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	<title>Comments on: North Korea&#8217;s nuclear threat explained</title>
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		<title>By: joekillian</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/28/crikey-clarifier-north-koreas-nuclear-threat-explained/#comment-29015</link>
		<dc:creator>joekillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anything that can fit into NKorean large size suitcase and shipped easily abroad should concern everyone - anywhere. Gee, what could be in the suitcase................. picture cultural relativistic lunatics everywhere scratching their noggins........................

chemical weapons!!! For sale, for hire, for NKorean entertainment, for use!

The payola they get for subduing (temporarily) their Nprogram goes straight into other WMD&#039;s - that are of course easier to sell on the world market. 

Could it be that there is a bit of hoodwinking going on? Nukes could be a smokescreen. Time to get on the floor folks, underneath the smoke and have a look around. Conversely, liberal lunatics, stand tall and choke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything that can fit into NKorean large size suitcase and shipped easily abroad should concern everyone - anywhere. Gee, what could be in the suitcase&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. picture cultural relativistic lunatics everywhere scratching their noggins&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>chemical weapons!!! For sale, for hire, for NKorean entertainment, for use!</p>
<p>The payola they get for subduing (temporarily) their Nprogram goes straight into other WMD&#8217;s - that are of course easier to sell on the world market. </p>
<p>Could it be that there is a bit of hoodwinking going on? Nukes could be a smokescreen. Time to get on the floor folks, underneath the smoke and have a look around. Conversely, liberal lunatics, stand tall and choke.</p>
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		<title>By: Scoogsy</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/28/crikey-clarifier-north-koreas-nuclear-threat-explained/#comment-27648</link>
		<dc:creator>Scoogsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 06:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, David and Chris, you guys crack me up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, David and Chris, you guys crack me up!</p>
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		<title>By: Scoogsy</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/28/crikey-clarifier-north-koreas-nuclear-threat-explained/#comment-27647</link>
		<dc:creator>Scoogsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 06:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really good interview.

Straight analysis without the fear mongering or unnecessary stabs at either side.

Keep it up Crikey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really good interview.</p>
<p>Straight analysis without the fear mongering or unnecessary stabs at either side.</p>
<p>Keep it up Crikey</p>
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		<title>By: Joal</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/28/crikey-clarifier-north-koreas-nuclear-threat-explained/#comment-27594</link>
		<dc:creator>Joal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 05:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you know that the ASF* has been plotting for months now to overthrow First Dog? True story.

Conspiricies do exist, you know.

* Australian Squid Front</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you know that the ASF* has been plotting for months now to overthrow First Dog? True story.</p>
<p>Conspiricies do exist, you know.</p>
<p>* Australian Squid Front</p>
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		<title>By: David Sanderson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/28/crikey-clarifier-north-koreas-nuclear-threat-explained/#comment-27550</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 02:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asserting that Obama spent a million hiding his birth certificate is obviously not evidence at all. There is, of course, no such evidence.

I like the bit about Obama&#039;s &quot;live birth&quot;. That&#039;s the kind of birth we all should aim for. If  I was Obama I wouldn&#039;t bother hiding my &quot;dead birth&quot; certificate. I&#039;d leave it dead and buried if I were him. 

