Comments on: Future of clean energy jobs in Senate’s hands http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/14/future-of-australian-clean-energy-jobs-and-profits-in-senate%e2%80%99s-hands/ now with extra source Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:27:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Bruce Messmer http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/14/future-of-australian-clean-energy-jobs-and-profits-in-senate%e2%80%99s-hands/#comment-26604 Bruce Messmer Thu, 14 May 2009 12:24:22 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=58334#comment-26604 Australia would be very foolish to embark on any form of ETS or whatever at this stage as there is so much uncertainty about what other developed nations will do. In Europe, Italy, Poland and Czechoslovakia are showing strong resistance whilst Germany is in two minds. In the USA, the following memo from the EPA was reported in the Wall Street Journal this week:- "The head of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency said Tuesday a finding that carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases are a public health danger won't necessarily lead to government regulation of emissions, an apparent about-face for the for the Obama administration." --Ian Talley, The Wall Street Journal, 12 May 2009 To say that other developed nations are waiting for Australia to give a lead is pure fantasy. If Australia jumps headlong into an ETS at this time, it may well end up as being like a shag on a rock. CONCLUSION : Any form of ETS should be at least deferred for six months, if not completely scrapped. Australia would be very foolish to embark on any form of ETS or whatever at this stage as there is so much uncertainty about what other developed nations will do. In Europe, Italy, Poland and Czechoslovakia are showing strong resistance whilst Germany is in two minds. In the USA, the following memo from the EPA was reported in the Wall Street Journal this week:-

“The head of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency said Tuesday a finding that carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases are a public health danger won’t necessarily lead to government regulation of emissions, an apparent about-face for the for the Obama administration.”
 — Ian Talley, The Wall Street Journal, 12 May 2009

To say that other developed nations are waiting for Australia to give a lead is pure
fantasy. If Australia jumps headlong into an ETS at this time, it may well end up as being like a shag on a rock.

CONCLUSION : Any form of ETS should be at least deferred for six months, if not completely scrapped.

]]> By: Roger Clifton http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/14/future-of-australian-clean-energy-jobs-and-profits-in-senate%e2%80%99s-hands/#comment-26599 Roger Clifton Thu, 14 May 2009 10:53:18 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=58334#comment-26599 Any emission increases the level of CO2 in the atmosphere. That's what an emission is. If we only ever reduce emissions, we will continue to increase pollution. Only eliminating emissions entirely can stabilise the level of CO2. Any emission increases the level of CO2 in the atmosphere. That’s what an emission is. If we only ever reduce emissions, we will continue to increase pollution. Only eliminating emissions entirely can stabilise the level of CO2.

]]> By: AR http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/14/future-of-australian-clean-energy-jobs-and-profits-in-senate%e2%80%99s-hands/#comment-26594 AR Thu, 14 May 2009 09:16:33 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=58334#comment-26594 Surely the point about 'green' jobs is the same as "alternative technology" 30 yrs ago - they employ orders of magniftude more people, without special training, in every village, hamlet or conurbation where someone knows the difference between Whitworth & SAE, or pine & eucalypt. People who, in the coming Crunch, will be out of a job in some multinational screwdriver, tax-holiday, write-off. When the shacks of Era Beach have PhV and solar hot water, the Big (Arse) End of town can drown in its own effluent. They were always surplus to reality and now that reality has administered a severe bite to the glutus maximae. Surely the point about ‘green’ jobs is the same as “alternative technology” 30 yrs ago - they employ orders of magniftude more people, without special training, in every village, hamlet or conurbation where someone knows the difference between Whitworth & SAE, or pine & eucalypt.
People who, in the coming Crunch, will be out of a job in some multinational screwdriver, tax-holiday, write-off.
When the shacks of Era Beach have PhV and solar hot water, the Big (Arse) End of town can drown in its own effluent. They were always surplus to reality and now that reality has administered a severe bite to the glutus maximae.

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