Comments on: It’s time to change the NRL “boyz” club http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/12/its-time-to-change-the-nrl-boyz-club/ now with extra source Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:09:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Tom McLoughlin http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/12/its-time-to-change-the-nrl-boyz-club/#comment-13656 Tom McLoughlin Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13656 There's a hidden subject in all this - brain injury of the highest performers in a contact sport. How many of these guys are actually punchy? Will they be the next generation of Ali types crippled by chronic brain impairment? Does alcohol and failure of social and allegedly legal standards mask a deeper issue with institutional aggression in sport? Of mental health problems from physical injury?<br /><br />I bet it does.<br /><br /> There’s a hidden subject in all this - brain injury of the highest performers in a contact sport. How many of these guys are actually punchy? Will they be the next generation of Ali types crippled by chronic brain impairment? Does alcohol and failure of social and allegedly legal standards mask a deeper issue with institutional aggression in sport? Of mental health problems from physical injury?

I bet it does.

]]> By: John Ryan http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/12/its-time-to-change-the-nrl-boyz-club/#comment-13657 John Ryan Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13657 I love being lectured by a sociologist,who either does not get out much judging by his comments,given the problems with the treatment of both men and women and grog in the ADF, I do think its a bit rich.<br />He also does not read newspapers or has ever seen the behaviour at the Summernats in Canberra,or for that matter any Friday or Saturday night in any major city in Australia.<br />So cut the crap Doc,get real and go clean up your own back yard,I just get tired of these made up know alls who 20 yrs where never heard of before,I have no problem with what the NRL has done,and I think its not before time, all they have to do now having set a precedent is stick to it I love being lectured by a sociologist,who either does not get out much judging by his comments,given the problems with the treatment of both men and women and grog in the ADF, I do think its a bit rich.
He also does not read newspapers or has ever seen the behaviour at the Summernats in Canberra,or for that matter any Friday or Saturday night in any major city in Australia.
So cut the crap Doc,get real and go clean up your own back yard,I just get tired of these made up know alls who 20 yrs where never heard of before,I have no problem with what the NRL has done,and I think its not before time, all they have to do now having set a precedent is stick to it

]]> By: Peter Longhurst http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/12/its-time-to-change-the-nrl-boyz-club/#comment-13658 Peter Longhurst Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13658 The article is re printed in part with the good Doctor's questionable assertions cahllenged. <br /><br />"Rugby League has an entrenched, serious, and dare we say it, intractable problem with rampant s-xual abuse and misogyny within its ranks. "<br />This statement is not supported by any facts. Rampant sexual abuse? – comparative evidence would be handy<br />"Misogyny ;" Are you serious as a declared sociologist ( a what again? ) to claim by default ALL rugby league officials and players are misogynists?<br />"This culture is exacerbated and enabled by alcohol and other drug abuse " <br />Oh really? – Has the good doctor checked out the behaviour of his own university colleagues and students- just as a comparison. … and the results are? Try comparing their behaviour to wait for it – journalists , oh shock, horror.<br />." one but an example in the constant litany of assaults and violence propagated by League players ".. and how many assaults and violence are committed by say politicians, academics just for comparison of the size of the rugby league problem of 400 professional players being referred to as if they are some sort of human left overs.<br />" Given the depressing monotony of this abhorrent behaviour " Depressing monotony ? – are you kidding? Which persons are you referring to again- let me see – Wayne Bennett, Scott Prince, John Cartwright, Freddie Fittler, Don Furner, Ivan Henjack, Nathan Hindmarsh – no .. then just exactly who are you categorizing so wantonly and so aggressively without recourse to any facts.<br /> " the League has a culture of inappropriate attitudes and behaviours towards women." Simply an untrue statement. A non intelligent rant.<br />"Is it because they are evidently not working, given that the abysmal behaviour of players is the same this year as last year, just as it was five, 10 and 30 years ago? " Doctor , tell me when did YOU stop beating your wife? Stupid question – just as stupid as your unfounded assertion.<br />Oh Doctor . Oh - please be helpful not abusive! The article is re printed in part with the good Doctor’s questionable assertions cahllenged.

