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	<title>Comments on: Time for Turnbull to rescue his party</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/14/now-is-the-time-for-turnbull-to-come-to-the-aid-of-his-party/#comment-26614</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 23:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JamesK can interpret whatever he heard Truffles say whichever way he likes. But the ABC and other media outlets heard the Opposition leader say he would oppose the means testing of Medicare rebates preferring a 12.5% increase on cigarette taxes. Perhaps reading the words will fill in the gaps.  
Instead of means testing the rebate, Mr Turnbull has called for an increase on cigarette taxes by 12.5 per cent, which he says is about three cents per cigarette.

&quot;Raise $1.9 billion by making health more expensive and putting more pressure on the public hospital system, or by adding about three cents more to the price of a cigarette and taking pressure off the public health system.&quot;

Apology please Mr K. 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/05/14/2570901.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JamesK can interpret whatever he heard Truffles say whichever way he likes. But the ABC and other media outlets heard the Opposition leader say he would oppose the means testing of Medicare rebates preferring a 12.5% increase on cigarette taxes. Perhaps reading the words will fill in the gaps.<br />
Instead of means testing the rebate, Mr Turnbull has called for an increase on cigarette taxes by 12.5 per cent, which he says is about three cents per cigarette.</p>
<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>Raise $1.9 billion by making health more expensive and putting more pressure on the public hospital system, or by adding about three cents more to the price of a cigarette and taking pressure off the public health system.&#8221;</p>
<p>Apology please Mr K. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/05/14/2570901.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/05/14/2570901.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Waugh</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/14/now-is-the-time-for-turnbull-to-come-to-the-aid-of-his-party/#comment-26612</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Waugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two cheers for Truffles! By not sharing his map and compass with the Prime Minister -- particularly in the uncharted waters of this economic crisis -- he is truly putting Queen and country first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two cheers for Truffles! By not sharing his map and compass with the Prime Minister&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;particularly in the uncharted waters of this economic crisis&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;he is truly putting Queen and country first.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesK</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/14/now-is-the-time-for-turnbull-to-come-to-the-aid-of-his-party/#comment-26610</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris Johnson listened to a speech but it was apparently an imaginary one between her ears. 

It certainly was not Malcolm Turnbull&#039;s budget reply speech tonight.

Turnbull&#039;s suggested tobacco excise was, he clearly explained, by way of offsetting the monies the Government would fail to save by the Coalition&#039;s successful blocking of the Health Insurance Rebate revocation component of the Budget.

It specifically was not &quot;on how to offset a government deficit in complex fiscal times&quot; as Chris Johnson dishonestly suggested. 

Indeed Turnbull specifically pointed to the inadequacy of Labor saying: &quot;None of the savings measures in this Budget will make, by themselves, a material difference to the deficit&quot; .....let alone a 3c a cigarette tax. 

Futhermore he said he would not provide &quot;Labor with the policy alternatives, with the map and compass, that will get them out of the mess in which they find themselves&quot;.

