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	<title>Comments on: The persecution of Marcus Einfeld</title>
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		<title>By: Roberto</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/25/the-persecution-of-marcus-einfeld/#comment-16985</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I see you don&#039;t like Andrew Bolt.  Perhaps I should take the Hun or read his blog since he usually makes sense when someone sends me what he has written.   You take yourself too serously Greg and don&#039;t seem to have much of a feel for human reality.  Nothing could be more natural than for a journalist to invite the police to look at the tape record of Einfeld buckling up or not, largely to see how the police handle it.  And if the police have a matter drawn to their attention do you really want Mr. Plod to exercise too much instant discretion to disregard what might at first sight  (and then again on later viewing) seem relatively trivial.  How often do we hear that &quot;the police weren&#039;t interested&quot; in big crime stories (or beatups)?  First rule for police on being told something:  take anything the public tell you with the actual or implied assertion that it matters or might be important as worth examining thoroughly enough to put it in the right box.  If I had been a police person told by a journo that Marcus Einfeld had apparently committed another offence viewable on TV I would be conscious that the journo might be setting me up for something...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BTW the Four Corners program was unusually good at telling a story, allowing Einfeld to make one very uneasy about his character (described by a former senior employee in the organisation he chaired as a bully and unwilling to listen) and therefore open to the sort of comments Bolt made, primitive as they might be in terms of true psychological insight into lying and the ability to detect lies and exposition of the complexities.  But then who would want to rely on any judge to read minds with high probability of accuracy?  And, a jury of one&#039;s peers?  Peers? Where do you find them in today&#039;s complex multi-everything society.    All the more reason for people not to assume they are clever enough to get away with lies or to make a practice of telling them as Einfeld clearly did.  Three priors of the same kind.  Chance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I see you don&#8217;t like Andrew Bolt.  Perhaps I should take the Hun or read his blog since he usually makes sense when someone sends me what he has written.   You take yourself too serously Greg and don&#8217;t seem to have much of a feel for human reality.  Nothing could be more natural than for a journalist to invite the police to look at the tape record of Einfeld buckling up or not, largely to see how the police handle it.  And if the police have a matter drawn to their attention do you really want Mr. Plod to exercise too much instant discretion to disregard what might at first sight  (and then again on later viewing) seem relatively trivial.  How often do we hear that &#8220;the police weren&#8217;t interested&#8221; in big crime stories (or beatups)?  First rule for police on being told something:  take anything the public tell you with the actual or implied assertion that it matters or might be important as worth examining thoroughly enough to put it in the right box.  If I had been a police person told by a journo that Marcus Einfeld had apparently committed another offence viewable on TV I would be conscious that the journo might be setting me up for something&#8230;</p>
<p>BTW the Four Corners program was unusually good at telling a story, allowing Einfeld to make one very uneasy about his character (described by a former senior employee in the organisation he chaired as a bully and unwilling to listen) and therefore open to the sort of comments Bolt made, primitive as they might be in terms of true psychological insight into lying and the ability to detect lies and exposition of the complexities.  But then who would want to rely on any judge to read minds with high probability of accuracy?  And, a jury of one&#8217;s peers?  Peers? Where do you find them in today&#8217;s complex multi-everything society.    All the more reason for people not to assume they are clever enough to get away with lies or to make a practice of telling them as Einfeld clearly did.  Three priors of the same kind.  Chance?</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/25/the-persecution-of-marcus-einfeld/#comment-16986</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bolt proves yet again what an a..e ole he is. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bolt proves yet again what an a..e ole he is.</p>
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		<title>By: baden</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/25/the-persecution-of-marcus-einfeld/#comment-16987</link>
		<dc:creator>baden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>marcus einfeld has belief in the jewish faith and holds israeli citizenship he should have thought of the consequences of lying and he was a high profile jew and judge of the high court and he keeps $200000 a year he perpetuated the lie THE FACTS ARE HE LIED TO THE POLICE AND LED THEM TO BANGLADESH LOOKING FOR A BRENNAN WOMAN IF YOU MAKE A MONKEY OUT OF THE JUDICUARY THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS EVERY TIME &lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>marcus einfeld has belief in the jewish faith and holds israeli citizenship he should have thought of the consequences of lying and he was a high profile jew and judge of the high court and he keeps $200000 a year he perpetuated the lie THE FACTS ARE HE LIED TO THE POLICE AND LED THEM TO BANGLADESH LOOKING FOR A BRENNAN WOMAN IF YOU MAKE A MONKEY OUT OF THE JUDICUARY THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS EVERY TIME </p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/25/the-persecution-of-marcus-einfeld/#comment-16988</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article is absolutely spot-on, I really do wonder if the NSW constabulary have anything better to do (maybe they could stop bikies from beating each other to death in public).  