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	<title>Comments on: Liberal mates milked millions from Howard&#8217;s ad bonanza</title>
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		<title>By: Dave Liberts</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22784</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Liberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JamesK, by quoting the High Court in defense of the Howard government and in retort to this article, you are asserting that because nothing illegal took place then the government was justified in what it did. What bollocks. The High Court&#039;s remit has nothing to do with whether taxpayers got value or the government was not giving its mates a big handout with taxpayers dollars. As for your suggestions about BHP, I have no knowledge of that specific company&#039;s political donataions and have not asserted that they&#039;ve done anything wrong. But it&#039;s a point of fact that Howard&#039;s IR legislation was a huge free kick to businesses of all shapes and sizes, and it was done in expectation of return favours as well as thanks for favours already done. You can pretend the 2007 election was not lost over workchoices if you want, but Malcolm Turnbull disagrees with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JamesK, by quoting the High Court in defense of the Howard government and in retort to this article, you are asserting that because nothing illegal took place then the government was justified in what it did. What bollocks. The High Court&#8217;s remit has nothing to do with whether taxpayers got value or the government was not giving its mates a big handout with taxpayers dollars. As for your suggestions about BHP, I have no knowledge of that specific company&#8217;s political donataions and have not asserted that they&#8217;ve done anything wrong. But it&#8217;s a point of fact that Howard&#8217;s IR legislation was a huge free kick to businesses of all shapes and sizes, and it was done in expectation of return favours as well as thanks for favours already done. You can pretend the 2007 election was not lost over workchoices if you want, but Malcolm Turnbull disagrees with you.</p>
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		<title>By: stevo the working twistie</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22785</link>
		<dc:creator>stevo the working twistie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O, woe is me. Who&#039;d have thought that politicians are corrupt self-serving nest-eggers and mates-raters? Would that I had skipped today&#039;s Crikey and remained blissfully ignorant. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Forget Labor, Liberal, Democrat or Callathumpian, there is but one rule that applies to these maggots - the WIIFM Principal (what&#039;s in it for me?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O, woe is me. Who&#8217;d have thought that politicians are corrupt self-serving nest-eggers and mates-raters? Would that I had skipped today&#8217;s Crikey and remained blissfully ignorant. </p>
<p>Forget Labor, Liberal, Democrat or Callathumpian, there is but one rule that applies to these maggots - the WIIFM Principal (what&#8217;s in it for me?)</p>
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		<title>By: JamesK'</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22786</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesK'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and I forgot an example of Rudd wasting taxpayer dollars:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,25055130-5001021,00.html&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope Dave and Bernard are suitably righteously indignant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and I forgot an example of Rudd wasting taxpayer dollars:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,25055130-5001021,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,25055130-5001021,00.html</a></p>
<p>I hope Dave and Bernard are suitably righteously indignant!</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Lyons</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22787</link>
		<dc:creator>Gina Lyons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a really good article.  But where is the accountability?  These guys tore up the rule book, doled out the cash and when their behaviour is exposed, what then?  Until there are some serious consequences for this sort of behaviour, we will continue to be appalled...until the next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a really good article.  But where is the accountability?  These guys tore up the rule book, doled out the cash and when their behaviour is exposed, what then?  Until there are some serious consequences for this sort of behaviour, we will continue to be appalled&#8230;until the next time.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesK'</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22788</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesK'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HIGH COURT OF AUSTRALIA&lt;br /&gt;Address: PO Box 6309, Kingston ACT 2604 Telephone: (02) 6270 6998&lt;br /&gt;Fax: (02) 6273 3025&lt;br /&gt;Email: fhamilton@hcourt.gov.au&lt;br /&gt;21 October 2005&lt;br /&gt;GREG COMBET AND NICOLA ROXON MP v COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA AND&lt;br /&gt;THE HONOURABLE KEVIN ANDREWS MP AND SENATOR THE HONOURABLE&lt;br /&gt;NICHOLAS MINCHIN&lt;br /&gt;&quot;The Federal Government’s expenditure on its advertising campaign to promote its proposed&lt;br /&gt;industrial relations reforms was permitted by the Appropriation Act (No 1) 2005-2006, the High&lt;br /&gt;Court of Australia held today.