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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/06/combet-fudging-the-carbon-tax-question/#comment-26199</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 05:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Jeff. You shouldn&#039;t have been so kind as to help me, because I&#039;ve got another question. What does imported mean? As in &#039;imported soon&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Jeff. You shouldn&#8217;t have been so kind as to help me, because I&#8217;ve got another question. What does imported mean? As in &#8216;imported soon&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/06/combet-fudging-the-carbon-tax-question/#comment-26197</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 05:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff: Finally sorted out how to work this website.
Yes, I was thinking this;  also how do I go about finding something I wrote about...let&#039;s think. Trout Fishing in Victoria&#039;s High Country, which I think I wrote somewhere between Jan &#039;08 and Mar 09. I know I wrote something about the subject but can&#039;t think of actual words and beyond going back to the archive section I haven&#039;t got a clue.
Well it isn&#039;t Trout fishing, it was horse-racing and it would have been written about six to eleven months ago. It concerned the criminal callousness of jumps racing. (I actually printed a copy of it so that&#039;s okay) But otherwise how would I run it to earth? 
If I didn&#039;t have a copy of this comment I wouldn&#039;t have a clue where to begin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff: Finally sorted out how to work this website.<br />
Yes, I was thinking this;  also how do I go about finding something I wrote about&#8230;let&#8217;s think. Trout Fishing in Victoria&#8217;s High Country, which I think I wrote somewhere between Jan &#8216;08 and Mar 09. I know I wrote something about the subject but can&#8217;t think of actual words and beyond going back to the archive section I haven&#8217;t got a clue.<br />
Well it isn&#8217;t Trout fishing, it was horse-racing and it would have been written about six to eleven months ago. It concerned the criminal callousness of jumps racing. (I actually printed a copy of it so that&#8217;s okay) But otherwise how would I run it to earth?<br />
If I didn&#8217;t have a copy of this comment I wouldn&#8217;t have a clue where to begin.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Waugh</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/06/combet-fudging-the-carbon-tax-question/#comment-26148</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Waugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 11:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Venise: There&#039;s no single spot on the website where you can list someone&#039;s comments, no. If you&#039;re concerned about the missing two weeks of comments from immediately before the site went up, they&#039;ll be imported soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Venise: There&#8217;s no single spot on the website where you can list someone&#8217;s comments, no. If you&#8217;re concerned about the missing two weeks of comments from immediately before the site went up, they&#8217;ll be imported soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/06/combet-fudging-the-carbon-tax-question/#comment-26139</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 09:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, I&#039;ve got one more question. Does Crikey keep a copy-somewhere out in the ethersphere-of one&#039;s comments?

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, I&#8217;ve got one more question. Does Crikey keep a copy-somewhere out in the ethersphere-of one&#8217;s comments?</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/06/combet-fudging-the-carbon-tax-question/#comment-26138</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 09:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff: I&#039;ve been on the go like you wouldn&#039;t believe. Yes, It&#039;s just the way I used to do it before the change. I think my problem has been that the author&#039;s name isn&#039;t as obvious as it was before. Not being a patient soul, I click onto politics and can&#039;t find the name. Then I do what all sane level-headed people do;  I panic, and being hopeless with computers, I panic again. Just like a squirrel in a mouse-wheel. Whereas, if I were to take it slowly I&#039;d be much better off.
You have been more than kind and helpful. Something I very much appreciate.