All we now know is that Marcus Einfeld is a typical human being and is as flawed as the rest of us.  A little bit of human compassion and Christian charity would go a long way here.  I have no trouble forgiving Mr Einfeld and I think that the revolting Bolt should go back to reading Mein Kampf or whatever anti-social trash he is into these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article is absolutely spot-on, I really do wonder if the NSW constabulary have anything better to do (maybe they could stop bikies from beating each other to death in public).  All we now know is that Marcus Einfeld is a typical human being and is as flawed as the rest of us.  A little bit of human compassion and Christian charity would go a long way here.  I have no trouble forgiving Mr Einfeld and I think that the revolting Bolt should go back to reading Mein Kampf or whatever anti-social trash he is into these days.</p>
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		<title>By: N Griffiths</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/25/the-persecution-of-marcus-einfeld/#comment-16989</link>
		<dc:creator>N Griffiths</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting that the press are not calling for the driver of Einfeld&#039;s car to be pinged for driving with an unrestrained passenger!  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting that the press are not calling for the driver of Einfeld&#8217;s car to be pinged for driving with an unrestrained passenger!</p>
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		<title>By: fehowarth</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/25/the-persecution-of-marcus-einfeld/#comment-16990</link>
		<dc:creator>fehowarth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no such thing as a perfect person.  We all make mistakes.  I am surprised as the hatred felt for this man, even among those who know nothing about him.  I do not see why it is right to judge a man by one mistake he made in his old age and jettison every good thing he did during his working life.  What he did is hard to understand.  He has been sentence and is paying the price for what only can be his stupidity.  He in this case has not hurt anyone and any further charges do not make any sense and is costly.  The problem  is that he appears to be paying the price for fighting causes some do not like.  Causes for the needy and indigenous people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no such thing as a perfect person.  We all make mistakes.  I am surprised as the hatred felt for this man, even among those who know nothing about him.  I do not see why it is right to judge a man by one mistake he made in his old age and jettison every good thing he did during his working life.  What he did is hard to understand.  He has been sentence and is paying the price for what only can be his stupidity.  He in this case has not hurt anyone and any further charges do not make any sense and is costly.  The problem  is that he appears to be paying the price for fighting causes some do not like.  Causes for the needy and indigenous people.</p>
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		<title>By: baden</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/25/the-persecution-of-marcus-einfeld/#comment-16991</link>
		<dc:creator>baden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>marcus einfeld has belief in the jewish faith and holds israeli citizenship he should have thought of the consequences of lying and he was a high profile jew and judge of the high court and he keeps $200000 a year he perpetuated the lie THE FACTS ARE HE LIED TO THE POLICE AND LED THEM TO BANGLADESH LOOKING FOR A BRENNAN WOMAN IF YOU MAKE A MONKEY OUT OF THE JUDICUARY THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS EVERY TIME &lt;br /&gt;Marcus problem was not that he did not hurt anyone it was that he contnually made one lie up after another to the police judges and investigators even to the media and took the court system as a bunch of fools and monkeys while it was high profile in the public eye and then telling all he had bi-polar disorder and not bringing up when he was actively judging people in courts another lie and now in jail and still saying he didnt know why he lied Its obvious why he lied he thought everyone was stupid cows&lt;br /&gt;The deal is admit it early if yu know the police and everyone else knows or shut up an cop the lesser &lt;br /&gt;Marcus may even not believe he is actually in jail &lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>marcus einfeld has belief in the jewish faith and holds israeli citizenship he should have thought of the consequences of lying and he was a high profile jew and judge of the high court and he keeps $200000 a year he perpetuated the lie THE FACTS ARE HE LIED TO THE POLICE AND LED THEM TO BANGLADESH LOOKING FOR A BRENNAN WOMAN IF YOU MAKE A MONKEY OUT OF THE JUDICUARY THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS EVERY TIME <br />Marcus problem was not that he did not hurt anyone it was that he contnually made one lie up after another to the police judges and investigators even to the media and took the court system as a bunch of fools and monkeys while it was high profile in the public eye and then telling all he had bi-polar disorder and not bringing up when he was actively judging people in courts another lie and now in jail and still saying he didnt know why he lied Its obvious why he lied he thought everyone was stupid cows<br />The deal is admit it early if yu know the police and everyone else knows or shut up an cop the lesser <br />Marcus may even not believe he is actually in jail </p>
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		<title>By: Nadia David</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/25/the-persecution-of-marcus-einfeld/#comment-16992</link>