&lt;br /&gt;Prime Minister John Howard announced the workplace reform package on 26 May 2005 and the&lt;br /&gt;ACTU immediately began a national campaign of rallies and advertising. On 9 July 2005 the&lt;br /&gt;Federal Government began a newspaper, television and radio advertising campaign. Mr Combet,&lt;br /&gt;the secretary of the ACTU, and Ms Roxon, the shadow attorney-general, contended that&lt;br /&gt;expenditure of public money on the advertisements was unlawful.&lt;br /&gt;The High Court handed down its orders on 29 September 2005, after hearing Mr Combet and Ms&lt;br /&gt;Roxon’s challenge on 29 and 30 August, and today handed down its written reasons for those&lt;br /&gt;orders.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There was a further failed bid in 2007 as well in the High Court&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wonder if this ANAO report has anything to do with Nicola Roxon and Greg Combet, Bernard?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps the $30 million of ACTU money spent on or behalf of the Labor Party in its electioneering could have been mentioned in  yesterday&#039;s rant as well as this one?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HIGH COURT OF AUSTRALIA<br />Address: PO Box 6309, Kingston ACT 2604 Telephone: (02) 6270 6998<br />Fax: (02) 6273 3025<br />Email: <a href="mailto:fhamilton@hcourt.gov.au">fhamilton@hcourt.gov.au</a><br />21 October 2005<br />GREG COMBET AND NICOLA ROXON MP v COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA AND<br />THE HONOURABLE KEVIN ANDREWS MP AND SENATOR THE HONOURABLE<br />NICHOLAS MINCHIN<br />&#8220;The Federal Government’s expenditure on its advertising campaign to promote its proposed<br />industrial relations reforms was permitted by the Appropriation Act (No 1) 2005-2006, the High<br />Court of Australia held today.<br />Prime Minister John Howard announced the workplace reform package on 26 May 2005 and the<br />ACTU immediately began a national campaign of rallies and advertising. On 9 July 2005 the<br />Federal Government began a newspaper, television and radio advertising campaign. Mr Combet,<br />the secretary of the ACTU, and Ms Roxon, the shadow attorney-general, contended that<br />expenditure of public money on the advertisements was unlawful.<br />The High Court handed down its orders on 29 September 2005, after hearing Mr Combet and Ms<br />Roxon’s challenge on 29 and 30 August, and today handed down its written reasons for those<br />orders.&#8221;</p>
<p>There was a further failed bid in 2007 as well in the High Court</p>
<p>I wonder if this ANAO report has anything to do with Nicola Roxon and Greg Combet, Bernard?</p>
<p>Perhaps the $30 million of ACTU money spent on or behalf of the Labor Party in its electioneering could have been mentioned in  yesterday&#8217;s rant as well as this one?</p>
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		<title>By: JamesK'</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22789</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesK'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave Liberts , you have a bad habit of telling me and everybody else what you think I said or &quot;pretend&quot; and not what I actually said and then writing an entire diatribe on that false premise.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are a couple of other pertinent facts on this topic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Labor already massively outspends the Coalition on electioneering.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Furthermore most electoral abuses in the past decade have been actually committed by the Labor Party c/f the Shepherdson inquiry, cases of fraudulent enrolment and the Wollongong council sex and bribery scandal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And we all know the ALP&#039;s ongoing tradition of &#039;jobs for the boys&#039; (unless your name is &#039;stevo the&#039; numbnut).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Howard&#039;s IR legislation was a huge free kick to businesses of all shapes and sizes&quot; you say.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But wouldn&#039;t employment and the economy in Australia be better off now with a &quot;free kick&quot; to business instead of the expensive &#039;kick in the nuts&#039; from the Rudd/Gillard/Combet Combo?&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Liberts , you have a bad habit of telling me and everybody else what you think I said or &#8220;pretend&#8221; and not what I actually said and then writing an entire diatribe on that false premise.</p>
<p>There are a couple of other pertinent facts on this topic.</p>
<p>Labor already massively outspends the Coalition on electioneering.</p>
<p>Furthermore most electoral abuses in the past decade have been actually committed by the Labor Party c/f the Shepherdson inquiry, cases of fraudulent enrolment and the Wollongong council sex and bribery scandal.</p>
<p>And we all know the ALP&#8217;s ongoing tradition of &#8216;jobs for the boys&#8217; (unless your name is &#8216;stevo the&#8217; numbnut).</p>
<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>Howard&#8217;s IR legislation was a huge free kick to businesses of all shapes and sizes&#8221; you say.</p>
