Costello tries to hose down Catch the Fire connection
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What an appalling hypocrite Peter Costello is. “It is beyond the bounds of decency to try to make moral or political points out of such a tragedy,” he said about the attempts by prize religious wingnut Danny Nalliah’s effort to link the bushfires with abortion. Costello could do little else, despite being good mates with Nalliah and the now inaptly-named Catch the Fire Ministries. But it’s odd that Costello has waited until this late juncture to criticise his friends, who are prone to visions about Hamlet Prince of Malvern being handed the Prime Ministership by Jesus. Here are some other quotes from the Catch the Fire crowd that Costello hasn’t objected to.
In fact CTF has very strong views on Islam, which formed the basis of the prosecution of Nalliah and colleague Danny Scot in 2005 for vilification. The original judgement against them was overturned on appeal, and CTF settled the matter with the Islamic Council of Victoria. But the appeal court found that Scot had said the following:
The appeal judge also said that “Pastor Scot did assert, incorrectly, that the population of Muslims in Australia is growing such as to double every seven years and said that ‘so that is how they are growing, so because they have control over our Immigration Department and they bring all type of people.’” Nary a word from of condemnation from Costello for any of these comments. In fact, Costello boasted of his support for Nalliah during the appeal, and blamed the Islamic Council of Victoria for being offended. “The Equal Opportunity Commission sensibly, sent some people out and said, ‘Go out and listen to this man’s sermons and see if you can get offended’. And lo and behold they did get offended.” And then there’s Nalliah’s attendance at a meeting of the anti-Semitic League of Rights. Nalliah recounted “one guy in the crowd put his hand up and said ‘Do you believe in the Holocaust?’ … I said ‘To deny the Holocaust would be like saying there will be no daybreak tomorrow morning’.” Holocaust denier Fredrick Töben recalls it differently. He asked the question, and said Nalliah “replied indirectly that Jews had suffered greatly in the past.” When he asked the question again, Nalliah “said something about not knowing anything about the topic.” It was only a fortnight ago that Peter Costello was happily sharing his own deeply-held religious views (including that the Ten Commandments forms the basis of Australian civic life) with this mob, with no apparent qualms about their views on Islam, homos-xuality, the Holocaust, race war or raising people from the dead. But as soon they say something likely to offend regular voters, he turns on them in a moment, as if he would never have suspected they held such absurd beliefs. At least Nalliah is happy to display his fundamentalist lunacy for all to see. |
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Surely beyond question, JamesK, are your ludicrously pompous pretensions.
There is an ancient rule that states that the pompous man will always make an ass of himself. It is written in the Judeo-Christian social structure and Confucius very wisely said something similar.
Yes did Cathy. On this very website in fact. I do not agree with the conclusions that you have drawn.
I think we deserve a photo of Bernard ‘au violet chemise’
@Andy: Are we talking or arson?
The conversation has taken a lewd turn since I last checked in.
What was wrong with my purple shirt? I’m wearing it again today.
And so is David Sanderson.
But even God knows that.
@ andy and god ..I think its the cock crowing one or twice before the third denial which isn’t all that offensive to Peter.
As for the purple shirt being obscene that’s again a personal thing. If the rest of the gallery isn’t guffawing or finger-pointing I reckon it must be alright.
Sorry about the delay. My main search engine has just had a hissie fit.
Bernard, I must have been thinking about my late grandmother. Tiny and v latin, Corsican actually, and v beautiful. She had an elderly boyfriend who was always threatening to ‘go people scone hot’. A memory I cherish. She was the sister of my great-aunt Maria Paz Dolores, who came from. Enough Venise! It is hard enough to live in the present. Don’t drag the past into the equation.
Cal: Yes, I take your point. But surely the people you mention aren’t thick upon the ground in Israel? If I am wrong I apologize, with sincerity.
One consolation is that a lot of these churches set themselves up in outlying urban suburbs…like Alaska.
Marilyn omitted the Armenians. Clearly she supports genocide when it’s done by the Turks.
Shame, Shepherd, shame.
It is not surprising to see costello suck up to this mob - my liberal in manly believes the world is 6,000 years old - who finds these imbeciles!
