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	<title>Comments on: Where is the evidence that junk food ads make kids fat?</title>
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		<title>By: robbi64</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/02/where-is-the-evidence-that-junk-food-ads-make-kids-fat/#comment-28014</link>
		<dc:creator>robbi64</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My two children have never been permitted to watch commercial television. Neither of them are overweight, although they lounge about on the couch fixated on the pixels for the average 2 hours a day. They were recently quite surprised to discover there are other channels besides the ABC. Interestingly they don&#039;t choose to watch them because, they whine, the programs are frequently interrupted with other &quot;stories&quot; that don&#039;t interest them.

Perhaps the question we could be asking is: if children are not exposed to frequent advertising for less healthy food options, are they more or less likely to become overweight? That might be easier to test? I&#039;m interested to hear what others think of that idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My two children have never been permitted to watch commercial television. Neither of them are overweight, although they lounge about on the couch fixated on the pixels for the average 2 hours a day. They were recently quite surprised to discover there are other channels besides the ABC. Interestingly they don&#8217;t choose to watch them because, they whine, the programs are frequently interrupted with other &#8220;stories&#8221; that don&#8217;t interest them.</p>
<p>Perhaps the question we could be asking is: if children are not exposed to frequent advertising for less healthy food options, are they more or less likely to become overweight? That might be easier to test? I&#8217;m interested to hear what others think of that idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Tyerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Tyerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 05:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pester power doesn&#039;t work, and that is why advertiser&#039;s never consider it when they are marketing to children. Ooops, I mean NOT marketing to children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pester power doesn&#8217;t work, and that is why advertiser&#8217;s never consider it when they are marketing to children. Ooops, I mean NOT marketing to children.</p>
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		<title>By: Dom Padden</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/02/where-is-the-evidence-that-junk-food-ads-make-kids-fat/#comment-27868</link>
		<dc:creator>Dom Padden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was it Dick Cavett who said that all this comedy on TV is causing comedy to break out on our streets?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was it Dick Cavett who said that all this comedy on TV is causing comedy to break out on our streets?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom McLoughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/02/where-is-the-evidence-that-junk-food-ads-make-kids-fat/#comment-27852</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom McLoughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 10:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I rely on the academics in the field on this  one, or even better the testimony of that Phd in advertising PR interviewed in doco The Corporation. She worked I think for the big scottich restuarant chain if memory serves. That was pretty compelling evidence that they pay big money for advertising to sell fatty food. Burp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rely on the academics in the field on this  one, or even better the testimony of that Phd in advertising PR interviewed in doco The Corporation. She worked I think for the big scottich restuarant chain if memory serves. That was pretty compelling evidence that they pay big money for advertising to sell fatty food. Burp.</p>
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		<title>By: Betty Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/02/where-is-the-evidence-that-junk-food-ads-make-kids-fat/#comment-27840</link>
		<dc:creator>Betty Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 08:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now let me get this straight. You all seem to agree that watching junk food advertising makes our kids fat. Right? OK . If this is so, then ensure the kids also watch lots of exercise advertising which, on the same logic will make them thin! Problem solved. But if you mean buying and eating the junk food advertised, than a different solution is required. Dont give the kids any money to buy the junk food.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now let me get this straight. You all seem to agree that watching junk food advertising makes our kids fat. Right? OK . If this is so, then ensure the kids also watch lots of exercise advertising which, on the same logic will make them thin! Problem solved. But if you mean buying and eating the junk food advertised, than a different solution is required. Dont give the kids any money to buy the junk food.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael James</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/02/where-is-the-evidence-that-junk-food-ads-make-kids-fat/#comment-27837</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 08:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;At best, advertising could account for 2% of food choice.&quot;
In that case McDonalds has no reason to object if its ads are restricted on TV.  Obviously they spend billions of dollars (and devised 130 separate ads in just the last year solely for the Australian market) just for that 2% of market share.  Yep, Chris Berg has convinced me with his evidence-based argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>At best, advertising could account for 2% of food choice.&#8221;<br />
In that case McDonalds has no reason to object if its ads are restricted on TV.  Obviously they spend billions of dollars (and devised 130 separate ads in just the last year solely for the Australian market) just for that 2% of market share.  Yep, Chris Berg has convinced me with his evidence-based argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Brannan</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/02/where-is-the-evidence-that-junk-food-ads-make-kids-fat/#comment-27828</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Brannan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 07:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The report says: &quot;...there is little evidence in this area to support either argument&quot; and &quot;lack of evidence does not mean there is no evidence&quot; and &quot;The reason that there is not much evidence is because it is difficult to study&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The report says: &#8220;&#8230;there is little evidence in this area to support either argument&#8221; and &#8220;lack of evidence does not mean there is no evidence&#8221; and &#8220;The reason that there is not much evidence is because it is difficult to study&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Damo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 07:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s ask a different question: Is fast food/junk food unhealthy and causing obesity in children? Yes. Then we should regulate or ban advertising. It has nothing to do with whether the advertising is linked with this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s ask a different question: Is fast food/junk food unhealthy and causing obesity in children? Yes. Then we should regulate or ban advertising. It has nothing to do with whether the advertising is linked with this.</p>
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		<title>By: stephen martin</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/02/where-is-the-evidence-that-junk-food-ads-make-kids-fat/#comment-27804</link>
		<dc:creator>stephen martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 06:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lack of evidence that junk food causes obesity?  It may not in itself cause obesity if it is given as a rare treat by parents. But considering the fat and sugar load it would have to be a factor if eaten several times a week in place of more nutritious food.
McDonald&#039;s and KFC et al wouldn&#039;t saturate TV if they didn&#039;t think they could influence the choice of dinner.Take a look at the adverts that display smiling families having &quot;fun&quot; eating their products.
 Not to mention sugar loaded soft drinks such as Coca Cola which many children appear to drink daily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lack of evidence that junk food causes obesity?  It may not in itself cause obesity if it is given as a rare treat by parents. But considering the fat and sugar load it would have to be a factor if eaten several times a week in place of more nutritious food.<br />
McDonald&#8217;s and KFC et al wouldn&#8217;t saturate TV if they didn&#8217;t think they could influence the choice of dinner.Take a look at the adverts that display smiling families having &#8220;fun&#8221; eating their products.<br />
 Not to mention sugar loaded soft drinks such as Coca Cola which many children appear to drink daily.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Brosnan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Brosnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IPA &quot;fellow&quot; ... say no more. It must be damned hard keeping up the appearance of being taken seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IPA &#8220;fellow&#8221; &#8230; say no more. It must be damned hard keeping up the appearance of being taken seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Luttrell</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/02/where-is-the-evidence-that-junk-food-ads-make-kids-fat/#comment-27771</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Luttrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 04:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a pathetic attempt to rationalise the reprehensible! 
Junk food is poison. It is filled with fat, sugar and chemical additives which do great harm to our health.  Children do not have the wisdom to discern such things. If an attractive,happy person or a cartoon character they love, tells them it&#039;s good stuff and they need it, then that&#039;s what they will believe. 
The lack of &quot;evidence&quot; is immaterial and a very poor excuse.  It would not be possible to mount an argument in 2009 that excessive fat and sugar are beneficial to anyone. Advertising to children is really brainwashing because they are powerless to discriminate. The cry from the advertisers that parents have the ability to control children&#039;s viewing habits is really quite malicious. Parents are fight a losing battle against the power of a billion dollar industry. Mr Berg&#039;s comments about choice and responsibility are laughable.