<p>But wouldn&#8217;t employment and the economy in Australia be better off now with a &#8220;free kick&#8221; to business instead of the expensive &#8216;kick in the nuts&#8217; from the Rudd/Gillard/Combet Combo?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Liberts</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22790</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Liberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Humble apologies to the moron.</description>
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		<title>By: Damon</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22791</link>
		<dc:creator>Damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: JamesK&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You&#039;re still not addressing the issue. Two wrongs don&#039;t make a right, we all know the standards of the ALP (paritcularly the NSW branch) seem as low - if not lower - than the Howard government when it comes to probity issues. But the point that Bernard Keane raises is valid and you haven&#039;t addressed it - this was a serious and systemic failure by a Commonwealth government to ensure that its taxpayers received the best available value for money from its advertising expenditures, with all available evidence implicating them in rewarding their political mates.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As has been pointed out by other correspondents, what the ACTU, NFF, BCA or other individual donors do with their money is their business. But the Commonwealth Consolidated Revenue Fund is *OUR* business and we need to keep governments past and present accountable for its appropriation. If we don&#039;t - if we simply acquiesce and say &quot;well, they all do it, Labor are just as bad&quot; then that is a very slippery slope indeed and before you know it there will be no other description for our government communications process than corrupt to the core.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: JamesK</p>
<p>You&#8217;re still not addressing the issue. Two wrongs don&#8217;t make a right, we all know the standards of the ALP (paritcularly the NSW branch) seem as low - if not lower - than the Howard government when it comes to probity issues. But the point that Bernard Keane raises is valid and you haven&#8217;t addressed it - this was a serious and systemic failure by a Commonwealth government to ensure that its taxpayers received the best available value for money from its advertising expenditures, with all available evidence implicating them in rewarding their political mates.</p>
<p>As has been pointed out by other correspondents, what the ACTU, NFF, BCA or other individual donors do with their money is their business. But the Commonwealth Consolidated Revenue Fund is *OUR* business and we need to keep governments past and present accountable for its appropriation. If we don&#8217;t - if we simply acquiesce and say &#8220;well, they all do it, Labor are just as bad&#8221; then that is a very slippery slope indeed and before you know it there will be no other description for our government communications process than corrupt to the core.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesK'</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22792</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesK'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HAL: &quot;Look Dave, I can see you&#039;re really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill and think things over.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAL: &#8220;Look Dave, I can see you&#8217;re really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill and think things over.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22793</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last part of para 1. should have read &#039;manifestly  obvious corrupted&#039;  I think. Hell, it is Friday the thirteenth.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last part of para 1. should have read &#8216;manifestly  obvious corrupted&#8217;  I think. Hell, it is Friday the thirteenth..</p>
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		<title>By: JamesK'</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22794</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesK'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave Liberts show me where I have alleged that: &#039;The ACTU&#039;s money is the same as taxpayers money&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I quoted an High Court judgement in the first post and posed a question. Nothing more.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After being personally abused, I pointed out that &#039;stevo the&#039; half-wit is a w-nker in the second post.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If BHP give the Coalition $40 million and when in government the Coalition enact legislation the enriches BHP what do you think the reaction would be (and not just Labor voters)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Liberts show me where I have alleged that: &#8216;The ACTU&#8217;s money is the same as taxpayers money&#8217;.</p>
<p>I quoted an High Court judgement in the first post and posed a question. Nothing more.</p>
<p>After being personally abused, I pointed out that &#8216;stevo the&#8217; half-wit is a w-nker in the second post.</p>
