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		<title>By: Tamas Calderwood</title>
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		<description>Stephen Lunz:  On what possible basis do you assume a continual linear rise in temperatures?  What about the 1940-1970 cooling phase?  The world warms and cools naturally.  The current cooling (see data link below) seems to be related to the deep funk that the Sun is currently going through  - a grand solar minimum:

From www.wattsupwiththat.com:  &quot;A typical solar minimum lasts 485 days, based on an average of the last 10 solar minima. As of today we are at 638 spotless days in the current minimum. Also as of today, May 27th, 2009, there were no sunspots on 120 of this year’s (2009) 147 days to date (82%)....  To find a year with more blank suns, you have to go all the way back to 1913, which had 311 spotless days (85%)&quot;


And what evidence do you have that a 1C rise in temps will kill &quot;hundreds of millions&quot;?  The medieval and Roman warm periods were warmer than today and humanity did ok then.


Adam Rope:  It&#039;s just not good enough to say that you&#039;ll let the smart guys do all the thinking for you on this.

Check out the UAH temperature data for yourself:  http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/msu/t2lt/tltglhmam_5.2

UAH is thought to be the most accurate data set of global temperatures. I could have used RSS - whichever you want. The data are highly correlated.

I used the arithmetic mean - commonly referred to as the average, although you are right that I could have been more specific.

There are plenty of smart guys on both sides of the debate.  Why do you only believe the doomsayers?

Also, it is not dishonest for me to say the world has not warmed since 1998 because it simply hasn&#039;t.  April 2009 was 0.09C above the 30 year average - cooler than it was in October 1979, for example.  So where is this global warming?  If the world is really going to be, say, 5C warmer by 2100 then wouldn&#039;t we be seeing more warming than this?

The world is refusing to warm and the global warming hypothesis is looking weaker with every month of new temperature data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen Lunz:  On what possible basis do you assume a continual linear rise in temperatures?  What about the 1940-1970 cooling phase?  The world warms and cools naturally.  The current cooling (see data link below) seems to be related to the deep funk that the Sun is currently going through  - a grand solar minimum:</p>
<p>From <a href="http://www.wattsupwiththat.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wattsupwiththat.com</a>:  &#8220;A typical solar minimum lasts 485 days, based on an average of the last 10 solar minima. As of today we are at 638 spotless days in the current minimum. Also as of today, May 27th, 2009, there were no sunspots on 120 of this year’s (2009) 147 days to date (82%)&#8230;.  To find a year with more blank suns, you have to go all the way back to 1913, which had 311 spotless days (85%)&#8221;</p>
<p>And what evidence do you have that a 1C rise in temps will kill &#8220;hundreds of millions&#8221;?  The medieval and Roman warm periods were warmer than today and humanity did ok then.</p>
<p>Adam Rope:  It&#8217;s just not good enough to say that you&#8217;ll let the smart guys do all the thinking for you on this.</p>
<p>Check out the UAH temperature data for yourself:  <a href="http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/msu/t2lt/tltglhmam_5.2" rel="nofollow">http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/msu/t2lt/tltglhmam_5.2</a></p>
<p>UAH is thought to be the most accurate data set of global temperatures. I could have used RSS - whichever you want. The data are highly correlated.</p>
<p>I used the arithmetic mean - commonly referred to as the average, although you are right that I could have been more specific.</p>
<p>There are plenty of smart guys on both sides of the debate.  Why do you only believe the doomsayers?</p>
<p>Also, it is not dishonest for me to say the world has not warmed since 1998 because it simply hasn&#8217;t.  April 2009 was 0.09C above the 30 year average - cooler than it was in October 1979, for example.  So where is this global warming?  If the world is really going to be, say, 5C warmer by 2100 then wouldn&#8217;t we be seeing more warming than this?</p>
<p>The world is refusing to warm and the global warming hypothesis is looking weaker with every month of new temperature data.</p>
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