Cheers

Venise</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff: I&#8217;ve been on the go like you wouldn&#8217;t believe. Yes, It&#8217;s just the way I used to do it before the change. I think my problem has been that the author&#8217;s name isn&#8217;t as obvious as it was before. Not being a patient soul, I click onto politics and can&#8217;t find the name. Then I do what all sane level-headed people do;  I panic, and being hopeless with computers, I panic again. Just like a squirrel in a mouse-wheel. Whereas, if I were to take it slowly I&#8217;d be much better off.<br />
You have been more than kind and helpful. Something I very much appreciate.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Venise</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Waugh</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/06/combet-fudging-the-carbon-tax-question/#comment-26135</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Waugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 08:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Venise: Yeah, you can bookmark it if you like. Every author has their own page of stories, just click on their name where it&#039;s listed on an article (on the various index pages or on the story page itself).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Venise: Yeah, you can bookmark it if you like. Every author has their own page of stories, just click on their name where it&#8217;s listed on an article (on the various index pages or on the story page itself).</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/06/combet-fudging-the-carbon-tax-question/#comment-26131</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 08:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, sorry I&#039;m so late but I&#039;ve been so busy. How did you do that? Do I have to do that then bookmark it? I told you I was hopeless. Thanks for your help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, sorry I&#8217;m so late but I&#8217;ve been so busy. How did you do that? Do I have to do that then bookmark it? I told you I was hopeless. Thanks for your help.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesK</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/06/combet-fudging-the-carbon-tax-question/#comment-26123</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 07:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Spinal Tap line alone was worth the read.
It takes two to tango though and no mention here of the almost invisible or rather inaudible and ever even handed Fran Kelly......
Bet she wouldn&#039;t be so silent had she been interviewing Andrew Robb.
Oh! Actually she wasn&#039;t.
Contrast with Keey O&#039;Brien&#039;s &#039;interview&#039; of Malcolm Turnbull last night.
ABC News and Current Affairs......what a farce!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Spinal Tap line alone was worth the read.<br />
It takes two to tango though and no mention here of the almost invisible or rather inaudible and ever even handed Fran Kelly&#8230;&#8230;<br />
Bet she wouldn&#8217;t be so silent had she been interviewing Andrew Robb.<br />
Oh! Actually she wasn&#8217;t.<br />
Contrast with Keey O&#8217;Brien&#8217;s &#8216;interview&#8217; of Malcolm Turnbull last night.<br />
ABC News and Current Affairs&#8230;&#8230;what a farce!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/06/combet-fudging-the-carbon-tax-question/#comment-26084</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 00:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My usual cynical line is that Combet is as hamstrung on ETS as John Hewson was on the GST. No matter the credentials behind MPs they&#039;re confined by party line and no doubt portfolios beyond their capabilities.  Hewson was an economics guru who couldn&#039;t get his head around tax reform Liberal-style sparking widespread use of  the &quot;What do I Say When I&#039;m Asked&quot; rescue pro formas that leave them and us none the wiser for the question.   Wong has got the global warming ETS thingy well under wraps but at slow revs per syllable can&#039;t sell it. Combet&#039;s like Hewson and just doesn&#039;t get it which is why the GFC is as good a reason as any for Rudd to put it on the back-burner - no pun intended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My usual cynical line is that Combet is as hamstrung on ETS as John Hewson was on the GST. No matter the credentials behind MPs they&#8217;re confined by party line and no doubt portfolios beyond their capabilities.  Hewson was an economics guru who couldn&#8217;t get his head around tax reform Liberal-style sparking widespread use of  the &#8220;What do I Say When I&#8217;m Asked&#8221; rescue pro formas that leave them and us none the wiser for the question.   Wong has got the global warming ETS thingy well under wraps but at slow revs per syllable can&#8217;t sell it. Combet&#8217;s like Hewson and just doesn&#8217;t get it which is why the GFC is as good a reason as any for Rudd to put it on the back-burner - no pun intended.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Waugh</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/06/combet-fudging-the-carbon-tax-question/#comment-26042</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Waugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 05:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Venise, just click the links I posted. Here it is &quot;in the raw&quot;: http://www.crikey.com.au/author/bernardkeane/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Venise, just click the links I posted. Here it is &#8220;in the raw&#8221;: <a href="http://www.crikey.com.au/author/bernardkeane/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crikey.com.au/author/bernardkeane/</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Sanderson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/06/combet-fudging-the-carbon-tax-question/#comment-26038</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 04:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graeme Lewis, you have been forced to come out from behind your &#039;Ruddthedud&#039; moniker but your sprays are as drearily predictable, and as content-free, as ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graeme Lewis, you have been forced to come out from behind your &#8216;Ruddthedud&#8217; moniker but your sprays are as drearily predictable, and as content-free, as ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/06/combet-fudging-the-carbon-tax-question/#comment-26035</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 04:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Mr Keane - you are still blind-sided by Rudd the dud, but at least you have sussed out the nonsense being peddled by Wong and Combet.