<p>If BHP give the Coalition $40 million and when in government the Coalition enact legislation the enriches BHP what do you think the reaction would be (and not just Labor voters)?</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22795</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel, Gillard gets up your nose but I&#039;m in awe of this MP who&#039;s having a far greater impact on debate than the lauded Costello slumped on his back bench with years more experience up his sleeve than the deputy PM. Too many in the federal opposition look like cup cakes, fairy floss and fizzy drinks and its disturbing stuff when these bods are our advocates on the world stage.  Nothing can be more unsettling than a withered opposition in a global crisis leaning on a government of novices. That&#039;s as creepy as the report Bernard highlights about Howard syphoning advertising dollars to mates for propaganda. I&#039;d like to think we all make impartial critiques in political debate - its more healthy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel, Gillard gets up your nose but I&#8217;m in awe of this MP who&#8217;s having a far greater impact on debate than the lauded Costello slumped on his back bench with years more experience up his sleeve than the deputy PM. Too many in the federal opposition look like cup cakes, fairy floss and fizzy drinks and its disturbing stuff when these bods are our advocates on the world stage.  Nothing can be more unsettling than a withered opposition in a global crisis leaning on a government of novices. That&#8217;s as creepy as the report Bernard highlights about Howard syphoning advertising dollars to mates for propaganda. I&#8217;d like to think we all make impartial critiques in political debate - its more healthy?</p>
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		<title>By: Joel B1</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22796</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel B1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cath, you know I have the deepest respect for your opinions, but really.&lt;br /&gt;&quot;There&#039;s less than a cigarette paper between JWH and Parlzim&#039;s Mugabe&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All I can say is... spew your bile elsewhere. Typical hate comments from the Labor supporters, but you guys (and gyrls) won, surely you could be a bit happy?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Think Churchill: &quot;Resolute in defeat, magnanimous in victory&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, I forgot Labors&#039; perpetual winge &quot;It&#039;s your fault. No-one told me it would be this hard! They used to call me &quot;Kev &quot;bringing the sunshine back into our lives&quot;&quot;, now they call me shit...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cath, you know I have the deepest respect for your opinions, but really.<br />&#8220;There&#8217;s less than a cigarette paper between JWH and Parlzim&#8217;s Mugabe&#8221;</p>
<p>All I can say is&#8230; spew your bile elsewhere. Typical hate comments from the Labor supporters, but you guys (and gyrls) won, surely you could be a bit happy?</p>
<p>Think Churchill: &#8220;Resolute in defeat, magnanimous in victory&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, I forgot Labors&#8217; perpetual winge &#8220;It&#8217;s your fault. No-one told me it would be this hard! They used to call me &#8220;Kev &#8220;bringing the sunshine back into our lives&#8221;&#8220;, now they call me shit&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22797</link>
		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>appalling! etc&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;but until pollies are held accountable - and i mean really accountable, as in charges, fines and/or jail time - all this is meaningless&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Labor may, or may not, use this to beat the Coalition around the head a bit - but i doubt there will be any real change&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;there will always be one set of rules for them and another for the rest of us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>appalling! etc</p>
<p>but until pollies are held accountable - and i mean really accountable, as in charges, fines and/or jail time - all this is meaningless</p>
<p>Labor may, or may not, use this to beat the Coalition around the head a bit - but i doubt there will be any real change</p>
<p>there will always be one set of rules for them and another for the rest of us</p>
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		<title>By: stevo the working twistie</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevo the working twistie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JamesK, you are exceeding even your own high standard of twittishness this time. The ACTU&#039;s money belongs to the ACTU, and can be spent as and how they wish in the interest of its membership. The Commonwealth tax revenues are the property of the people of Australia, and do not belong to political parties of any stripe to spend as and when they wish. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fact that the ACTU spent it&#039;s own money on a cause you don&#039;t agree with has no equivalence with a political party p*ssing OUR money away to the benefit of themselves and their cronies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JamesK, you are exceeding even your own high standard of twittishness this time. The ACTU&#8217;s money belongs to the ACTU, and can be spent as and how they wish in the interest of its membership. The Commonwealth tax revenues are the property of the people of Australia, and do not belong to political parties of any stripe to spend as and when they wish. </p>