The question should be -  is advertising junk products to our children BENEFICIAL to them?
How is this lobby group so powerful that we allow such manipulation of our children to continue unabated and people like Chris Berg to be an apologist for them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a pathetic attempt to rationalise the reprehensible!<br />
Junk food is poison. It is filled with fat, sugar and chemical additives which do great harm to our health.  Children do not have the wisdom to discern such things. If an attractive,happy person or a cartoon character they love, tells them it&#8217;s good stuff and they need it, then that&#8217;s what they will believe.<br />
The lack of &#8220;evidence&#8221; is immaterial and a very poor excuse.  It would not be possible to mount an argument in 2009 that excessive fat and sugar are beneficial to anyone. Advertising to children is really brainwashing because they are powerless to discriminate. The cry from the advertisers that parents have the ability to control children&#8217;s viewing habits is really quite malicious. Parents are fight a losing battle against the power of a billion dollar industry. Mr Berg&#8217;s comments about choice and responsibility are laughable.</p>
<p>The question should be -  is advertising junk products to our children BENEFICIAL to them?<br />
How is this lobby group so powerful that we allow such manipulation of our children to continue unabated and people like Chris Berg to be an apologist for them?</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Chapman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 04:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, did you just step out of Dr Who&#039;s tardis, having last dropped in on a tobacco industry spin meeting in the 1970s?  Because that claptrap is exactly the line that the tobacco industry ran for 30 years (no evidence that tobacco advertising influences aggregate demand .. only brand share). So now it&#039;s no evidence that Maccas/KFC et al&#039;s advertising has ever played a part in kids eating more calories/day than they would if they never went there, right?  BTW, who pays the salaries of you people at the IPA? 

Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, did you just step out of Dr Who&#8217;s tardis, having last dropped in on a tobacco industry spin meeting in the 1970s?  Because that claptrap is exactly the line that the tobacco industry ran for 30 years (no evidence that tobacco advertising influences aggregate demand .. only brand share). So now it&#8217;s no evidence that Maccas/KFC et al&#8217;s advertising has ever played a part in kids eating more calories/day than they would if they never went there, right?  BTW, who pays the salaries of you people at the IPA? </p>
<p>Simon</p>
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