Thanks for this piece which helps me - and hopefully others - better understand this ETS nonsense</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Mr Keane - you are still blind-sided by Rudd the dud, but at least you have sussed out the nonsense being peddled by Wong and Combet.</p>
<p>Thanks for this piece which helps me - and hopefully others - better understand this ETS nonsense</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/06/combet-fudging-the-carbon-tax-question/#comment-26032</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 04:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff: I did it via &#039;search&#039; then took my pick of subject. Is that what you meant? Many thanks for your help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff: I did it via &#8216;search&#8217; then took my pick of subject. Is that what you meant? Many thanks for your help.</p>
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		<title>By: David Sanderson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/06/combet-fudging-the-carbon-tax-question/#comment-26031</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 04:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently attended a talk that Combet gave to (mostly) ALP members and I experienced a little of the politics-by-numbers that Keane describes here. Combet reeled off a monotone attack on the Liberals and a routine defence of Rudd Labor that gave every appearance of having been reeled off at least a hundred times before. I wouldn&#039;t expect a politician to make an original speech at every such occasion but there is a need to be more open and free-flowing.

No attempt was made to give it life or interest and no questions were taken from the audience. It came across as pure machine politics - a machine that is concerned only with putting out the &#039;message&#039; and not in engaging with the voters and debating their concerns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently attended a talk that Combet gave to (mostly) ALP members and I experienced a little of the politics-by-numbers that Keane describes here. Combet reeled off a monotone attack on the Liberals and a routine defence of Rudd Labor that gave every appearance of having been reeled off at least a hundred times before. I wouldn&#8217;t expect a politician to make an original speech at every such occasion but there is a need to be more open and free-flowing.</p>
<p>No attempt was made to give it life or interest and no questions were taken from the audience. It came across as pure machine politics - a machine that is concerned only with putting out the &#8216;message&#8217; and not in engaging with the voters and debating their concerns.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/06/combet-fudging-the-carbon-tax-question/#comment-26030</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 04:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot Jeff. Umm do I need to ask you how to find this page? Please be tolerant. When it comes to computers I&#039;m intellectually challenged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot Jeff. Umm do I need to ask you how to find this page? Please be tolerant. When it comes to computers I&#8217;m intellectually challenged.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/06/combet-fudging-the-carbon-tax-question/#comment-26029</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 04:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh God! Do they all go to the same speech school? I could have sworn I heard Kevin Rudd s[peaking here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh God! Do they all go to the same speech school? I could have sworn I heard Kevin Rudd s[peaking here.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Waugh</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/06/combet-fudging-the-carbon-tax-question/#comment-26027</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Waugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 04:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Venise... The new website has a page dedicated to every author... so the quickest place to find the latest &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crikey.com.au/author/bernardkeane/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bernard Keane&lt;/a&gt; is on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crikey.com.au/author/bernardkeane/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bernard Keane&lt;/a&gt; page. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Venise&#8230; The new website has a page dedicated to every author&#8230; so the quickest place to find the latest <a href="http://www.crikey.com.au/author/bernardkeane/" rel="nofollow">Bernard Keane</a> is on the <a href="http://www.crikey.com.au/author/bernardkeane/" rel="nofollow">Bernard Keane</a> page. <img src='http://www.crikey.com.au/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-wink.png' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/06/combet-fudging-the-carbon-tax-question/#comment-26025</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 04:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BernardK: It seems more difficult to find you on the new website. Why can&#039;t your name be in bold type? As in easier to find. You are the first person I look for on Crikey so what about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BernardK: It seems more difficult to find you on the new website. Why can&#8217;t your name be in bold type? As in easier to find. You are the first person I look for on Crikey so what about it?</p>
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