (as per SMH column today).

I’ve just finished reading Annabel Crabbe’s quarterly essay on Turnbull and given what I read there, I’m surprised that someone as caculating as Turnbull to “push the last pass” and given away an intercept.

I think that there are goingto be a few more interesting revelations before this is over.

Bye bye Malcolm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dobby_the_house_elf#Dobby

I think they may have invented the next peoples’ festival theme: We’ve had Sydney Writers Festival., and Sydney Film Festival. Now we are having the Tipping Point Denial Festival ….meaning the two major parties are busy talking about themselves endlessly and effectively useless. Who else is not surprised at this timing with climate running on a parallel track?

This ‘narcisistic rage’, to borrow a phrase from Australian Story tonight, is quite the profound example of sublimation of their failure on the issue of their lifetime (and their childrens’ life too).

They really, really just don’t get it.

The pattern of fraudulent behavior we are seeing from various Liberal politicians and their various hangers-on is evidence of how far Howard degraded the political morality of his party. The shabbiness that was Howard’s hallmark has become the hallmark of the party he once utterly dominated.

The Liberals have the Born To Rule: Convict. attitude. It’s that simple here.

Malcolm is an effective litigation lawyer, but a totally dud politician.

Litigation lawyers don’t make good pollies IMHO.

Incidently dont know how many here see the absurd polls run by Sky News. I mailed them asking why they do not show how many vote in their silly biased questions. Biased because the socio eco group that would subscribe to Foxtel and watch Sky News would be in the main the more affluent segment of society, Lib supporters. Of course if you ask their news editor something that actually points out a perceived anomoly in their transmission, silence prvails. I asked why they do not do surveys to gauge the number of viewers, age groups, time zones they are watched. Nothing in reply, which sums up their arrogant attitude. Being a Murdoch owned company of course what more can one expect but arrogance and up yours mate.

He will not make it to the next election.

Do you have anything relevant to add to the thread??

Australia needs to look at the role of newscrap, and its acolytes in the ABC, in promoting this sordid and despicable affair.

Newscrap, ably abetted by its pathetic parrots in Brissenden and Uhlmann on the ABC, has proved in this (who really needed proof after its Pauline Hanson lies) that it is utterly lacking in professionalism and competence, integrity and honesty, and journalistic ethics, not to mention any form of basic morality.

Australia’s media is contemptible. No wonder journalists rank lower than used car salesmen and politicians themselves in public opinion polls.

Very Long Bow there, Rob Kruger.

Let’s be realistic here. Paul Lindwall, Turnbull staffer until the end of May (coincidence?) sends an email from his Treasury pc through a bulk email or email falsifier program to Mr Grech at his home address. The IP address of the originating email can be traced - every pc/Mac has a unique ID. It’s traced back to Treasury. Ding, ding!!

Why did the AFP go straight to Treasury after finding the email on Grech’s home computer?

You just can’t sent anonymous emails without being traced back to your original sending location. If it’s a government computer they will be able to trace any mails sent through a CD-loaded program that wasn’t even installed.