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	<title>Comments on: Iran&#8217;s digital warzone gets bloody</title>
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		<title>By: Syd Walker</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/17/irans-digital-warzone-gets-bloody/#comment-28841</link>
		<dc:creator>Syd Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rena Zurawel makes some excellent points, IMO. This whole post-election circus is starting to look more and more like the Soros-sponsored ‘Orange’ and ‘Rose’ revolutions of recent times. It even has its own color: in this case, green. How convenient.

In 2007 Seymour Hersh reported that tens of millions of dollars had been allocated by the US Congress to help destabilize Iran. I’d say we’re seeing the results.

It may well be that the Iranian Government was ‘spooked’ into a premature release of results – and possible these were innacurate. But the context is worth mentioning. Barely had the polls closed before Mousavi declared victory – on the strength of his own exit polls!  Concerned about external destabilization and what would happen if that disinformation was left hanging for days, they probably announced the official results earlier than planned. It’s possible they were fudged.

By as Rena points out – the major externally commissioned poll before the election predicted the officially announced outcome with remarkable accuracy. It was commissioned by groups unlikely to favour the incumbent.

I suspect that once they knew their favourite was going to lose, the western spooks, in cahoots as always with the MSM (money-serving media) put their energy into trying to delegitimize the election result. That’s the phase we’re at now.

Incidentally, why aren’t western pro-democracy twitterers twittering about Georgia? They wouldn’t, perchance, have an agenda?

See http://sydwalker.info/blog/2009/06/17/the-western-medias-busted-flush/
to explain the relevance of this reference to Georgia, and:
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/proof-israeli-effort-to-destabilize-iran-via-twitter/
for more about whose pushing the tweets...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rena Zurawel makes some excellent points, IMO. This whole post-election circus is starting to look more and more like the Soros-sponsored ‘Orange’ and ‘Rose’ revolutions of recent times. It even has its own color: in this case, green. How convenient.</p>
<p>In 2007 Seymour Hersh reported that tens of millions of dollars had been allocated by the US Congress to help destabilize Iran. I’d say we’re seeing the results.</p>
<p>It may well be that the Iranian Government was ‘spooked’ into a premature release of results – and possible these were innacurate. But the context is worth mentioning. Barely had the polls closed before Mousavi declared victory – on the strength of his own exit polls!  Concerned about external destabilization and what would happen if that disinformation was left hanging for days, they probably announced the official results earlier than planned. It’s possible they were fudged.</p>
<p>By as Rena points out – the major externally commissioned poll before the election predicted the officially announced outcome with remarkable accuracy. It was commissioned by groups unlikely to favour the incumbent.</p>
<p>I suspect that once they knew their favourite was going to lose, the western spooks, in cahoots as always with the MSM (money-serving media) put their energy into trying to delegitimize the election result. That’s the phase we’re at now.</p>
<p>Incidentally, why aren’t western pro-democracy twitterers twittering about Georgia? They wouldn’t, perchance, have an agenda?</p>
<p>See <a href="http://sydwalker.info/blog/2009/06/17/the-western-medias-busted-flush/" rel="nofollow">http://sydwalker.info/blog/2009/06/17/the-western-medias-busted-flush/</a><br />
to explain the relevance of this reference to Georgia, and:<br />
<a href="http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/proof-israeli-effort-to-destabilize-iran-via-twitter/" rel="nofollow">http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/proof-israeli-effort-to-destabilize-iran-via-twitter/</a><br />
for more about whose pushing the tweets&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Susie Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/17/irans-digital-warzone-gets-bloody/#comment-28833</link>
		<dc:creator>Susie Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why the media shouldn&#039;t publicise twitter account names

Please refrain from giving out the names of Iranian protesters in any 
form publicly. Whether they are sharing information through youtube, 
twitter, or through other people, they are taking a great personal 
risk upon themselves to ensure that they are not silenced. When you 
share their names, you share everything they have - information that 
can be used to find them much easier. Additionally, please do not 
share the names of missing protesters unless asked by verified 
friends and family. They may be hiding and trying to avoid being 
detected by that name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the media shouldn&#8217;t publicise twitter account names</p>
<p>Please refrain from giving out the names of Iranian protesters in any<br />
form publicly. Whether they are sharing information through youtube,<br />
twitter, or through other people, they are taking a great personal<br />
risk upon themselves to ensure that they are not silenced. When you<br />
share their names, you share everything they have - information that<br />
can be used to find them much easier. Additionally, please do not<br />
share the names of missing protesters unless asked by verified<br />
friends and family. They may be hiding and trying to avoid being<br />
detected by that name.</p>
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		<title>By: Rena Zurawel</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/17/irans-digital-warzone-gets-bloody/#comment-28824</link>
		<dc:creator>Rena Zurawel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand. On Monday, The Washington Post revealed that two American pollster groups: Ken Ballen from the Centre for Public Opinion and Patrick Doherty - the director of the American Strategy Program at the New American Foundation -had conducted regular polling surveys  in Iran prior to the election. Their findings were reflected in the election results as they had predicted a landslide win for Ahmadinejad. 
If The Washington Post report is correct what is the whole fuss all about???
And some people &#039;would still like to know where all these crusaiders for honest voting were when the US election were being rigged in 2002, 2004, 2006, etc&#039; (WRH)
Why is it then that the election in Iran seems to be more important than any of the elections in the USA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand. On Monday, The Washington Post revealed that two American pollster groups: Ken Ballen from the Centre for Public Opinion and Patrick Doherty - the director of the American Strategy Program at the New American Foundation -had conducted regular polling surveys  in Iran prior to the election. Their findings were reflected in the election results as they had predicted a landslide win for Ahmadinejad.<br />
If The Washington Post report is correct what is the whole fuss all about???<br />
And some people &#8216;would still like to know where all these crusaiders for honest voting were when the US election were being rigged in 2002, 2004, 2006, etc&#8217; (WRH)<br />
Why is it then that the election in Iran seems to be more important than any of the elections in the USA?</p>
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