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	<title>Comments on: Mark Scott dumps ABC comedy chief</title>
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		<title>By: Andrew Triplett</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/10/mark-scott-dumps-abc-comedy-chief/#comment-28400</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Triplett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 01:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pathetic. A couple of days publicity over a questionable gag and the serious heads sack someone. Our society is becoming increasingly anaemic and controlled. It worries me now where the new line will be drawn. Mis-judgement is now a sackable offence, and I can&#039;t imagine Duthie&#039;s replacement is going to allow anything slightly controversial, which may result in her looking for a new job. Welcome to the new ball-less Chaser, where everything that made them good disappears up it&#039;s own second least offensive perfumed arse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pathetic. A couple of days publicity over a questionable gag and the serious heads sack someone. Our society is becoming increasingly anaemic and controlled. It worries me now where the new line will be drawn. Mis-judgement is now a sackable offence, and I can&#8217;t imagine Duthie&#8217;s replacement is going to allow anything slightly controversial, which may result in her looking for a new job. Welcome to the new ball-less Chaser, where everything that made them good disappears up it&#8217;s own second least offensive perfumed arse.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Robertson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/10/mark-scott-dumps-abc-comedy-chief/#comment-28389</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It really does reduce The Chaser team to that hoary old chestnut &#039;tenured radicals&#039;, this.  Jumping the shark is one thing, but once your take-no-prisoners satire has got someone else sacked (while you keep your job) any subsequent claim you make on subversion or cutting edgery is a lame pose. &#039;The Chaser: fearlessly risking other people&#039;s jobs&#039; just don&#039;t cut it in the Lenny Bruce Dept.

Actually, political satire of the middle-class palatable kind - and there&#039;s an oxymoron if ever one imploded - has been more-or-less dead for at least a decade, on just such TR grounds. You know the genre&#039;s gone squiffy when the political lint-pickers&#039; tactic of first resort is good-humored - even eager - assimilation. If the absence of Charles Firth - the Brian Jones of The Chaser backstory (the true anarchic groundbreaker, the Real Deal nutter geenyus, the logical-endpoint boundary pusher, etc etc)* - didn&#039;t white bread it into the comedy grave, Rudd&#039;s nerd-cheery permission to jolly well &#039;satirise us pollies, boys, we&#039;re fair game&#039; has. Private Eye catchphrases invoked playfully in Westminster, Fey and Palin mirroring-up on SNL, our &#039;boys&#039;...come on, it&#039;s all a bit like mum showing you where dad hides his wank mag stash, isn&#039;t it (&#039;Do feel free, dear...&#039;). Thus, the underwhelming spectacle of contemporary &#039;edge-cutting&#039; in the only way left: evermore obnoxious middle-class wannabe Peter Cooks (Exhibit A-1 of the mo&#039; being Sacha Baron Cohen) light on talent, heavy on chutzpah, overweight on production values and morbidly obese on ambition, browbeating the increasingly bemused (and bored) non-satirical meeja and general public into playing obliging stooge to evermore ponderously, unfunnily elaborate set-ups. 

It&#039;s really all just a bit bleh. When irony&#039;s a social default position it and all wot turns on it ceases to be. It&#039;s not that satire&#039;s dead - it&#039;s just f*cking exhausted. To stop a complete collapse it needs to be supported by the tangible Show Biz talent of a Tim Minchin, a Wharf Review squad, a Lehrer. Give it a rest, everyone else, for gawd&#039;s sake. If The Chaser boys are for real they&#039;ll walk, tomorrow. Do something else for a while. In reality they never jumped the shark: they were lobbed casually over it in passing a couple of years back, when Malcolm Turnbull shrugged off an attempted ambush with the killer punchline: &#039;Sorry, I&#039;m not interested in playing your straight man...&#039; And so say all of us, &#039;satirist&#039; dudes. Say, here&#039;s a cutting edge idea: how about you tell some jokes, do some funny voices, and maybe a little dance?