The rest of  Christopher&#039;s post makes little sense at all and reveals his mental state to be more impaired than I expected so I will cut the correspondence at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asserting that Obama spent a million hiding his birth certificate is obviously not evidence at all. There is, of course, no such evidence.</p>
<p>I like the bit about Obama&#8217;s &#8220;live birth&#8221;. That&#8217;s the kind of birth we all should aim for. If  I was Obama I wouldn&#8217;t bother hiding my &#8220;dead birth&#8221; certificate. I&#8217;d leave it dead and buried if I were him. </p>
<p>The rest of  Christopher&#8217;s post makes little sense at all and reveals his mental state to be more impaired than I expected so I will cut the correspondence at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: christophertyne</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/28/crikey-clarifier-north-koreas-nuclear-threat-explained/#comment-27548</link>
		<dc:creator>christophertyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 02:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off-topic (again) but abuse David is the province of the out-argued.  Explain why someone would spend $AUD1,000,000 in legal fees to hide their certificate of live birth.  If you can&#039;t then accept there could be reasons you might find unpalatable.  Conspiracies do exist David, ask the people of Afghanistan, Iraq and Palestine just for starters.  While you and I sit in our homes and debate the niceties of these conspiracies people are suffering and dying from them every day.  I suppose the baby-faced Melbourne killer was involved in subterfuge when killing his opponents, not conspiracy.  FDR (and I) both disagree with you.  I&#039;ll leave it at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off-topic (again) but abuse David is the province of the out-argued.  Explain why someone would spend $AUD1,000,000 in legal fees to hide their certificate of live birth.  If you can&#8217;t then accept there could be reasons you might find unpalatable.  Conspiracies do exist David, ask the people of Afghanistan, Iraq and Palestine just for starters.  While you and I sit in our homes and debate the niceties of these conspiracies people are suffering and dying from them every day.  I suppose the baby-faced Melbourne killer was involved in subterfuge when killing his opponents, not conspiracy.  FDR (and I) both disagree with you.  I&#8217;ll leave it at that.</p>
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		<title>By: christophertyne</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/28/crikey-clarifier-north-koreas-nuclear-threat-explained/#comment-27544</link>
		<dc:creator>christophertyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 01:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David subterfuge involving multiple persons = conspiracy.  If NK bought weapons grade plutonium on the open market please inform us where.  As for the (off topic) certificate of live birth and why it is hidden, if you have a better version than that presented by others, please inform us of that as well.  Sitting on the sidelines yelling &quot;paranoid conspiracy theorists&quot; achieves nothing and plays into the hands of, ahem, paranoid conspiracy theorists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David subterfuge involving multiple persons = conspiracy.  If NK bought weapons grade plutonium on the open market please inform us where.  As for the (off topic) certificate of live birth and why it is hidden, if you have a better version than that presented by others, please inform us of that as well.  Sitting on the sidelines yelling &#8220;paranoid conspiracy theorists&#8221; achieves nothing and plays into the hands of, ahem, paranoid conspiracy theorists.</p>
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		<title>By: David Sanderson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/28/crikey-clarifier-north-koreas-nuclear-threat-explained/#comment-27543</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 00:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christopher, I think it is up to you, not me, to explain all the ins and outs of how, where and when Obama dished out a million to hide his birth certificate. This is far right loony stuff and it would be amusing to see your evidence.
As for the other matters you raise, there is certainly subterfuge involved but not of the kind that fits into paranoid conspiracy theories. If you have a conspiracy theory about how North Korea obtained plutonium why not present it here for the edification, or amusement, of all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher, I think it is up to you, not me, to explain all the ins and outs of how, where and when Obama dished out a million to hide his birth certificate. This is far right loony stuff and it would be amusing to see your evidence.<br />
As for the other matters you raise, there is certainly subterfuge involved but not of the kind that fits into paranoid conspiracy theories. If you have a conspiracy theory about how North Korea obtained plutonium why not present it here for the edification, or amusement, of all?</p>
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		<title>By: christophertyne</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/28/crikey-clarifier-north-koreas-nuclear-threat-explained/#comment-27542</link>
		<dc:creator>christophertyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 00:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again off topic, but perhaps David could inform us how WMDs existed in Iraq when they, ahem, didn&#039;t.  Couldn&#039;t possibly have been by conspiracy, or how NK got the weapons grade plutonium to make a bomb, by conspiracy?  Naw, probably just fell off the back of a truck.  As for Obama, spending over $1,000,000 to hide your birth certificate, well I&#039;ll let David explain that one.  Looneys are are not just on the left or right, but decidedly in the centre as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again off topic, but perhaps David could inform us how WMDs existed in Iraq when they, ahem, didn&#8217;t.  Couldn&#8217;t possibly have been by conspiracy, or how NK got the weapons grade plutonium to make a bomb, by conspiracy?  Naw, probably just fell off the back of a truck.  As for Obama, spending over $1,000,000 to hide your birth certificate, well I&#8217;ll let David explain that one.  Looneys are are not just on the left or right, but decidedly in the centre as well.</p>
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		<title>By: David Sanderson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/28/crikey-clarifier-north-koreas-nuclear-threat-explained/#comment-27541</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 00:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t stop there Christopher. Tell us more about the  Obama-fake-birth-certificate  conspiracy. And while your at it why not tell the less illuminated about all the other conspiracy theories nestling in your brain?

We&#039;ll just sit back in amazement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t stop there Christopher. Tell us more about the  Obama-fake-birth-certificate  conspiracy. And while your at it why not tell the less illuminated about all the other conspiracy theories nestling in your brain?</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll just sit back in amazement.</p>
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		<title>By: christophertyne</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/28/crikey-clarifier-north-koreas-nuclear-threat-explained/#comment-27530</link>
		<dc:creator>christophertyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 12:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off topic I know, but Sanderson is one of those who believe conspiracies don&#039;t exist, something the 9/11 victims and their relatives would, I am sure, beg to differ with.  The issue of NK remains, less a threat to world peace than Israel&#039;s nukes and in fact the current situation in Georgia (no nukes).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic I know, but Sanderson is one of those who believe conspiracies don&#8217;t exist, something the 9/11 victims and their relatives would, I am sure, beg to differ with.  The issue of NK remains, less a threat to world peace than Israel&#8217;s nukes and in fact the current situation in Georgia (no nukes).</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/28/crikey-clarifier-north-koreas-nuclear-threat-explained/#comment-27522</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 09:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*****Obama-fake-birth-certificate ‘theory’*****

hehehe...he been groomed for this job since mumma was a baby
how come there been so many hollywood movies starring a black american presidant over the last 15 years?/?morgan freeman and there several ovthers you know     
have we been conditioned to expect one?//?

