Comments on: Grimshaw v Ramsay http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/11/comments-corrections-clarifications-and-cckups-16/ now with extra source Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:48:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Tamas Calderwood http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/11/comments-corrections-clarifications-and-cckups-16/#comment-28411 Tamas Calderwood Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:20:19 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/11/comments-corrections-clarifications-and-cckups-16/#comment-28411 Sigh... come on Matt Andrews. I've read the IPCC 4 summary reports and I take a look at pro-warming sites all the time. So what? They don't and you don't address any of the questions I raised yesterday. So I'll repeat myself and please argue the points. Explain why the latest temperature data from UAH shows Earth was just 0.04C above the 30 year mean in May. Why are Mars, Jupiter and Pluto also experiencing global warming? What about the historical correlation between sunspot activity and climate? What caused past climate change? Why do plate tectonics, volcanic activity, ocean currents, orbital wobbles, etc, etc have no role the 0.7C of warming in the past 100 years? Sigh… come on Matt Andrews. I’ve read the IPCC 4 summary reports and I take a look at pro-warming sites all the time. So what? They don’t and you don’t address any of the questions I raised yesterday.

So I’ll repeat myself and please argue the points.

Explain why the latest temperature data from UAH shows Earth was just 0.04C above the 30 year mean in May.

Why are Mars, Jupiter and Pluto also experiencing global warming?

What about the historical correlation between sunspot activity and climate?

What caused past climate change?

Why do plate tectonics, volcanic activity, ocean currents, orbital wobbles, etc, etc have no role the 0.7C of warming in the past 100 years?

]]> By: Greg Barns http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/11/comments-corrections-clarifications-and-cckups-16/#comment-28408 Greg Barns Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:05:51 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/11/comments-corrections-clarifications-and-cckups-16/#comment-28408 A Crikey Reader and my colleague Bernard Keane misunderstand the impact of the amendments passed by the Howard government and the Lennon government in Tasmania after Brown won his case in the Federal Court. The impact was precisely nil. I would refer readers to this passage from the judgment of the Full Court of the Federal Court in Brown v Forestry Tasmania, handed down on 30 November 2007: "The amendment to cl 68 of the RFA, insofar as it relates to CAR, simply puts in clearer language what we regard as the true meaning of the original clause." And this: "In our view the clarification effected by the new cl 68, which would have been unnecessary but for the erroneous decision below, does not rob the RFA of its character of a regional forest agreement as defined." As to Guy Rundle's ill informed personal attack can I indicate I never worked for the Prime Minister's office and he might care to read my weekly column in the Hobart Mercury in which he will find fulsome praise of the Greens on a number of issues. I would be more than happy to show Mr Rundle the facts so that he does trip himself up again. A Crikey Reader and my colleague Bernard Keane misunderstand the impact of the amendments passed by the Howard government and the Lennon government in Tasmania after Brown won his case in the Federal Court. The impact was precisely nil.

I would refer readers to this passage from the judgment of the Full Court of the Federal Court in Brown v Forestry Tasmania, handed down on 30 November 2007:

“The amendment to cl 68 of the RFA, insofar as it relates to CAR, simply puts in clearer language what we regard as the true meaning of the original clause.”

And this:

“In our view the clarification effected by the new cl 68, which would have been unnecessary but for the erroneous decision below, does not rob the RFA of its character of a regional forest agreement as defined.”

As to Guy Rundle’s ill informed personal attack can I indicate I never worked for the Prime Minister’s office and he might care to read my weekly column in the Hobart Mercury in which he will find fulsome praise of the Greens on a number of issues. I would be more than happy to show Mr Rundle the facts so that he does trip himself up again.

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