Chis routinely subscribes to the perverse and duplicitous leftist school which almost disdainfully articulates:  &#039;Don&#039;t let the truth get in the way of a good going prejudice&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Johnson listened to a speech but it was apparently an imaginary one between her ears. </p>
<p>It certainly was not Malcolm Turnbull&#8217;s budget reply speech tonight.</p>
<p>Turnbull&#8217;s suggested tobacco excise was, he clearly explained, by way of offsetting the monies the Government would fail to save by the Coalition&#8217;s successful blocking of the Health Insurance Rebate revocation component of the Budget.</p>
<p>It specifically was not &#8220;on how to offset a government deficit in complex fiscal times&#8221; as Chris Johnson dishonestly suggested. </p>
<p>Indeed Turnbull specifically pointed to the inadequacy of Labor saying: &#8220;None of the savings measures in this Budget will make, by themselves, a material difference to the deficit&#8221; &#8230;..let alone a 3c a cigarette tax. </p>
<p>Futhermore he said he would not provide &#8220;Labor with the policy alternatives, with the map and compass, that will get them out of the mess in which they find themselves&#8221;.</p>
<p>Chis routinely subscribes to the perverse and duplicitous leftist school which almost disdainfully articulates:  &#8216;Don&#8217;t let the truth get in the way of a good going prejudice&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/14/now-is-the-time-for-turnbull-to-come-to-the-aid-of-his-party/#comment-26602</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 11:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well! Malcom really delivered a nation-awakening statement. No doubt as we&#039;re dozing News Limited will beaver away to mould his bits and pieces effort into an impact statement for the morning dailies. Increased cig prices certain to headline Turnbull&#039;s attack on how to offset a government deficit in complex fiscal times. Such sophisticated fiscal management in highly complex times of a world monetary meltdown has never been more welcome. What a shame Malcolm and co can&#039;t form a Coalition let alone government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well! Malcom really delivered a nation-awakening statement. No doubt as we&#8217;re dozing News Limited will beaver away to mould his bits and pieces effort into an impact statement for the morning dailies. Increased cig prices certain to headline Turnbull&#8217;s attack on how to offset a government deficit in complex fiscal times. Such sophisticated fiscal management in highly complex times of a world monetary meltdown has never been more welcome. What a shame Malcolm and co can&#8217;t form a Coalition let alone government.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JamesK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 09:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Venise, I love the ALP and what it has historically stood for. 

I didn&#039;t hate Rudd when he first became PM as you know. I do now, however. 

My post was critical of the Canberra press gallery including Bernard Keane rather than Labor.

I know Kev 07 declared there was not a cigarette paper’s difference between his “unapologetically” conservative economic policies and those of Mr Howard. 

Unfortunately the Canberra commentariat with their collective heads buried in the sand don&#039;t show a similarly loose definition of intimacy for their  &#039;chuminess&#039; with Kev 57.

There is certainly much more than a cigarette paper&#039;s difference between the media and the primary interest of the nation.

I don&#039;t care about Mr Rudd’s &#039;ideology&#039; but his patent insane decision making will unnecessarily cause much suffering among his fellow Australians. 

Not that he gives a toss. He puts himself first, perhaps a contorted view of the ALP second and the nation a very long way last.

Your future is being compromised. Wake up. Volunteer for Pete! 
Your local Prince needs you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Venise, I love the ALP and what it has historically stood for. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t hate Rudd when he first became PM as you know. I do now, however. </p>
<p>My post was critical of the Canberra press gallery including Bernard Keane rather than Labor.</p>
<p>I know Kev 07 declared there was not a cigarette paper’s difference between his “unapologetically” conservative economic policies and those of Mr Howard. </p>
<p>Unfortunately the Canberra commentariat with their collective heads buried in the sand don&#8217;t show a similarly loose definition of intimacy for their  &#8216;chuminess&#8217; with Kev 57.</p>
<p>There is certainly much more than a cigarette paper&#8217;s difference between the media and the primary interest of the nation.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care about Mr Rudd’s &#8216;ideology&#8217; but his patent insane decision making will unnecessarily cause much suffering among his fellow Australians. </p>
<p>Not that he gives a toss. He puts himself first, perhaps a contorted view of the ALP second and the nation a very long way last.</p>
<p>Your future is being compromised. Wake up. Volunteer for Pete!<br />
Your local Prince needs you!</p>
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		<title>By: Oz</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/14/now-is-the-time-for-turnbull-to-come-to-the-aid-of-his-party/#comment-26595</link>
		<dc:creator>Oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 09:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well he&#039;s going to block (lol) the health insurance rebate means test and advocate an increase in cigarette tax (lol).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well he&#8217;s going to block (lol) the health insurance rebate means test and advocate an increase in cigarette tax (lol).</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/14/now-is-the-time-for-turnbull-to-come-to-the-aid-of-his-party/#comment-26591</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 08:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JamesK. I love it when you thrash around in your matted ochre cloak of hatred for the Labor Party. However, it saddens me to realize your agonized calls of hatred are achieving the opposite effect from the one you intended. No matter how foul is your perception of the Labor Party it&#039;s all a waste of your excellent writing talent to carry along on that line. Isn&#039;t there something in the tortured,  turgid prose of your christian bible? Something like &#039;before you point out other peoples&#039; defects, haul the log out of your own eye&#039;. You will know the correct quote.