hehehehe....wisdom is knowing dat the Unseen Hand always controls both sides of the arguwement</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*****Obama-fake-birth-certificate ‘theory’*****</p>
<p>hehehe&#8230;he been groomed for this job since mumma was a baby<br />
how come there been so many hollywood movies starring a black american presidant over the last 15 years?/?morgan freeman and there several ovthers you know<br />
have we been conditioned to expect one?//?</p>
<p>hehehehe&#8230;.wisdom is knowing dat the Unseen Hand always controls both sides of the arguwement</p>
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		<title>By: David Sanderson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/28/crikey-clarifier-north-koreas-nuclear-threat-explained/#comment-27517</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 08:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyne is one of those confused, conspiracy theory types who are not really sure if they are left or right or just plain loony. For example, his support of the Obama-fake-birth-certificate &#039;theory&#039; is a classic trope of the loony American right. 

As has often been observed the loony left and the loony right have more in common with each other than they do with real world politics. They provide a Balance of Error and little else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyne is one of those confused, conspiracy theory types who are not really sure if they are left or right or just plain loony. For example, his support of the Obama-fake-birth-certificate &#8216;theory&#8217; is a classic trope of the loony American right. </p>
<p>As has often been observed the loony left and the loony right have more in common with each other than they do with real world politics. They provide a Balance of Error and little else.</p>
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		<title>By: christophertyne</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/28/crikey-clarifier-north-koreas-nuclear-threat-explained/#comment-27516</link>
		<dc:creator>christophertyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 07:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The looney centre (Sanderson) has, as usual, nothing to contribute.  I don&#039;t know why they bother!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The looney centre (Sanderson) has, as usual, nothing to contribute.  I don&#8217;t know why they bother!</p>
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		<title>By: David Sanderson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/28/crikey-clarifier-north-koreas-nuclear-threat-explained/#comment-27502</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 06:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A post from the loony right (Bursill) and another from the loony left (Tyne). Shows some sort of balance, I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A post from the loony right (Bursill) and another from the loony left (Tyne). Shows some sort of balance, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: christophertyne</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/28/crikey-clarifier-north-koreas-nuclear-threat-explained/#comment-27488</link>
		<dc:creator>christophertyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 05:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally a refreshing view on North Korea.  Can a country with a land-based armed forces threaten Australia?  Of course not.  Only Obama, if his volte-face on internal security and if his real birth certificate doesn&#039;t surface, can finally end the Korean war.  Yep, it&#039;s still on, we simply have an armistice, no peace treaty.  Why, because he will treat the NK&#039;s with respect rather than a disobedient child in need of punishment.  The greatest danger comes from those who underestimate China&#039;s support for NK.  This politically unreconstructed totalitarian state will not stand aside and allow the only state in the world prepared to sacrifice itself for China to be seriously threatened.  Australia&#039;s bellicose pronouncements would be better aimed at Burma or Israel, where true oppression and genocide are occuring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally a refreshing view on North Korea.  Can a country with a land-based armed forces threaten Australia?  Of course not.  Only Obama, if his volte-face on internal security and if his real birth certificate doesn&#8217;t surface, can finally end the Korean war.  Yep, it&#8217;s still on, we simply have an armistice, no peace treaty.  Why, because he will treat the NK&#8217;s with respect rather than a disobedient child in need of punishment.  The greatest danger comes from those who underestimate China&#8217;s support for NK.  This politically unreconstructed totalitarian state will not stand aside and allow the only state in the world prepared to sacrifice itself for China to be seriously threatened.  Australia&#8217;s bellicose pronouncements would be better aimed at Burma or Israel, where true oppression and genocide are occuring.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie Bursill</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/28/crikey-clarifier-north-koreas-nuclear-threat-explained/#comment-27481</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie Bursill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 04:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see this threat as far more real than any from Iraq or Iran. Bomb the crap out of them and end this bullshit.
They can&#039;t feed themselves so how are they going to do anything other than swarm down to the boarder with the south and starve to death there.
Find out where Dear Leader is and give him a late birthday present from Unca Sam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see this threat as far more real than any from Iraq or Iran. Bomb the crap out of them and end this bullshit.<br />
They can&#8217;t feed themselves so how are they going to do anything other than swarm down to the boarder with the south and starve to death there.<br />
Find out where Dear Leader is and give him a late birthday present from Unca Sam.</p>
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