<p>The fact that the ACTU spent it&#8217;s own money on a cause you don&#8217;t agree with has no equivalence with a political party p*ssing OUR money away to the benefit of themselves and their cronies.</p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22799</link>
		<dc:creator>Marilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Cossie still sits around and says they were great economic managers.    Huh, the mob who brought us the $1.5 billion Pacific Solution and the further $1.5 billion onshore prison system for a few thousand refugees.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Who brought us into an illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq, didn&#039;t know that AWB were rotten to the core and funding Saddam Hussein, children whose dreadful parents refused to throw them overboard, other children&#039;s illegally deported to the wrong countries on false papers, Australian&#039;s locked up for years in DIMA concentration camps or deported.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Name one area that the Howard mob were not corrupt to the core.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It will be much shorter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Cossie still sits around and says they were great economic managers.    Huh, the mob who brought us the $1.5 billion Pacific Solution and the further $1.5 billion onshore prison system for a few thousand refugees.</p>
<p>Who brought us into an illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq, didn&#8217;t know that AWB were rotten to the core and funding Saddam Hussein, children whose dreadful parents refused to throw them overboard, other children&#8217;s illegally deported to the wrong countries on false papers, Australian&#8217;s locked up for years in DIMA concentration camps or deported.</p>
<p>Name one area that the Howard mob were not corrupt to the core.</p>
<p>It will be much shorter.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel B1</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22800</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel B1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rant rant rant...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How about analysing the now/present hey Bernard?&lt;br /&gt;The utter failure of Rudd to introduce any legislation worth a dime is staggering given the alleged massive mandate they had.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Instead Rudd chose to grin mawkishly, hold summit after summit, make promises that he subsequently forgot (Indigenous report), create bizarre schemes like FuelWatch, GroceryWatch etc etc.&lt;br /&gt;And don&#039;t even get me started on Gillard...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bernard, frankly you make me sick. You need to put a sticker on your stories: &quot;Written by some-one who will never disagree with the left&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rant rant rant&#8230;</p>
<p>How about analysing the now/present hey Bernard?<br />The utter failure of Rudd to introduce any legislation worth a dime is staggering given the alleged massive mandate they had.</p>
<p>Instead Rudd chose to grin mawkishly, hold summit after summit, make promises that he subsequently forgot (Indigenous report), create bizarre schemes like FuelWatch, GroceryWatch etc etc.<br />And don&#8217;t even get me started on Gillard&#8230;</p>
<p>Bernard, frankly you make me sick. You need to put a sticker on your stories: &#8220;Written by some-one who will never disagree with the left&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22801</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not as though Aussies to their Jackie Howe singlets were unaware Howard monotonously flicked off guidelines, best practice and the national interest. He&#039;d have hijacked Father Christmas even tossed ethnic kiddies overboard for a vote. There&#039;s less than a cigarette paper between JWH and Parlzim&#039;s Mugabe and only a handful of our parliaments a cut above the Kurds.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not as though Aussies to their Jackie Howe singlets were unaware Howard monotonously flicked off guidelines, best practice and the national interest. He&#8217;d have hijacked Father Christmas even tossed ethnic kiddies overboard for a vote. There&#8217;s less than a cigarette paper between JWH and Parlzim&#8217;s Mugabe and only a handful of our parliaments a cut above the Kurds.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22802</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But surely you knew the Howard government was as corrupt as hell? Of course you did, and if you are squeamish about calling any Australian government corrupt, you could instead question the degree of such manifestly corruptidness. You could ask was John Howard corrupt, or was it the leeches with which he surrounded himself?&lt;br /&gt;IMO it was John Howard who was infinitely corrupt. For by creating the atmosphere which allowed great corruption, he was condoning  the corruption himself. For evil to survive....could just as easily be true if you put corruption in place of the word evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But surely you knew the Howard government was as corrupt as hell? Of course you did, and if you are squeamish about calling any Australian government corrupt, you could instead question the degree of such manifestly corruptidness. You could ask was John Howard corrupt, or was it the leeches with which he surrounded himself?<br />IMO it was John Howard who was infinitely corrupt. For by creating the atmosphere which allowed great corruption, he was condoning  the corruption himself. For evil to survive&#8230;.could just as easily be true if you put corruption in place of the word evil.</p>