The whole point JamesK, is the Liberal Party(?) equates to the entertaining sight of each member pulling in a different direction. They are not a party in the true sense of the word. They are a disunited rabble wondering why they are not on the front benches. And, if they haven&#039;t figured that out yet they are in deep sh-t.
They fail to be of help to the tragic/comic figure who was passed the poisoned chalice, and Malcolm Turnbull is brightly living up to his surname. Albeit with rows of pearly white teeth set in an undershot jaw, and an ability to talk ad infinitum. Note: I&#039;m not mocking the man&#039;s obvious brains, I merely regret his lack of political smarts.

Regrettably, I suffer from Althaeaophobia-one glimpse of Christopher Pyne and I immediately break out in hives. And he is but one of them.

BTW: I was at the local chemist when Peter the Putrid&#039;s PA came in on the morning after the budget and apart from much rolling of eyes wasn&#039;t prepared to say a thing? Odd!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JamesK. I love it when you thrash around in your matted ochre cloak of hatred for the Labor Party. However, it saddens me to realize your agonized calls of hatred are achieving the opposite effect from the one you intended. No matter how foul is your perception of the Labor Party it&#8217;s all a waste of your excellent writing talent to carry along on that line. Isn&#8217;t there something in the tortured,  turgid prose of your christian bible? Something like &#8216;before you point out other peoples&#8217; defects, haul the log out of your own eye&#8217;. You will know the correct quote.</p>
<p>The whole point JamesK, is the Liberal Party(?) equates to the entertaining sight of each member pulling in a different direction. They are not a party in the true sense of the word. They are a disunited rabble wondering why they are not on the front benches. And, if they haven&#8217;t figured that out yet they are in deep sh-t.<br />
They fail to be of help to the tragic/comic figure who was passed the poisoned chalice, and Malcolm Turnbull is brightly living up to his surname. Albeit with rows of pearly white teeth set in an undershot jaw, and an ability to talk ad infinitum. Note: I&#8217;m not mocking the man&#8217;s obvious brains, I merely regret his lack of political smarts.</p>
<p>Regrettably, I suffer from Althaeaophobia-one glimpse of Christopher Pyne and I immediately break out in hives. And he is but one of them.</p>
<p>BTW: I was at the local chemist when Peter the Putrid&#8217;s PA came in on the morning after the budget and apart from much rolling of eyes wasn&#8217;t prepared to say a thing? Odd!</p>
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		<title>By: joel23</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/14/now-is-the-time-for-turnbull-to-come-to-the-aid-of-his-party/#comment-26588</link>
		<dc:creator>joel23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 08:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, what tripe, MT has nothing to prove.

The onus is on our elected Government. Something that BK really has problems adjusting too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, what tripe, MT has nothing to prove.</p>
<p>The onus is on our elected Government. Something that BK really has problems adjusting too.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Herbert</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/14/now-is-the-time-for-turnbull-to-come-to-the-aid-of-his-party/#comment-26587</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Herbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 08:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice piece Bernard...balanced, thoughtful.....I enjoyed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice piece Bernard&#8230;balanced, thoughtful&#8230;..I enjoyed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/14/now-is-the-time-for-turnbull-to-come-to-the-aid-of-his-party/#comment-26580</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 07:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tonight Turnbull needs to make a full departure from the last 18-months of hackneyed snitchy scaremongering that&#039;s defined the conservatives as dyed in the wool denialists of current circumstances. As Obama said and no doubt our flame-throwing former Treasurer would agree, its time to put aside childish things - if only for the sake of democracy. No more ludicrous reasons as to why a nation should regret its choice at the last federal poll or that they&#039;d manage better a recession they had no hand in and didn&#039;t see coming. If he alludes to kids of the future with hump-backs caused by the weight of national debt or athletes left at the starting blocks with lead weights in their pockets he&#039;ll lose his credibility and leadership as he sends his party further down the popularity scale. If Malcolm steps outside the suffocating square surrounding the Opposition they&#039;ll not just turn a corner but send Costello packing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonight Turnbull needs to make a full departure from the last 18-months of hackneyed snitchy scaremongering that&#8217;s defined the conservatives as dyed in the wool denialists of current circumstances. As Obama said and no doubt our flame-throwing former Treasurer would agree, its time to put aside childish things - if only for the sake of democracy. No more ludicrous reasons as to why a nation should regret its choice at the last federal poll or that they&#8217;d manage better a recession they had no hand in and didn&#8217;t see coming. If he alludes to kids of the future with hump-backs caused by the weight of national debt or athletes left at the starting blocks with lead weights in their pockets he&#8217;ll lose his credibility and leadership as he sends his party further down the popularity scale. If Malcolm steps outside the suffocating square surrounding the Opposition they&#8217;ll not just turn a corner but send Costello packing.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesK</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/14/now-is-the-time-for-turnbull-to-come-to-the-aid-of-his-party/#comment-26576</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 06:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The majority of the Canberra press gallery mildly rebuked this  dishonest budget before turning to the &#039;weightier matter&#039; of  the &#039;problems&#039; with the Liberal party.......... but Bernard Keane of the &#039;independent&#039;, small and a supposedly proudly dissident Crikey actually nearly always toes the orthodox line....and it serves Kev 57 well doesn&#039;t it?

