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	<title>Comments on: Parliamentary sin-bin: who makes the Tuckey hall of fame?</title>
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		<title>By: Evan Beaver</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/28/parliamentary-sin-bin-who-makes-the-tuckey-hall-of-fame/#comment-27538</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Beaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 22:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m fairly new to the ins-and-outs of the House in action, but it seems to me the Chair wields quite a bit of power. I guess it gets lessened by impact of the votes, which will normally fall along party lines. I bet there&#039;s been thousands of words written on the topic, so I might go read some of those now and let you know what I find out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m fairly new to the ins-and-outs of the House in action, but it seems to me the Chair wields quite a bit of power. I guess it gets lessened by impact of the votes, which will normally fall along party lines. I bet there&#8217;s been thousands of words written on the topic, so I might go read some of those now and let you know what I find out.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/28/parliamentary-sin-bin-who-makes-the-tuckey-hall-of-fame/#comment-27528</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 11:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If off his face Tuckey, big-mouth Baldwin and powder-puff Pyne stimulate interest in national political debate they&#039;re value for money.  Atlast the Liberals have shown a positive side to their presence!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If off his face Tuckey, big-mouth Baldwin and powder-puff Pyne stimulate interest in national political debate they&#8217;re value for money.  Atlast the Liberals have shown a positive side to their presence!</p>
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		<title>By: JamesK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JamesK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 08:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“The simple fact is that there is no ‘global warming’ of the kind claimed by the federal government and its cheerleaders in the green lobby&quot; said Dr David Jensen in April from whence presumably we get Bernard Keane&#039;s &#039;witty&#039; nicknaming.

David Janssen, BAppSc (RMIT), MSc (Melb), PhD (Monash) is the only real scientist in Parliament with both an M.Sc. and a PhD. and four years of work for the CSIRO as a research scientist.

In December, Dr Jensen also said in Parliament that many of the climate models used to predict regional rainfall, including the CSIRO models (relied upon by Ross Garnaut), are highly unreliable.
When Dr Jensen asked to table supporting information in the Parliament by way of charts and tables, the request was denied by the ALP. 

Dr Jensen is not a member of Liberal party front bench either.

So the one person in Parliament with the necessary training to reasonably make informed commentary on CSIRO and IPCC reports is effectively silenced and that silence is doubly enforced and his opinion belittled by journalists just like Bernard Keane here.

As P.J. O’Rourke wrote: “Some people will do anything to save the earth … except take a science course.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The simple fact is that there is no ‘global warming’ of the kind claimed by the federal government and its cheerleaders in the green lobby&#8221; said Dr David Jensen in April from whence presumably we get Bernard Keane&#8217;s &#8216;witty&#8217; nicknaming.</p>
<p>David Janssen, BAppSc (RMIT), MSc (Melb), PhD (Monash) is the only real scientist in Parliament with both an M.Sc. and a PhD. and four years of work for the CSIRO as a research scientist.</p>
<p>In December, Dr Jensen also said in Parliament that many of the climate models used to predict regional rainfall, including the CSIRO models (relied upon by Ross Garnaut), are highly unreliable.<br />
When Dr Jensen asked to table supporting information in the Parliament by way of charts and tables, the request was denied by the ALP. </p>
<p>Dr Jensen is not a member of Liberal party front bench either.</p>
<p>So the one person in Parliament with the necessary training to reasonably make informed commentary on CSIRO and IPCC reports is effectively silenced and that silence is doubly enforced and his opinion belittled by journalists just like Bernard Keane here.</p>
<p>As P.J. O’Rourke wrote: “Some people will do anything to save the earth … except take a science course.”</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Keane</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/28/parliamentary-sin-bin-who-makes-the-tuckey-hall-of-fame/#comment-27514</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard Keane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 07:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies to Dennis Jensen - we&#039;ve misspelt his name</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies to Dennis Jensen - we&#8217;ve misspelt his name</p>
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		<title>By: David Sanderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Sanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 07:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angry white men - you gotta love &#039;em. 

Alternatively, you could dismiss them as a bunch of immature jerks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angry white men - you gotta love &#8216;em. </p>
<p>Alternatively, you could dismiss them as a bunch of immature jerks.</p>
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		<title>By: David1</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/28/parliamentary-sin-bin-who-makes-the-tuckey-hall-of-fame/#comment-27497</link>
		<dc:creator>David1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 05:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After todays absurdities it is amazing the Speaker didn&#039;t have half the Opposition sin binned. Rudd has been goading them all week and today they took the bait, totally. That prat Pyne showed just how childish and immature he is, with Hockey, a presumed aspiring leader acting like a moron. Rudd completely diverted the Opposition attack on the budget papers to ensuring the rabble merely got entangled in points of order and discussions (arguements!!) with the chair, and they were never going to win of course. Got to hand it to the PM he is a cunning wee chap, sneaky but cunning. It was interesting to see the looks on the faces of some of the older Lib and Nat party members during the childish antics, they were decidedly not amused. The Government are not angels and certainly enjoy themselves but after 12 years copping it in Opposition, the payback is more evident than ever. None enjoying it more than PM Rudd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After todays absurdities it is amazing the Speaker didn&#8217;t have half the Opposition sin binned. Rudd has been goading them all week and today they took the bait, totally. That prat Pyne showed just how childish and immature he is, with Hockey, a presumed aspiring leader acting like a moron. Rudd completely diverted the Opposition attack on the budget papers to ensuring the rabble merely got entangled in points of order and discussions (arguements!!) with the chair, and they were never going to win of course. Got to hand it to the PM he is a cunning wee chap, sneaky but cunning. It was interesting to see the looks on the faces of some of the older Lib and Nat party members during the childish antics, they were decidedly not amused. The Government are not angels and certainly enjoy themselves but after 12 years copping it in Opposition, the payback is more evident than ever. None enjoying it more than PM Rudd.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel B1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel B1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 04:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yah, go Adams! Get up there big-fella, you can show them a thing or two!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yah, go Adams! Get up there big-fella, you can show them a thing or two!</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Walker</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/28/parliamentary-sin-bin-who-makes-the-tuckey-hall-of-fame/#comment-27479</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 04:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps an in-house cheerleading squad would help our politicians aspire to new heights of bad behaviour</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps an in-house cheerleading squad would help our politicians aspire to new heights of bad behaviour</p>
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