Comments on: Take the N out of QLD LNP http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/25/take-the-n-out-of-qld-lnp/ now with extra source Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:34:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: James of FNQ http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/25/take-the-n-out-of-qld-lnp/#comment-16280 James of FNQ Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-16280 Barnaby joice is right, there are two Queenslands, Brisbane and the rest of the state. The LNP need to do a lot to unseat the Labor Party in Brisbane as they are well entrenched. In the new Parliament there are only five ministers out of the eighteen, that come from outside the electoral districts of North and South Brisbane, The ALP has concentrated it's power base in Brisbane and to challenge this will need a lot more vision and effort than what the LNP has demonstrated to date. Barnaby joice is right, there are two Queenslands, Brisbane and the rest of the state. The LNP need to do a lot to unseat the Labor Party in Brisbane as they are well entrenched. In the new Parliament there are only five ministers out of the eighteen, that come from outside the electoral districts of North and South Brisbane, The ALP has concentrated it’s power base in Brisbane and to challenge this will need a lot more vision and effort than what the LNP has demonstrated to date.

]]> By: john t http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/25/take-the-n-out-of-qld-lnp/#comment-16281 john t Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-16281 For how long will the old nats and libs maintain their destructive, luddite attachment to the old party titles?<br /><br />There's no doubt the terrible scars remaining from the Joh Bjelke-Petersen days damn the electoral chances of many of the proudly self-identifying nats.<br /><br />Keane's list of newly successful or emerging LNPs is on the face of it impressive and quite different from the old guard of ALL the Queensland parties.<br /><br />Getting this lot to be the face of the LNP seems one course to follow - especially to attract supporters from an increasingly well educated population of under 40s.<br /><br /> For how long will the old nats and libs maintain their destructive, luddite attachment to the old party titles?

There’s no doubt the terrible scars remaining from the Joh Bjelke-Petersen days damn the electoral chances of many of the proudly self-identifying nats.

Keane’s list of newly successful or emerging LNPs is on the face of it impressive and quite different from the old guard of ALL the Queensland parties.

Getting this lot to be the face of the LNP seems one course to follow - especially to attract supporters from an increasingly well educated population of under 40s.

]]> By: Pete Bondurant http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/25/take-the-n-out-of-qld-lnp/#comment-16282 Pete Bondurant Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-16282 Considering how utterly awful the current NSW gov is, If I lived in there I think I could actually bring myself to vote Liberal. I hope they are decimated at the next election. However If I still lived in QLD there is simply NO WAY in hell I could ever vote for a party led and dominated by the Nationals. The disgrace of the Joh years meant they lost the privilege to govern in their own right ever again. I know a lot of Queenslanders still feel the same way and until the opposition has a Liberal leader, QLD has no chance at a viable alternative. Down with ze National peeg-dogs! Considering how utterly awful the current NSW gov is, If I lived in there I think I could actually bring myself to vote Liberal. I hope they are decimated at the next election. However If I still lived in QLD there is simply NO WAY in hell I could ever vote for a party led and dominated by the Nationals. The disgrace of the Joh years meant they lost the privilege to govern in their own right ever again. I know a lot of Queenslanders still feel the same way and until the opposition has a Liberal leader, QLD has no chance at a viable alternative. Down with ze National peeg-dogs!

]]> By: Cathy http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/25/take-the-n-out-of-qld-lnp/#comment-16283 Cathy Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-16283 Has everyone dismissed the history leading to this conservative 'merger'? The Queensland Liberals held only eight seats in an 89-seat parliament and the Nationals held sixteen. Now we’re hearing some white-hot specious rhetoric about how these minority stragglers from a fast-disappearing division of the Liberal Party of Oz were done over by a bunch of hayseeds. “We were marginalised, there was no strategy, no professionalism, no leadership and they’ll be lucky to pick up EIGHT seats” (with dissociate inference). Worse still from Qld Liberal Senator George Brandis and Party director Brian Loughnane “we were locked out of headquarters I still don’t know where it is”. So why didn’t the last eight Liberal bright sparks with George and Brian in tow protest the dire situation if a better outcome for democracy let alone the Party was at stake. Sure the Qld LNP is an ugly two-humped camel but at least it saved the northern Libs from annihilation. What an ungrateful bunch. Has everyone dismissed the history leading to this conservative ‘merger’? The Queensland Liberals held only eight seats in an 89-seat parliament and the Nationals held sixteen. Now we’re hearing some white-hot specious rhetoric about how these minority stragglers from a fast-disappearing division of the Liberal Party of Oz were done over by a bunch of hayseeds. “We were marginalised, there was no strategy, no professionalism, no leadership and they’ll be lucky to pick up EIGHT seats” (with dissociate inference). Worse still from Qld Liberal Senator George Brandis and Party director Brian Loughnane “we were locked out of headquarters I still don’t know where it is”. So why didn’t the last eight Liberal bright sparks with George and Brian in tow protest the dire situation if a better outcome for democracy let alone the Party was at stake. Sure the Qld LNP is an ugly two-humped camel but at least it saved the northern Libs from annihilation. What an ungrateful bunch.

]]> By: Ann C http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/25/take-the-n-out-of-qld-lnp/#comment-16284 Ann C Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-16284 I keep being surprised at comments like the following: "Unfortunately, Joyce now seems alone in remaining convinced a National leader is necessary for the LNP. Even National MPs are saying they need a Liberal leader. Gate. Horse. Bolted".<br />It is obvious that the Liberal Party does not propose policies that enough people want to see implemented or that the voters believe will be implemented. Over elections from 2001 onwards Liberal party candidates could not raise the support for more than a handful of elected members. It was city-based National Party politicians that used to bring the Coalition over the line in later years of the Coalition, and the National Party that was always the dominant partner. I suspect Q'lders prefer the 'Agrarian Socialists' aspect of the Nationals versus the 'born to rule' aspect of the Libs. I keep being surprised at comments like the following: “Unfortunately, Joyce now seems alone in remaining convinced a National leader is necessary for the LNP. Even National MPs are saying they need a Liberal leader. Gate. Horse. Bolted”.
It is obvious that the Liberal Party does not propose policies that enough people want to see implemented or that the voters believe will be implemented. Over elections from 2001 onwards Liberal party candidates could not raise the support for more than a handful of elected members. It was city-based National Party politicians that used to bring the Coalition over the line in later years of the Coalition, and the National Party that was always the dominant partner. I suspect Q’lders prefer the ‘Agrarian Socialists’ aspect of the Nationals versus the ‘born to rule’ aspect of the Libs.

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