The budget after the next election will radically rewrite this one causing great pain. That will be true irrespective of which side wins. This laughable excuse for political commentary are all aware of it.

It doesn&#039;t even seem strange anymore.

Apparently Bernard believes that just repeating nonsense such as this often enough with an affected air of thoughtful earnestness whilst the punters go quietly in a numbing stupefaction to see their country commit a fiscal version of harikari (just like Japan did in the early 90&#039;s) will at least prevent John Howard governing again.

The Canberra press gallery having vilified Howard and lauded this loon can&#039;t quite bring themselves to acknowledge the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The majority of the Canberra press gallery mildly rebuked this  dishonest budget before turning to the &#8216;weightier matter&#8217; of  the &#8216;problems&#8217; with the Liberal party&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. but Bernard Keane of the &#8216;independent&#8217;, small and a supposedly proudly dissident Crikey actually nearly always toes the orthodox line&#8230;.and it serves Kev 57 well doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>The budget after the next election will radically rewrite this one causing great pain. That will be true irrespective of which side wins. This laughable excuse for political commentary are all aware of it.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t even seem strange anymore.</p>
<p>Apparently Bernard believes that just repeating nonsense such as this often enough with an affected air of thoughtful earnestness whilst the punters go quietly in a numbing stupefaction to see their country commit a fiscal version of harikari (just like Japan did in the early 90&#8217;s) will at least prevent John Howard governing again.</p>
<p>The Canberra press gallery having vilified Howard and lauded this loon can&#8217;t quite bring themselves to acknowledge the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: David1</title>
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		<dc:creator>David1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 05:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Turnbull also needs to show a lot more leadership if the shambles in the Parliament during question time today is an indication. Rudd, Swan, and co really know how to rev the rabble up and there are plenty taking the bait with the supposed Manager of Opposition business Pyne, acting like a spoilt brat. It has been a complete shambles, these days the PM only has to take a swipe, and bedlam breaks out. Interesting point made by Lindsay Tanner today. He suggests the Opposition have given them selves nicknames,such are the type of names he could not mention them in the House. What the hell is going on in the Liberal ranks? Ironbar Tuckey was at it again, more absurd points of order, looks as if the Speaker has given up, it was chaos in there today. Turnbull has a multitude of problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turnbull also needs to show a lot more leadership if the shambles in the Parliament during question time today is an indication. Rudd, Swan, and co really know how to rev the rabble up and there are plenty taking the bait with the supposed Manager of Opposition business Pyne, acting like a spoilt brat. It has been a complete shambles, these days the PM only has to take a swipe, and bedlam breaks out. Interesting point made by Lindsay Tanner today. He suggests the Opposition have given them selves nicknames,such are the type of names he could not mention them in the House. What the hell is going on in the Liberal ranks? Ironbar Tuckey was at it again, more absurd points of order, looks as if the Speaker has given up, it was chaos in there today. Turnbull has a multitude of problems.</p>
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