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		<title>By: Bohemian</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22771</link>
		<dc:creator>Bohemian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness we can all rest easy now we have a Labor Governement. There will be no jobs for the boys now. Golly I am relieved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank goodness we can all rest easy now we have a Labor Governement. There will be no jobs for the boys now. Golly I am relieved.</p>
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		<title>By: joancroll</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22772</link>
		<dc:creator>joancroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s great to have honest John Faulkner &amp; Lindsay Tanner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s great to have honest John Faulkner &#038; Lindsay Tanner.</p>
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		<title>By: steve martin</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22773</link>
		<dc:creator>steve martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK Bernard it&#039;s a scandal that has been exposed by the ANAO, so what now? If no one is made accountable, it will happen again, either by the current government or a future Liberal one.&lt;br /&gt;It seems to me that either criminality is involved or at the very least a scandalously arrogant attitude to the public purse by the culprits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Bernard it&#8217;s a scandal that has been exposed by the ANAO, so what now? If no one is made accountable, it will happen again, either by the current government or a future Liberal one.<br />It seems to me that either criminality is involved or at the very least a scandalously arrogant attitude to the public purse by the culprits.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesK'</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22774</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesK'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Addressing whose &quot;issue&quot; Damon?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You say: &quot;As has been pointed out by other correspondents, what the ACTU, NFF, BCA or other individual donors do with their money is their business&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I repeat : It is our business and should be our business if the Labor party receives $40 million in lucre and as Government enriches and makes more powerful that donor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the shoe were on the other foot: a Liberal Government enriching a private business at taxpayers and citizens&#039; expense after that business &#039;donated&#039; $40 million to the Liberal party. That Liberal PM would be lynched.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is the bottom line for ordinary taxpayers and ordinary citizens?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Isn&#039;t it to see that the system is both fair and transparent?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That is not what Bernard Keane and this government is endeavouring to do here. They want: &#039;grossly unfair advantage for Labor and only transparent when it suits them and moreover slime the Coalition whenever possible even if it goes against the greater public interest.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I mean Bernard Keane and the Labor Party being outrageously &#039;justifiably indignant&#039; is actually far worse than the pot calling the kettle black. it&#039;s just more of the Left: disingenuous and dishonest. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keane has often said that good government needs good opposition.  It agree. But like so many from the Left the good words are repudiated by their ensuing actions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lastly, I hope you&#039;re not suggesting that I have implied or said: &quot;well, they all do it, Labor are just as bad&quot; and that somehow that excuses &#039;bad behaviour&#039; by the Coalition.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because I haven&#039;t.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you were saying that this issue needs to be resolved for the greater good, I agree with you. Now if you could only convince Bernard Keane and the Labor Party to demonstrate goodwill and to act in the interests of the country as a whole.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is as the &#039;Keane-maligned&#039; Senator Ronaldson said in Parliament: &quot;an unprecedented opportunity to make dramatic improvements to the system of electoral funding&quot;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Coalition are not the stumbling bloc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Addressing whose &#8220;issue&#8221; Damon?</p>
<p>You say: &#8220;As has been pointed out by other correspondents, what the ACTU, NFF, BCA or other individual donors do with their money is their business&#8221;.</p>
