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	<title>Comments on: Legal issues lead Cairns doctors to cease medical abortion</title>
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		<title>By: Hidu</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/02/legal-issues-lead-cairns-doctors-to-cease-medical-abortion/#comment-27945</link>
		<dc:creator>Hidu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is where the left or at least sections of it has got it wrong. As someone committed to non violence I have always been amazed at how a human rights abuse issue has been dressed up as a feminist issue. Let&#039;s be clear. Abortion is a form of violence. It involves ending, usually violently, the life of an unborn child, in almost one hundred percent of cases created by people&#039;s voluntary decisions and actions. Late term abortion is particularly violent given that 23 weeks is the viable age for the unborn. Abortion should be illegal. Because it happens does not mean we should make it legal. How about female circumcision which is currently illegally practiced by groups in Australia. Should we legalise it just to make it safe? Abortion, alongside war, capital punishment, domestic violence and torture belongs in the past when science had not yet proved the humanity of the unborn. Denying the life of an unborn child as a bunch of cells is like arguing the earth is flat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is where the left or at least sections of it has got it wrong. As someone committed to non violence I have always been amazed at how a human rights abuse issue has been dressed up as a feminist issue. Let&#8217;s be clear. Abortion is a form of violence. It involves ending, usually violently, the life of an unborn child, in almost one hundred percent of cases created by people&#8217;s voluntary decisions and actions. Late term abortion is particularly violent given that 23 weeks is the viable age for the unborn. Abortion should be illegal. Because it happens does not mean we should make it legal. How about female circumcision which is currently illegally practiced by groups in Australia. Should we legalise it just to make it safe? Abortion, alongside war, capital punishment, domestic violence and torture belongs in the past when science had not yet proved the humanity of the unborn. Denying the life of an unborn child as a bunch of cells is like arguing the earth is flat.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh (Charlie) McColl</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/02/legal-issues-lead-cairns-doctors-to-cease-medical-abortion/#comment-27874</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh (Charlie) McColl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to the two doctors for calmly and clearly outlining the issues in this matter.  I can understand the Queensland politicians&#039; reluctance to even acknowledge the complications that have now arisen since the development of these innovations in abortion &#039;technology&#039; - the whole subject has been fraught with social and legal stigma all of my adult life and no matter what position a person (especially a politician) takes, they will often be in radical dispute with someone nearby - sometimes someone really close.  It doesn&#039;t do to step too far into the limelight.  Calmness is an essential ingredient.
Presumably, everyone will now follow with interest the progress of the criminal trial through the courts in Cairns.  At least we will now have some background on the real issues at stake.  The matter may go nowhere and the medical profession will be left (again) in a kind of limbo - as it has been since forever, or at least since the McGuire judgment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to the two doctors for calmly and clearly outlining the issues in this matter.  I can understand the Queensland politicians&#8217; reluctance to even acknowledge the complications that have now arisen since the development of these innovations in abortion &#8216;technology&#8217; - the whole subject has been fraught with social and legal stigma all of my adult life and no matter what position a person (especially a politician) takes, they will often be in radical dispute with someone nearby - sometimes someone really close.  It doesn&#8217;t do to step too far into the limelight.  Calmness is an essential ingredient.<br />
Presumably, everyone will now follow with interest the progress of the criminal trial through the courts in Cairns.  At least we will now have some background on the real issues at stake.  The matter may go nowhere and the medical profession will be left (again) in a kind of limbo - as it has been since forever, or at least since the McGuire judgment.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz45</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/02/legal-issues-lead-cairns-doctors-to-cease-medical-abortion/#comment-27798</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very sad and shameful position that has been forced on these two people. It&#039;s about time, that all states took the same action as those brave women in Victoria initiated, and the women and men who voted for it. The elimination of the criminal code into the debate. Perhaps, if men could become pregnant, or had to do the soul searching, and go through the trauma of making a decision re their pregnancy, the laws may have been changed years before this time. 

The fact is, that rich women have always had access to safe abortions by medically qualified doctors, only the poor ones died at the &#039;backyard abortionists&#039;. I, like many others truly believed, that once the RU486 debate and vote was taken and won, that medically induced abortions offered women another avenue of choice. That with medical supervision, there&#039;d be no real medical emergency, and with care and support, women would be allowed privacy and dignity in their decision. 

I urge Anna Bligh to take the courageous step and instigate some sanity into this situation, that has been used for years, to control the lives of women and their families. The laws in Queensland are obviously inadequate and unjust. As a woman, she owes it to the women in that state to stand up to the bullies, who don&#039;t give a hoot about womens&#039; lives, only in pushing their views on others.Women are old enough to vote, raise families, work for others in the community - they are more than adequately equipped to make decisions about their pregnancies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very sad and shameful position that has been forced on these two people. It&#8217;s about time, that all states took the same action as those brave women in Victoria initiated, and the women and men who voted for it. The elimination of the criminal code into the debate. Perhaps, if men could become pregnant, or had to do the soul searching, and go through the trauma of making a decision re their pregnancy, the laws may have been changed years before this time. </p>
<p>The fact is, that rich women have always had access to safe abortions by medically qualified doctors, only the poor ones died at the &#8216;backyard abortionists&#8217;. I, like many others truly believed, that once the RU486 debate and vote was taken and won, that medically induced abortions offered women another avenue of choice. That with medical supervision, there&#8217;d be no real medical emergency, and with care and support, women would be allowed privacy and dignity in their decision. </p>
<p>I urge Anna Bligh to take the courageous step and instigate some sanity into this situation, that has been used for years, to control the lives of women and their families. The laws in Queensland are obviously inadequate and unjust. As a woman, she owes it to the women in that state to stand up to the bullies, who don&#8217;t give a hoot about womens&#8217; lives, only in pushing their views on others.Women are old enough to vote, raise families, work for others in the community - they are more than adequately equipped to make decisions about their pregnancies.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Angelo</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/02/legal-issues-lead-cairns-doctors-to-cease-medical-abortion/#comment-27790</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Angelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t expect any reasonable leadership from politicians in this situation. They all run scared from the rabid right, on both this subject and euthanasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t expect any reasonable leadership from politicians in this situation. They all run scared from the rabid right, on both this subject and euthanasia.</p>
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