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		<title>By: Christine Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/26/racist-who-us-si-senor/#comment-27475</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 03:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether Trujillo was born in the US or in Ireland, the guy LOOKS Mexican. If you cartooned him wearing a Russian ushanka, Chinese mandarin cap or a Queens guard bearskin with plumes he&#039;d still LOOK like a Mexican, in disguise.  I&#039;m surprised the guy didn&#039;t take more offence at Denver&#039;s Rocky Mountain News when it printed &quot;The rotten deal Solomon Trujillo made with the devil is the worst in the history of the telecommunications industry&quot; . Perhaps he&#039;s forgotten the acrimonious send off he got from his own country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether Trujillo was born in the US or in Ireland, the guy LOOKS Mexican. If you cartooned him wearing a Russian ushanka, Chinese mandarin cap or a Queens guard bearskin with plumes he&#8217;d still LOOK like a Mexican, in disguise.  I&#8217;m surprised the guy didn&#8217;t take more offence at Denver&#8217;s Rocky Mountain News when it printed &#8220;The rotten deal Solomon Trujillo made with the devil is the worst in the history of the telecommunications industry&#8221; . Perhaps he&#8217;s forgotten the acrimonious send off he got from his own country.</p>
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		<title>By: David Sanderson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/26/racist-who-us-si-senor/#comment-27378</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 22:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The SMH is in damage control this morning, including a front age opinion piece by the business editor. The major argument is that Telstra ran xenophobic marketing campaigns against Optus. However, saying &quot;he did it too&quot; has never been a strong argument, unless you are a ten year old boy, and there is a difference between xenophobic marketing and personal racial slurs (or at least derogatory implications).

To Peter Cox: you should try reading a little more carefully before you go off on a foolish attack. I did not say that the &#039;amigos&#039; business was tiresome for Trujillo. I said that I found it tiresome, as  a reader of the Herald, to have its journalists constantly harping on it at the expense of more insightful analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The SMH is in damage control this morning, including a front age opinion piece by the business editor. The major argument is that Telstra ran xenophobic marketing campaigns against Optus. However, saying &#8220;he did it too&#8221; has never been a strong argument, unless you are a ten year old boy, and there is a difference between xenophobic marketing and personal racial slurs (or at least derogatory implications).</p>
<p>To Peter Cox: you should try reading a little more carefully before you go off on a foolish attack. I did not say that the &#8216;amigos&#8217; business was tiresome for Trujillo. I said that I found it tiresome, as  a reader of the Herald, to have its journalists constantly harping on it at the expense of more insightful analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Cox</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/26/racist-who-us-si-senor/#comment-27372</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 15:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Mr Sanderson: 
Tiresome? What&#039;s tiresome about collecting a swag like ~?$34M +?+?+?+? And the rest.

Seems like paradise to me.

&quot;Tiresome&quot;? What&#039;s tiresome about being  the sometime  head of Telstra, our quasi-monopoly telco, &amp; being the occasional - very occasional!!@*(&amp;%#!- though allegedly Australian-resident CEO) due to all those &#039;essential&#039;&#039;? trips back to the US? How much of Telstra&#039;s business is done in the US??? With the Republican Party?) and now trying to trash the reputation of the dills who hired you? Surely Mr Trujillo now has another game he&#039;s playing? Redemption, perhaps??

Must now seem like a fun game to Sol, whom I have heard used the &quot;amigos&quot; label within Telstra for himself &amp; the men he knew &amp; hired as confidants &amp; &quot;had to have at whatever price, because they&#039;re so good&quot; (?I presume). Now, to try to rescue his reputation after he&#039;s left the business &amp; the country (again)? Doesn&#039;t seem to work in anyone&#039;s interests, apart from his &amp; his mates&#039;.

When he was hired for the job, I recollect I read he&#039;d just garnered something like USD60M for the (apparently unfortunate, to be polite) telco job he&#039;d just been involved with in the US. 

However, one mustn&#039;t judge except on the performance one sees. In my opinion, that was *!*!*@ dreadful.  

Being in charge of a company which pays you a rich salary while you&#039;re apparently bent on trashing the company&#039;s relationship with the Federal Government which controls the fate of your business, then in the year you&#039;re leaving after you&#039;ve seen the shareholder&#039;s value plummet by ~17B during your reign collecting a failure bonus of ?$34M, does not seem to be performance that&#039;s worth trumpeting. 

