Comments on: Budget 09: fossil fuels exit-strategy mark one http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/13/budget-09-fossil-fuels-exit-strategy-mark-one/ now with extra source Sun, 12 Feb 2012 00:58:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Dan Cass http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/13/budget-09-fossil-fuels-exit-strategy-mark-one/#comment-26533 Dan Cass Wed, 13 May 2009 14:47:43 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=57996#comment-26533 Thanks for the comments guys. Stuart, I am happy to cause you mischief on carbon, any time! Roger, I nuclear is going nowhere fast and not just because there is no solution to hig level waste but because its too expensive and slow. (eg see http://tinyurl.com/oq26tp). The nuclear 'renaissance' campaign around 2006 discredited renewables and energy efficiency but luckily the dirt is washing off as people get more informed. And yes I agree we need to beware of gas presenting itself as clean green alternative. Thanks for the comments guys.

Stuart, I am happy to cause you mischief on carbon, any time!

Roger, I nuclear is going nowhere fast and not just because there is no solution to hig level waste but because its too expensive and slow. (eg see http://tinyurl.com/oq26tp).

The nuclear ‘renaissance’ campaign around 2006 discredited renewables and energy efficiency but luckily the dirt is washing off as people get more informed.

And yes I agree we need to beware of gas presenting itself as clean green alternative.

]]> By: Roger Clifton http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/13/budget-09-fossil-fuels-exit-strategy-mark-one/#comment-26530 Roger Clifton Wed, 13 May 2009 11:49:34 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=57996#comment-26530 There is no powerful "coal and nuclear lobby", although there are powerful coal and gas lobbies. The gas lobby goes to great lengths to dissociate itself from coal, although its methane is more destructive to the greenhouse than CO2. Visionaries for wind and solar should remember that nuclear, not gas, is the heavyweight ally in the process of decarbonising the economy. There is no powerful “coal and nuclear lobby”, although there are powerful coal and gas lobbies. The gas lobby goes to great lengths to dissociate itself from coal, although its methane is more destructive to the greenhouse than CO2. Visionaries for wind and solar should remember that nuclear, not gas, is the heavyweight ally in the process of decarbonising the economy.

]]> By: Stuart Moore http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/13/budget-09-fossil-fuels-exit-strategy-mark-one/#comment-26491 Stuart Moore Wed, 13 May 2009 05:15:22 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=57996#comment-26491 I am quite happy to speak up about how irrelevant carbon is in the global climate scenario and at the same time am happy to minimise 'real' pollution. Given that carbon is not a poison, or gross pollutant, and has an oxide form that has insignificant global temperature impact at current levels (and higher), your demonisation of carbon generally is but a mischief. "Clean coal" ought to be about removing the particulates and gaseous components that really matter - something ignored by the overreaction to carbon. I am but one whom does not wish to starve in a cold cave in the dark. I am quite happy to speak up about how irrelevant carbon is in the global climate scenario and at the same time am happy to minimise ‘real’ pollution. Given that carbon is not a poison, or gross pollutant, and has an oxide form that has insignificant global temperature impact at current levels (and higher), your demonisation of carbon generally is but a mischief. “Clean coal” ought to be about removing the particulates and gaseous components that really matter - something ignored by the overreaction to carbon. I am but one whom does not wish to starve in a cold cave in the dark.

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