Futher, ‘carbon’ is not demonised, it’s abbreviated. As a man of science you would well know that there are many gases and variables (aerosols among them); Co2 is the most obvious, and the most reported in the media. They’ve abbreviated that to simple carbon. There are a couple of carbon compounds on the list, so it doesn’t seem that unreasonable to me.

And yes, I am ignoring something; the bleeting of those opposed to change, and those who think the Heartland Institute produces good science. Why not trust that this problem, like a lot of others, has the smarter minds on it. I have never heard a good reason to doubt the motives of climate scientists, and will continue to follow their recommendations, which are pretty simple. Pollute less. It makes sense on so many levels. Why fight it?

I was going to bother arguing the science with you, but at this, very, very late stage, anyone who doesn’t ‘believe’ the science, is either intentionally ignorant or genetically incapable of general understanding. Huge chunks of the civilised world, who are smarter, more qualified and much, much more powerful than you, have realised that we’re stuffing the climate royally, and that the best way to fix it is by limiting pollution. Note that I didn’t say ‘carbon’, but that any of the gases, synthetic or otherwise, that anthropogenic effects put into the atmosphere that contain covalent bonds have a pretty solid warming potential. If you don’t know what a covalent bond is, then you’re way out of your depth and should probably stay inside for a few days. Do some more reading, have a cup of tea and a lie down, and get prepared for a change to the status quo that you know and love. Things ARE going to change, whether you like it or not.

(1) anthropogenic carbon dioxide is a primary determinant of global temperature at current and higher concentrations;

(2) that mankind can directly make significant changes to global temperatures by playing with carbon dioxide, and

(3) that ‘carbon’ is pollution

It really is a wide ranging and good principle of law and morality.

Here is yet another novel and political sphere:

When Keating was frothing about $20B or something in lost revenue from failure to proceed with a firesale of NSW energy assets I duly reported him to the ACCC via their website under this same section - on the basis he was connected to a financial consultancy of some kind in favour of the sell off and yet contrary to his SMH article confused valuations of the 1997 proposal compared to 2008 were for widely divergent assets, in other words apples and oranges. Misleading and deceptive conduct.

Nor was t his my original insight, rather John Kay MP (Greens, NSW).

The ACCC web dude called me up for further detail too. That’ll do Pig!

Another potential example - I reported Coca Cola to the ACCC for potentially claiming water from their site at Peats Ridge as Spring Water, yet it never leaves the ground, and in fact is sourced from a bore tens of metres below the ground. Or as any farmer might describe it as ‘bore water’ not spring water. Get your sparkling fresh bore water. Doesn’t have the same ring about it really. Then we clipped their wings in the NSW land & Env Court (Party name Kettle consultant to Coke). Various flying legal documents to their mail room at Circular Quay with the free drinks fridge in the foyer. This foray didn’t go far, but ironically the ACCC really hooked into Coke a few months later, earlier 2009, even by implication a 60 Minutes rebuff of the bottled water scam.

Ever since I’ve wondered if the the Peats Ridge mob pushed Coke to overcompensate with their ‘Myths’ PR advert campaign, and our brazen complaint on product description gave the ACCC a taste for some action on their own part. Far beyond anything we could have hoped. Thankyou Mr Samuel!

I do find it incredible that there is legislation governing what companies have to tell their shareholders; essentially that it be truthful and reasonable, yet no such legislation exists on information supplied to the Government. They can (and obviously do) just feed any old BS to their minister, knowing their is no way the can be held accountable. What a crock. Virtually treason in my book, which is pretty open minded in general. Further indication of the power of the dollar over the worth of the people.

They’ve been getting subsidies, cheap water and electricity etc for years, while those who are doing it tough can’t afford a heater, and others have increased costs to look forward to. As a pensioner, I don’t mind paying my way(within reason), or contributing to alternate energy sources, but I get bloody furious about propping up the huge profits of companies like these, the banks, and the like, while they go about business as usual - stuffing up the planet for my grand kids? I’m sick of their pollution, I’m sick of their whining, and I’m sick of the clout they have with the Rudd Govt, State & Territory govts, the Opposition and the broader media!