Marilyn, I decide the news, not you.
This pastor danny is an evil parisite, people like this lead groups many weak of mind into believing this type of dribble then giving 10 % of there earnings so pastor danny and his like can live lavish tax free lifestyle.
That people with power have any association with this deluded psychopath is disturbing. A career politician subsidised by public monies, more so.
Thank god for the christians.
How many times was Costello asked for his views about Catch a Fire? Traditionally Peter gets asked the question three times, and then there’s the thing with the cock.
But wait, there’s more about CTF Mufti Danny Boy who takes the Low Road. And if you thought the smelly stuff was confined to Muslims - the rest of us better listen up.
Take a look at these direct quotes from a Catch the Fire Ministries Inc brochure entitled ’ Rise Up Australia. A Call to Prayer & Repentance ’ Under the heading of Prayer Strategy, devotees are asked to: -
* ” Spot Satan’s strongholds in the area you are living in ( brothels, gambling places, bottle shops, mosque, temples - Freemason/Buddhist/Hindu, etc., witchcraft) “
and
* ” If you are ready to pray against it, do so. If not bring it to your church and ask your intercessors, through the pastor, to pull these strongholds down. “
In the same brochure there’s a paragraph that could explain Pete Costello’s bewitchment, hugathons and feel-the-love videos with Catch the Fire and the self-professed Miracle Man, Pastor Danny Nalliah, or as he’s now better known, Pastor Danny Nullius.
Under a heading ’ Points of Prayer. YOUR HOUR OF COMMITMENT is this
clue:
* ” Pray for Godly leaders to rise up in parliament (that Christian politicians would rise up. ” They were also asked to ” Pray for the Prime Minister, Hon.John Howard and the parliament. ” And look what happened to him - and them.
More importantly does Peter Costello look in the mirror and question his convictions? He’s liverish with the Liberals contemptuous of Catch the Fire and at odds with most things in life including his religion. He’s in a mid-life crisis and few people care. How sad.
JamesK - Did you watch Costello’s address to the CTF Melbourne gathering. He left no doubt he valued this organisation’s presence and was highly familiar with its teachings. Then he slams them for stepping outside a particular boundary that offends him (or his political leaning) Who cares if he or his brother are Christian. It doesn’t excuse him from being a hypocrite.
costello cannot run away from the stench emanating from him as a result of his wallowing in ordure for so long.
Venise, I wasn’t ignoring anything. I stated I had no time for Nalliah or Costello. The former is stupid and dangerouse, especially to those who would follow this dim wit. Costello is clealry smart, he is just supremely slimey in his effort to cuddle up to fundementalists, which was a Liberal strategy in 2004 which saw them sweep all the Pentecostals and fundementalist churche-goers that didn’t vote Family First. This was Howard’s idea, and is thoroughly covered in “God Under Howard”.
All I said was that there was a biblical precedent for Nalliah’s rants. It doesn’t excuse; it just explains, to some degree. There is a big, big difference.
And among the wallowing in compassion for the bush fire victims have a single one of them noted that the catastrophe in Gaza was 10 times greater and deliberately inflicted on a population with a median age of 17 years and 2 months?
Nothing, nada and zip. No insurance for them, no collections from Australians, just “they deserved it”.
From all these nice christians.
I do get so tired of this obsession with jews and the holocaust though. They were not the majority of the people killed last century but we don’t carry on endlessly about the 1 million serbs, the millions of Polish catholics, the Roma, the disabled, the homosexuals and all manner of others Hitler didn’t like.
And in any case were those murders any different to the murders in Hiroshima, Dresden, Cambodia, Vietnam, Rwanda, Russia, Germany (3 million civilians murdered and 16 million ethnically cleansed by the nice, kind “allies” after the war), the 800,000 Palestinians driven off their land and so on.
Why is it OK for the world to deny the Nakba of the Palestinians, pretend to forget that the land is Palestine and always support the rogue non-state actor that refuses to set any borders or write a constitution and not to deny that jews were killed.
Jews were killed, but so were over 110 million other people.
Consent and advise
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That is not a quick question, it is a quick insult and a stupid one too.
@Andy: What’s Peter’s thing with the cock?