Most people would LOVE to have that sort of payout for stuffing up, but perhaps Mr Trujillow &amp; Mr Evans are convinced the upper levels of business work to different rules. It seems, from observation, that perhaps that particular situation might possibly be changing in Australia, but only if the major shareholding companies&#039; managements start working solely for the interests of their own shareholders.

The Brit interviewer [Racism alert!! Blatant!!!], Mr Evans, must surely be acquainted with the works of the great &amp; good extolled CEOs of the most recently publicised banks in Britain, formerly known as Great. That did not seem to be of any concern to Mr Evans, because he did not appear to know of any connection between Mr Trujillo&#039;s performance as Telstra CEO  and what has actually happened. 

Of course, all of that Telstra stuff was in &quot;Australia, a land of involuntary immigrants&quot;. And therefore of no consequence, except for rubbishing. 

Racism? Heavens no!! Truth!! It must be truth, because a he, a Pom, said so!!

Perhaps Mr Steve Evans would be able to answer honestly to: &quot;Who set you up,  and what impelled you, to ask loaded questions that served the interviewee&#039;s apparent purpose so well?&quot; Or &quot;Do you really want to be a &#039;shock jock&#039; , or perhaps to get a job with Fox &#039;News&#039; &quot;??

If the latter, we have a Mr Jones who could give you invaluable lessons.

Mr Evans would do well to understand a difficult fact: there are at least some Australians - especially Telstra shareholders - who don&#039;t in general dislike people because of their background (there are of course exceptions, as in any land, including his - and Sol&#039;s). 

However, people from any land are often particularly unhappy about those who rip the shareholders off &amp; exit stage left with bags of loot, then slag off from a safe distance.

Brits have a rich history of such folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Mr Sanderson:<br />
Tiresome? What&#8217;s tiresome about collecting a swag like ~?$34M +?+?+?+? And the rest.</p>
<p>Seems like paradise to me.</p>
<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>Tiresome&#8221;? What&#8217;s tiresome about being  the sometime  head of Telstra, our quasi-monopoly telco, &amp; being the occasional - very occasional!!@*(&amp;%#!- though allegedly Australian-resident CEO) due to all those &#8216;essential&#8221;? trips back to the US? How much of Telstra&#8217;s business is done in the US??? With the Republican Party?) and now trying to trash the reputation of the dills who hired you? Surely Mr Trujillo now has another game he&#8217;s playing? Redemption, perhaps??</p>
<p>Must now seem like a fun game to Sol, whom I have heard used the &#8220;amigos&#8221; label within Telstra for himself &amp; the men he knew &amp; hired as confidants &amp; &#8220;had to have at whatever price, because they&#8217;re so good&#8221; (?I presume). Now, to try to rescue his reputation after he&#8217;s left the business &amp; the country (again)? Doesn&#8217;t seem to work in anyone&#8217;s interests, apart from his &amp; his mates&#8217;.</p>
<p>When he was hired for the job, I recollect I read he&#8217;d just garnered something like USD60M for the (apparently unfortunate, to be polite) telco job he&#8217;d just been involved with in the US. </p>
<p>However, one mustn&#8217;t judge except on the performance one sees. In my opinion, that was *!*!*@ dreadful.  </p>
<p>Being in charge of a company which pays you a rich salary while you&#8217;re apparently bent on trashing the company&#8217;s relationship with the Federal Government which controls the fate of your business, then in the year you&#8217;re leaving after you&#8217;ve seen the shareholder&#8217;s value plummet by ~17B during your reign collecting a failure bonus of ?$34M, does not seem to be performance that&#8217;s worth trumpeting. </p>
<p>Most people would LOVE to have that sort of payout for stuffing up, but perhaps Mr Trujillow &amp; Mr Evans are convinced the upper levels of business work to different rules. It seems, from observation, that perhaps that particular situation might possibly be changing in Australia, but only if the major shareholding companies&#8217; managements start working solely for the interests of their own shareholders.</p>
<p>The Brit interviewer [Racism alert!! Blatant!!!], Mr Evans, must surely be acquainted with the works of the great &amp; good extolled CEOs of the most recently publicised banks in Britain, formerly known as Great. That did not seem to be of any concern to Mr Evans, because he did not appear to know of any connection between Mr Trujillo&#8217;s performance as Telstra CEO  and what has actually happened. </p>
<p>Of course, all of that Telstra stuff was in &#8220;Australia, a land of involuntary immigrants&#8221;. And therefore of no consequence, except for rubbishing. </p>
<p>Racism? Heavens no!! Truth!! It must be truth, because a he, a Pom, said so!!</p>
<p>Perhaps Mr Steve Evans would be able to answer honestly to: &#8220;Who set you up,  and what impelled you, to ask loaded questions that served the interviewee&#8217;s apparent purpose so well?&#8221; Or &#8220;Do you really want to be a &#8216;shock jock&#8217; , or perhaps to get a job with Fox &#8216;News&#8217; &#8220;??</p>
<p>If the latter, we have a Mr Jones who could give you invaluable lessons.</p>
<p>Mr Evans would do well to understand a difficult fact: there are at least some Australians - especially Telstra shareholders - who don&#8217;t in general dislike people because of their background (there are of course exceptions, as in any land, including his - and Sol&#8217;s). </p>
<p>However, people from any land are often particularly unhappy about those who rip the shareholders off &amp; exit stage left with bags of loot, then slag off from a safe distance.</p>
<p>Brits have a rich history of such folks.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Thompson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/26/racist-who-us-si-senor/#comment-27347</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 08:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you seen Alan Joyce depicted any other way?</description>
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		<title>By: Christian Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/26/racist-who-us-si-senor/#comment-27346</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 08:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m yet to see Alan Joyce the Irishman depicted with leprechauns, pints of guiness and shamrocks.

