Comments on: Rumsfeld and Cheney: torture as self-justification

By: Jean Leeson

Jean Leeson — Tue, 19 May 2009 04:15:19 +0000

Torture is barbaric & should not be used in any manner by so-called civilised nations. More over it should not be secretly condoned or pushed under the carpet by so-called civilised societies. We are better than this.
Barak Obama’s administration will be tainted by not instigating a full enquiry, with the view to prosecution of the people who instigated this terrible crime. The Americans weren’t long at setting up War crime tribunals after the war to bring prominent Nazi’s to trial & expose their wrong doing - what is the difference now.

By: Robert Bollard

Robert Bollard — Mon, 18 May 2009 13:45:42 +0000

The torture wasn’t the apocalypse - merely an apocalyptic means of justifying that. The trashing of Fallujah - raining phosphorus bombs on those too poor or weak to leave the city. The descent of Baghdadin into an orgy of ethic cleansing in which the most active cleansers were armed and trained by the US. The death of probably close on a million by now - that’s apocalpse. The torture stuff is the icing on the cake, albeit an icing that had a more than decorative function.

By: Charles Richardson

Charles Richardson — Mon, 18 May 2009 10:21:45 +0000

Good story, Jeff. One query though: you say that Rumsfeld & Cheney “launched an apocalyptic war and then needed some basis to justify it.” My understanding of the evidence so far, though, is that most of the torture happened before the war - they were trying to obtain the justification in advance. More like a premeditated design than a desperate effort to cover their tracks.

By: Leslie Bursill

Leslie Bursill — Mon, 18 May 2009 06:33:04 +0000

Ghastly, and they will get away with it. Barak doesn’t appear to relish dealing with these criminals. Just as our Government won’t deal with the Australian Triumvirate who approved torture and war.

By: Andrew Pengilley

Andrew Pengilley — Mon, 18 May 2009 05:03:35 +0000

It is difficult to explain the actions of the Bush Whitehouse without the understanding that they felt the end of the world was generally a good thing.