		<dc:creator>Nadia David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem I have, Greg, is Marcus Einfeld is neither down nor out. He is nothing like Jack Thomas, or David Hicks, or Dr Haneef. He is 1. white; 2. rich; 3. an expert in the legal system; and 4. guilty. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;His sentence was at the high end but deserved for one in his position. Think of all the people who believed he was one of the good guys all this time. I, for one, feel nothing but anger and contempt for a man of this talent, vision and drive to have betrayed those who admired him. His human rights record was an aggravating factor not a mitigation of his criminal behaviour.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for Bolt, why are we even reading that man&#039;s drivel? He&#039;s the Alan Jones of print journalism and should be given the same respect and time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem I have, Greg, is Marcus Einfeld is neither down nor out. He is nothing like Jack Thomas, or David Hicks, or Dr Haneef. He is 1. white; 2. rich; 3. an expert in the legal system; and 4. guilty. </p>
<p>His sentence was at the high end but deserved for one in his position. Think of all the people who believed he was one of the good guys all this time. I, for one, feel nothing but anger and contempt for a man of this talent, vision and drive to have betrayed those who admired him. His human rights record was an aggravating factor not a mitigation of his criminal behaviour.</p>
<p>As for Bolt, why are we even reading that man&#8217;s drivel? He&#8217;s the Alan Jones of print journalism and should be given the same respect and time.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/25/the-persecution-of-marcus-einfeld/#comment-16993</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t watch Four Corners but my daughter who is a stickler for wearing seatbelts says she kept waiting for him to put it on but, at the same time, she swears the car wasn&#039;t moving! I am glad someone is pointing out the unfortunate Australian trait of - not the tall poppy syndrome but rather its opposite - putting the boot in to someone who is down and preferably unable to defend themselves. This cowardly moralising self-righteousnous is a very ugly aspect of our national character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t watch Four Corners but my daughter who is a stickler for wearing seatbelts says she kept waiting for him to put it on but, at the same time, she swears the car wasn&#8217;t moving! I am glad someone is pointing out the unfortunate Australian trait of - not the tall poppy syndrome but rather its opposite - putting the boot in to someone who is down and preferably unable to defend themselves. This cowardly moralising self-righteousnous is a very ugly aspect of our national character.</p>
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		<title>By: Purkis</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/25/the-persecution-of-marcus-einfeld/#comment-16994</link>
		<dc:creator>Purkis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Einfeld made a mistake?&lt;br /&gt;Come on...let&#039;s be real here... he lied to get out of a petty fine, sent our judicial system on a wild goose chase involving deceased persons and got caught. He deserves every second of three years!&lt;br /&gt;However, I agree that the police have better things to do than issue him with another fine for failing to wear a seat belt during a TV interview.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Einfeld made a mistake?<br />Come on&#8230;let&#8217;s be real here&#8230; he lied to get out of a petty fine, sent our judicial system on a wild goose chase involving deceased persons and got caught. He deserves every second of three years!<br />However, I agree that the police have better things to do than issue him with another fine for failing to wear a seat belt during a TV interview.</p>
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		<title>By: Les Bursill</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/25/the-persecution-of-marcus-einfeld/#comment-16995</link>
		<dc:creator>Les Bursill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is it about Australia. Both the News Media and the general population seem to have very few human feelings. Marcus Einfeld is down and out yet we bay for more blood whilst we stick in the boot. It is so easy to slide down that slimy slide, let&#039;s have some compassion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is it about Australia. Both the News Media and the general population seem to have very few human feelings. Marcus Einfeld is down and out yet we bay for more blood whilst we stick in the boot. It is so easy to slide down that slimy slide, let&#8217;s have some compassion.</p>
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		<title>By: The Rant</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/25/the-persecution-of-marcus-einfeld/#comment-16996</link>
		<dc:creator>The Rant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Einfield should have been charged with stupidity. The sentence  -$100,000 donation to his favourite charity. He and Wheatley can now lay cliam to be sentenced to a total of 5 years jail where no member of the public was harmed in any way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meanwhile Murderers , rapists, child molesters get light sentences.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yesterday kids chucked rocks at cars and trucks on the Warrego Highway. One trucker who had his windshield busted said the kids should be charged with attempted murder. Bet they get a slap on the wrist and then go and have a good laugh with their mates. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Einfield should have been charged with stupidity. The sentence  -$100,000 donation to his favourite charity. He and Wheatley can now lay cliam to be sentenced to a total of 5 years jail where no member of the public was harmed in any way.</p>
<p>Meanwhile Murderers , rapists, child molesters get light sentences.</p>
<p>Yesterday kids chucked rocks at cars and trucks on the Warrego Highway. One trucker who had his windshield busted said the kids should be charged with attempted murder. Bet they get a slap on the wrist and then go and have a good laugh with their mates.</p>
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