<p>I repeat : It is our business and should be our business if the Labor party receives $40 million in lucre and as Government enriches and makes more powerful that donor.</p>
<p>If the shoe were on the other foot: a Liberal Government enriching a private business at taxpayers and citizens&#8217; expense after that business &#8216;donated&#8217; $40 million to the Liberal party. That Liberal PM would be lynched.</p>
<p>What is the bottom line for ordinary taxpayers and ordinary citizens?</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it to see that the system is both fair and transparent?</p>
<p>That is not what Bernard Keane and this government is endeavouring to do here. They want: &#8216;grossly unfair advantage for Labor and only transparent when it suits them and moreover slime the Coalition whenever possible even if it goes against the greater public interest.</p>
<p>I mean Bernard Keane and the Labor Party being outrageously &#8216;justifiably indignant&#8217; is actually far worse than the pot calling the kettle black. it&#8217;s just more of the Left: disingenuous and dishonest. </p>
<p>Keane has often said that good government needs good opposition.  It agree. But like so many from the Left the good words are repudiated by their ensuing actions.</p>
<p>Lastly, I hope you&#8217;re not suggesting that I have implied or said: &#8220;well, they all do it, Labor are just as bad&#8221; and that somehow that excuses &#8216;bad behaviour&#8217; by the Coalition.</p>
<p>Because I haven&#8217;t.</p>
<p>If you were saying that this issue needs to be resolved for the greater good, I agree with you. Now if you could only convince Bernard Keane and the Labor Party to demonstrate goodwill and to act in the interests of the country as a whole.</p>
<p>There is as the &#8216;Keane-maligned&#8217; Senator Ronaldson said in Parliament: &#8220;an unprecedented opportunity to make dramatic improvements to the system of electoral funding&#8221;  </p>
<p>The Coalition are not the stumbling bloc.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22775</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Government by the people certainly throws up its disappointments with cranks like Howard really stuffing everyone’s dream of honest responsible democracy. Surrounded by like and feeble minds they inflict profound damage by cycling through parliaments building careers on selling out constituencies. Years on we’re gobsmacked these extremist loops ever rose to power. The NSW populace gave itself an upper cut within seconds of saluting Iemma&#039;s team and next week it’ll be Queensland when it resigns to authoritarian control after Bligh follows Beattie after Joh. Good, decent, moral and open government isn’t elusive it’s just not on any political party&#039;s agenda. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Government by the people certainly throws up its disappointments with cranks like Howard really stuffing everyone’s dream of honest responsible democracy. Surrounded by like and feeble minds they inflict profound damage by cycling through parliaments building careers on selling out constituencies. Years on we’re gobsmacked these extremist loops ever rose to power. The NSW populace gave itself an upper cut within seconds of saluting Iemma&#8217;s team and next week it’ll be Queensland when it resigns to authoritarian control after Bligh follows Beattie after Joh. Good, decent, moral and open government isn’t elusive it’s just not on any political party&#8217;s agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Liberts</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/13/liberal-mates-milked-millions-from-howards-ad-bonanza/#comment-22776</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Liberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry JamesK, you&#039;re on a bigtime loser on this one. The ACTU&#039;s money is far from the same thing as taxpayers money. Yes, the Labor government&#039;s amendments are favourable to workers and thus to the ACTU. But trying to pretend that the Howard government was fair and balanced on IR and in no way ideologically driven in favour of its corporate mates, oh how stupid such a claim is. The fact is that if business groups had footed the bill for the advertising campaigns which are the subject of this article (and it&#039;s a fact that the Libs were begging them to spend up in the lead up to the 2007 election, and that this did not happen) then there would be no article. Nice try JamesK but not even you can defend the indefensible efforts of the Howard camp on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry JamesK, you&#8217;re on a bigtime loser on this one. The ACTU&#8217;s money is far from the same thing as taxpayers money. Yes, the Labor government&#8217;s amendments are favourable to workers and thus to the ACTU. But trying to pretend that the Howard government was fair and balanced on IR and in no way ideologically driven in favour of its corporate mates, oh how stupid such a claim is. The fact is that if business groups had footed the bill for the advertising campaigns which are the subject of this article (and it&#8217;s a fact that the Libs were begging them to spend up in the lead up to the 2007 election, and that this did not happen) then there would be no article. Nice try JamesK but not even you can defend the indefensible efforts of the Howard camp on this one.</p>
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