@JamesK: Did you really mean arson or did you mean arse on?
Damn, I was just coming back to make the same remark as Bernard. I’m very hot about the Armenian Holocaust. Equally so because Israel refuses to recognize the plight of the Armenians. Too much competition I suppose.
How splendidly spiffing JamesK, the Judaeo -Christian culture….Silly me. I thought our laws had largely imposed upon us by a bunch of smart micks on the make. Via the English law courts, of course.
Your last statement was unforgivably wrong. No one with a substantial, private income, politically funded or not. Would have worn the purple shirt Bernard wore on Channel 7. No no no!
Andy: Really? I knew he had no balls but he’s deficient in the ‘C’ area as well? I can’t say I’m surprised.
Sean - UK, NZ or Israeli?
Quick question: Is Bernard Keane on the Labour Party payroll?
The Liberal Party was lucky it didn’t have Costello as leader. His leadership aspirations just caught fire.
And Danny, that’s not my voice you keep hearing. You are having hallucinations and suffering from delusions. You need to see a psychiatrist urgently.
Is anybody surprised by the friends the disgusting Costello keeps? He, Howard, Abbott, and hypocritical lackeys like Kevin Andrews with the black-boot-polish-died hair, compromised everything decent and honourable in this country for the sake of political advantage and the pursuit of power. Rudd may be a disappointment to many of us in various ways, but his cohort looks almost saintly compared to the odious rabble that preceded them.
Phill, I accept your thanks.
Venise, what’s your problem? I merely provided a bit of background on Danny and said that reasonable (or sane) people can believe some pretty nutty things. So what?
That a book written thousands of years ago means something to Christians (and Muslims) is pretty much stating thew obvious. If you don’t appreciate a little dose of sanity or context to a discussion, then you’re just here to rant, not to think any deeper than you are doing at present (which is not much).
If you thought my post was an excuse for Nalliah then you are challenged by any sense of nuance. Scream all you like. I was only writing soberly and with reason.
I have no time for either Nalliah or the simpler of the Costello brothers. But if you want to lock up everyone who believes something stupid, then I think you will be caught up in that dragnet yourself. Like those fundementaists you despise, you evidence a similar lack of ability to understand context, balance, subtlety and fairness.
HTF did Israel-no offence intended- enter a discussion about the nausea- inducing, great-pretender of politics. The man who started out pretending to have balls only to produce at every chance he got…. marbles. Peter Costello costalotta. Peter did you catch your pecker as well as your boll-cks in a mangle?
Hot, Venise? As in, typing one-handed, so hot right now?
Whatever floats your boat, I guess…
Venise - only some elements of the Right downplay the Armenian genocide for rank political purposes (i.e. Turkish support of Israel). I think you’ll find the leading genocide scholars, most of whom are Jewish, are at the forefront of keeping the plight of Armenians in the public domain. Sadly, it’s ignorant bigots like Marilyn who seek to rank death and murder in some kind of order and as Bernard so rightly says, she lets the Turks off without a mention.
You are doing God’s work here, Bernard.
Sorry, only joking - an excellent skewering of the smarmy, self-satisfied git.
Look, Danny Nalliah is not a nut case, he just believes some pretty nutty things — much like Scientologists.
But his point about ‘takiyya’ is correct. Muslims feel no obligation to tell the truth to the infidel. In fact, lying to protect Islam is a positive virtue. I was on his side in the VCAT case, much as I am not that fond of raving fundementalists. Read Ibn Warrack’s “Why I am Not a Muslim” and you will see a secular critique of Islam similar to Nalliah’s on many points.
Needless to say, his staements on the bushfires was offensive in the extreme. But you had fundementalists saying similar things in the US after September 11. It basically takes a theme from the Old Testament that many of the woes of Israel were because the nation had forsaken their God. It’s presumptive in the exytreme to think they are speaking for God, but there is a at least a biblical precedent for these types of statements.
“Christian” is a jewish word meaning hypocrite
“Jewish” is a christian word meaning hypocrite
“Costello” is a judeo-christian type of high cholesterol cheese.
Is Danny the farting preacher?