Perhaps its just not as amusing as Trujillo and his &quot;3 ammigo&#039;s&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m yet to see Alan Joyce the Irishman depicted with leprechauns, pints of guiness and shamrocks.</p>
<p>Perhaps its just not as amusing as Trujillo and his &#8220;3 ammigo&#8217;s&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Thompson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/26/racist-who-us-si-senor/#comment-27343</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 07:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depends really, Maybe if he was of Chinese descent, cartoonists could opt for a Tienanmen square motif, &#039;Sol&#039; in tank Australian consumer standing in front.

Would that cause a stir?

If I had just been given such a golden handshake and someone drawing me riding a donkey out of town was the most of my worries, I&#039;d count myself fairly lucky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depends really, Maybe if he was of Chinese descent, cartoonists could opt for a Tienanmen square motif, &#8216;Sol&#8217; in tank Australian consumer standing in front.</p>
<p>Would that cause a stir?</p>
<p>If I had just been given such a golden handshake and someone drawing me riding a donkey out of town was the most of my worries, I&#8217;d count myself fairly lucky.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie Black</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/26/racist-who-us-si-senor/#comment-27337</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophie Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 07:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s an interesting issue re legitimate v non legitimate parodying of people&#039;s backgrounds though Edward... There&#039;s no way cartoonists would lampoon Trujillo if he was of Asian or African descent... would they? Maybe we should quiz some cartoonists on the issue. Mmm. *idea brewing*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an interesting issue re legitimate v non legitimate parodying of people&#8217;s backgrounds though Edward&#8230; There&#8217;s no way cartoonists would lampoon Trujillo if he was of Asian or African descent&#8230; would they? Maybe we should quiz some cartoonists on the issue. Mmm. *idea brewing*</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 07:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such a non-issue.

You can bet your bottom dollar that if it was a question of Irish descent and leprechaun cartoons or Danish and Vikings or Even a Kiwi with a sheep we wouldn&#039;t be reading any of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such a non-issue.</p>
<p>You can bet your bottom dollar that if it was a question of Irish descent and leprechaun cartoons or Danish and Vikings or Even a Kiwi with a sheep we wouldn&#8217;t be reading any of this.</p>
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		<title>By: David Sanderson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/26/racist-who-us-si-senor/#comment-27306</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 05:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While not a Trujillo fan I did find the focus on his Hispanic background in, for example, the business pages of the SMH a little tiresome. Whether intended or not there was an inference that could be drawn that someone of this background automatically lacked the necessary personal qualities to be the CEO of a large corporation. 

The whole &#039;amigos&#039; business was pretty juvenile really and tended to discredit the journalists involved and indicate that they were the ones not up to the job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While not a Trujillo fan I did find the focus on his Hispanic background in, for example, the business pages of the SMH a little tiresome. Whether intended or not there was an inference that could be drawn that someone of this background automatically lacked the necessary personal qualities to be the CEO of a large corporation. </p>
<p>The whole &#8216;amigos&#8217; business was pretty juvenile really and tended to discredit the journalists involved and indicate that they were the ones not up to the job.</p>
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