“Rugby League has an entrenched, serious, and dare we say it, intractable problem with rampant s-xual abuse and misogyny within its ranks. “
This statement is not supported by any facts. Rampant sexual abuse? – comparative evidence would be handy
“Misogyny ;” Are you serious as a declared sociologist ( a what again? ) to claim by default ALL rugby league officials and players are misogynists?
“This culture is exacerbated and enabled by alcohol and other drug abuse ”
Oh really? – Has the good doctor checked out the behaviour of his own university colleagues and students- just as a comparison. … and the results are? Try comparing their behaviour to wait for it – journalists , oh shock, horror.
.” one but an example in the constant litany of assaults and violence propagated by League players “.. and how many assaults and violence are committed by say politicians, academics just for comparison of the size of the rugby league problem of 400 professional players being referred to as if they are some sort of human left overs.
” Given the depressing monotony of this abhorrent behaviour ” Depressing monotony ? – are you kidding? Which persons are you referring to again- let me see – Wayne Bennett, Scott Prince, John Cartwright, Freddie Fittler, Don Furner, Ivan Henjack, Nathan Hindmarsh – no .. then just exactly who are you categorizing so wantonly and so aggressively without recourse to any facts.
” the League has a culture of inappropriate attitudes and behaviours towards women.” Simply an untrue statement. A non intelligent rant.
“Is it because they are evidently not working, given that the abysmal behaviour of players is the same this year as last year, just as it was five, 10 and 30 years ago? ” Doctor , tell me when did YOU stop beating your wife? Stupid question – just as stupid as your unfounded assertion.
Oh Doctor . Oh - please be helpful not abusive!

]]> By: Peter Longhurst http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/03/12/its-time-to-change-the-nrl-boyz-club/#comment-13659 Peter Longhurst Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13659 The article is re printed in part with the good Doctor's questionable assertions challenged. <br /><br />"Rugby League has an entrenched, serious, and dare we say it, intractable problem with rampant s-xual abuse and misogyny within its ranks. "<br />This statement is not supported by any facts. Rampant sexual abuse? – comparative evidence would be handy<br />"Misogyny ;" Are you serious as a declared sociologist ( a what again? ) to claim by default ALL rugby league officials and players are misogynists?<br />"This culture is exacerbated and enabled by alcohol and other drug abuse " <br />Oh really? – Has the good doctor checked out the behaviour of his own university colleagues and students- just as a comparison. … and the results are? Try comparing their behaviour to wait for it – journalists , oh shock, horror.<br />." one but an example in the constant litany of assaults and violence propagated by League players ".. and how many assaults and violence are committed by say politicians, academics just for comparison of the size of the rugby league problem of 400 professional players being referred to as if they are some sort of human left overs.<br />" Given the depressing monotony of this abhorrent behaviour " Depressing monotony ? – are you kidding? Which persons are you referring to again- let me see – Wayne Bennett, Scott Prince, John Cartwright, Freddie Fittler, Don Furner, Ivan Henjack, Nathan Hindmarsh – no .. then just exactly who are you categorizing so wantonly and so aggressively without recourse to any facts.<br /> " the League has a culture of inappropriate attitudes and behaviours towards women." Simply an untrue statement. A non intelligent rant.<br />"Is it because they are evidently not working, given that the abysmal behaviour of players is the same this year as last year, just as it was five, 10 and 30 years ago? " Doctor , tell me when did YOU stop beating your wife? Stupid question – just as stupid as your unfounded assertion.<br />Oh Doctor . Oh - please be helpful not abusive! The article is re printed in part with the good Doctor’s questionable assertions challenged.

“Rugby League has an entrenched, serious, and dare we say it, intractable problem with rampant s-xual abuse and misogyny within its ranks. “
This statement is not supported by any facts. Rampant sexual abuse? – comparative evidence would be handy
“Misogyny ;” Are you serious as a declared sociologist ( a what again? ) to claim by default ALL rugby league officials and players are misogynists?
“This culture is exacerbated and enabled by alcohol and other drug abuse ”
Oh really? – Has the good doctor checked out the behaviour of his own university colleagues and students- just as a comparison. … and the results are? Try comparing their behaviour to wait for it – journalists , oh shock, horror.
.” one but an example in the constant litany of assaults and violence propagated by League players “.. and how many assaults and violence are committed by say politicians, academics just for comparison of the size of the rugby league problem of 400 professional players being referred to as if they are some sort of human left overs.
” Given the depressing monotony of this abhorrent behaviour ” Depressing monotony ? – are you kidding? Which persons are you referring to again- let me see – Wayne Bennett, Scott Prince, John Cartwright, Freddie Fittler, Don Furner, Ivan Henjack, Nathan Hindmarsh – no .. then just exactly who are you categorizing so wantonly and so aggressively without recourse to any facts.
” the League has a culture of inappropriate attitudes and behaviours towards women.” Simply an untrue statement. A non intelligent rant.
“Is it because they are evidently not working, given that the abysmal behaviour of players is the same this year as last year, just as it was five, 10 and 30 years ago? ” Doctor , tell me when did YOU stop beating your wife? Stupid question – just as stupid as your unfounded assertion.
Oh Doctor . Oh - please be helpful not abusive!

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