Dan: Your comment sounds a tad like an excuse. The fact that the far lunatic right in USA said the same things about 9/11 proves, or excuses nothing.
The mad mullahs of Islam and the mad mullahs of the lunatic right as as bad as each other. One of these days it will be necessary to lock these sort of people up in order to protect the rest of the community.
If people are cretinous enough to believe either of these two extremes. They will be cretinous enough to believe what these par-boiled lunatics are saying.
If Peter Costalotta Costello has jumped off your band-waggon you would be wise to give it up. Costello has never had the balls to have any kind of conviction. Sorry, but it’s just a poisonous example of rats leaving a sinking ship.
Finally, I fail to see the relevance of a book written over two thousand years ago to the bushfires of today. It’s people like you who help the half-witted to become rank amateurs about life.
Marilyn you are one very sick and twisted person. The tragic bushfires have bugger all to do with Gaza. Are you seriously suggesting that tonight’s news should be: “Over 180 die in Victorian bushfires - but this is nothing compared to what’s happening in the middle-east!”
Or how about “Hundreds of innocent people are burnt to death, but lots of other people die to, so let’s focus on them!”
Honestly, your comments are beyond offensive. They are perverted and show no compassion for what happened here on Saturday. I suggest you keep your vile views to yourself - or better yet, go migrate to Gaza. I’m sure you’d be welcomed there.
Costello the c-nt has been busy these past few years building a bridge between himself and the electorate. A bridge so low; and under which not even an ant could walk.
As for the ranter of The Ring of Fire, Nalliah the nerd: I didn’t realize the the real bushfires had engulfed all of our mental institutions.
Dan: I withdraw one comment only. To rant about locking up evil was silly of me. An exercise in futility.
Apparently I lack the wit, the subtlety; the finesse of balance, fairness and every other adjective you have thrown at me to understand your comment. Too true. Stripped of its verbiage I perceive your statement to be an excuse for the wretched reverend.
Yes, all forms of fundamentalism are sickening but I said that in a previous blog. Why the need to state that Muslim’s feel obligated to lie to protect Islam. Gosh, I must know some terrible liars!
Biblical precedent has relevance in today’s world? Isn’t this what Muslim extremism bases it’s ideology upon? A a book which is as out of date as your own bible. With the assistance of moderate and mute Christianity the Nalliah’s of this world have no brakes, the first people to fall for this codswallop are those who are not the sharpest knives in the draw. It needs moderate Christians to criticize him.
I don’t remember saying the man was a nut case. To dismiss the Pol Pots, Hitler’s and Stalin’s of this world as being psychotic is far too easy an out.
Dan: I think atheists have as much right as your lot to feel outrage at what we believe to be mass idiocy. I would have thought Peter Costello’s actions delineated the ease with which people will climb aboard a band-waggon and unite to serve a sorry religion.
Dan: For evil to succeed all that is necessary is for moderates to ignore it. Starting with you.
No wonder the hypocrite from Higgins banned Crikey from the press gallery for all those years. He couldn’t bear to read in the mirror. Yes our former Treasurer is in permanent damage control inside and outside the parliament and if the Liberals weren’t in the same shape they’d tell him he’s more irresponsible and reckless than anything in Rudd’s stimulus package. The nation’s former Treasurer hooking up with some spark-tossing religious extremists to fast-track visions of leadership and life in the Lodge is bizarre. Any wonder he got his tabernacles burnt after speaking with his lips and not his heart. The very least Judas of the backbenches can do now is pack his cassock and parliamentary epithet for other pastures and in case he’s the silly cut snake we know him to be Malcolm Turnbull should look for some of his own secret rituals under his occasional Jewish hat.
Peter Costello was emphatic and unequivocal in his denunciation of Danny Nalliah.
That ancient rules of Judaeo-Christian culture form the basis of social structure in this country is surely beyond question.
The Peter Costello is, like his brother, unashamedly Christian is also surely beyond question.
The only question remaining is: Has Bernard Keane declared his overseas politically funded income?
If the “old believe everything; the middle aged suspect everything: the young know everything” then I’ve got no idea how old my inseminator is.
But He is clearly a f-ckwit.
Sorry should read: denial or arson?