(*  I reckon...Reucassel = Jagger, Licciardello = Wood, Morrow = Wyman, Taylor = Watts, Hansen = Keef. Dom Knight is poor, stage-unfriendly Stu Sutcliffe, banished to play keyboard from the wings...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really does reduce The Chaser team to that hoary old chestnut &#8216;tenured radicals&#8217;, this.  Jumping the shark is one thing, but once your take-no-prisoners satire has got someone else sacked (while you keep your job) any subsequent claim you make on subversion or cutting edgery is a lame pose. &#8216;The Chaser: fearlessly risking other people&#8217;s jobs&#8217; just don&#8217;t cut it in the Lenny Bruce Dept.</p>
<p>Actually, political satire of the middle-class palatable kind - and there&#8217;s an oxymoron if ever one imploded - has been more-or-less dead for at least a decade, on just such TR grounds. You know the genre&#8217;s gone squiffy when the political lint-pickers&#8217; tactic of first resort is good-humored - even eager - assimilation. If the absence of Charles Firth - the Brian Jones of The Chaser backstory (the true anarchic groundbreaker, the Real Deal nutter geenyus, the logical-endpoint boundary pusher, etc etc)* - didn&#8217;t white bread it into the comedy grave, Rudd&#8217;s nerd-cheery permission to jolly well &#8216;satirise us pollies, boys, we&#8217;re fair game&#8217; has. Private Eye catchphrases invoked playfully in Westminster, Fey and Palin mirroring-up on SNL, our &#8216;boys&#8217;&#8230;come on, it&#8217;s all a bit like mum showing you where dad hides his wank mag stash, isn&#8217;t it (&#8216;Do feel free, dear&#8230;&#8217;). Thus, the underwhelming spectacle of contemporary &#8216;edge-cutting&#8217; in the only way left: evermore obnoxious middle-class wannabe Peter Cooks (Exhibit A-1 of the mo&#8217; being Sacha Baron Cohen) light on talent, heavy on chutzpah, overweight on production values and morbidly obese on ambition, browbeating the increasingly bemused (and bored) non-satirical meeja and general public into playing obliging stooge to evermore ponderously, unfunnily elaborate set-ups. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s really all just a bit bleh. When irony&#8217;s a social default position it and all wot turns on it ceases to be. It&#8217;s not that satire&#8217;s dead - it&#8217;s just f*cking exhausted. To stop a complete collapse it needs to be supported by the tangible Show Biz talent of a Tim Minchin, a Wharf Review squad, a Lehrer. Give it a rest, everyone else, for gawd&#8217;s sake. If The Chaser boys are for real they&#8217;ll walk, tomorrow. Do something else for a while. In reality they never jumped the shark: they were lobbed casually over it in passing a couple of years back, when Malcolm Turnbull shrugged off an attempted ambush with the killer punchline: &#8216;Sorry, I&#8217;m not interested in playing your straight man&#8230;&#8217; And so say all of us, &#8216;satirist&#8217; dudes. Say, here&#8217;s a cutting edge idea: how about you tell some jokes, do some funny voices, and maybe a little dance?</p>
<p>(*  I reckon&#8230;Reucassel = Jagger, Licciardello = Wood, Morrow = Wyman, Taylor = Watts, Hansen = Keef. Dom Knight is poor, stage-unfriendly Stu Sutcliffe, banished to play keyboard from the wings&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Keith is not my real name</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/10/mark-scott-dumps-abc-comedy-chief/#comment-28387</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith is not my real name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What did you think they would do? Take ownership for the fuckup? 

Get real</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What did you think they would do? Take ownership for the fuckup? </p>
<p>Get real</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/10/mark-scott-dumps-abc-comedy-chief/#comment-28375</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If ABC policy failed Duthie its the broadcaster who need to accept their system failed in this case Duthie and viewers. These days accountability ends with those holding the licence. If that means losing broadcasting rights so be it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If ABC policy failed Duthie its the broadcaster who need to accept their system failed in this case Duthie and viewers. These days accountability ends with those holding the licence. If that means losing broadcasting rights so be it.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel B1</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/10/mark-scott-dumps-abc-comedy-chief/#comment-28371</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel B1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad days, at least she had the guts to say she OKed it.

Unlike those smarmy, smug, self-righteous little pricks on the Chaser</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad days, at least she had the guts to say she OKed it.</p>
<p>Unlike those smarmy, smug, self-righteous little pricks on the Chaser</p>
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