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	<title>Comments on: Flip-flop Flannery is a climate change opportunist</title>
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		<title>By: Ray Barker</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/02/05/flip-flop-flannery-is-a-climate-change-opportunist/#comment-23861</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Barker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim Flannery &#039;professes&#039; to know a lot about climate change.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To back up his theory that the world is warming, and the seas are rising, Flannery reminded viewers of Andrew Denton&#039;s Enough Rope series that thousands of years ago you could walk from Tasmania to Victoria.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Once upon a time, inland Australia was covered by sea. So, according to the straws of science grasped by the professor, this would prove the world is actually cooling!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim Flannery &#8216;professes&#8217; to know a lot about climate change.</p>
<p>To back up his theory that the world is warming, and the seas are rising, Flannery reminded viewers of Andrew Denton&#8217;s Enough Rope series that thousands of years ago you could walk from Tasmania to Victoria.</p>
<p>Once upon a time, inland Australia was covered by sea. So, according to the straws of science grasped by the professor, this would prove the world is actually cooling!</p>
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		<title>By: Rod Campbell-Ross</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/02/05/flip-flop-flannery-is-a-climate-change-opportunist/#comment-23862</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod Campbell-Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is disappointing that Crikey publishes articles that are climate and peak oil skeptical.&lt;br /&gt;Some learning would be a good idea.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As to the specific question posed: there are no silver bullets. As usual the biggest part of the solution was not even proffered: use less. So nuclear, etc are all important, but using less is critical too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is disappointing that Crikey publishes articles that are climate and peak oil skeptical.<br />Some learning would be a good idea.</p>
<p>As to the specific question posed: there are no silver bullets. As usual the biggest part of the solution was not even proffered: use less. So nuclear, etc are all important, but using less is critical too.</p>
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		<title>By: expiscor</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/02/05/flip-flop-flannery-is-a-climate-change-opportunist/#comment-23863</link>
		<dc:creator>expiscor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time Flannery seems like a really nice guy, bursting with ideas who naturally wants to share them with everyone.  He was initially an English major who moved into science.  However some of his closest biology colleagues and mentors refer to him privately as Flim Flannery.  Apparently there is a bit of a lack of rigour in his scientific approach, a fair dash of opportunism, and a preference for the rhetorical flourish.  He&#039;s worth listening to, but proceed with caution.  He&#039;s a bit more interested in being agreeable, not really challenging the fundamental causes of the environment crisis.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Clive Hamilton espouses a consistent, compassionate and courageous vision for Australia based on sound universal principles of fairness and equity.  He cops it from both sides sometimes (e.g. latest net censorship debate), and he rubs some people the wrong way (he was once a little rude to my wife), but his vision has much more substance because it doesn&#039;t avoid addressing the basic underlying economic and political causes of environmental degradation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time Flannery seems like a really nice guy, bursting with ideas who naturally wants to share them with everyone.  He was initially an English major who moved into science.  However some of his closest biology colleagues and mentors refer to him privately as Flim Flannery.  Apparently there is a bit of a lack of rigour in his scientific approach, a fair dash of opportunism, and a preference for the rhetorical flourish.  He&#8217;s worth listening to, but proceed with caution.  He&#8217;s a bit more interested in being agreeable, not really challenging the fundamental causes of the environment crisis.</p>
<p>Clive Hamilton espouses a consistent, compassionate and courageous vision for Australia based on sound universal principles of fairness and equity.  He cops it from both sides sometimes (e.g. latest net censorship debate), and he rubs some people the wrong way (he was once a little rude to my wife), but his vision has much more substance because it doesn&#8217;t avoid addressing the basic underlying economic and political causes of environmental degradation.</p>
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		<title>By: Graemel</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/02/05/flip-flop-flannery-is-a-climate-change-opportunist/#comment-23864</link>
		<dc:creator>Graemel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All Clive H ever does is sling s..t. A bit of scientific substance might persuade someone but it is never there in any of his writings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All Clive H ever does is sling s..t. A bit of scientific substance might persuade someone but it is never there in any of his writings</p>
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		<title>By: Tom McLoughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/02/05/flip-flop-flannery-is-a-climate-change-opportunist/#comment-23865</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom McLoughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A little morale booster for Flim Flam - as a teenager I might have played for the VFL but contact lenses pursuaded me to get an education instead. Then as a science graduate I was a better lawyer. But as a lawyer I was a much better political activist. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Which is a long way of saying according to my judgement, Flim Flam got the freezer stare from Howard start of 2007, and refused to baulk. He went at it and made himself really very unpopular with that dinosaur regime. This was a great achievement Timbo, no risk. And that&#039;s despite my childhood buddy Ben McHenry later at South Australia museum being quite uncomplimentary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just as Peter Garrett for his many sins also surely helped thwart the Howard vision of a domestic nuclear ... weapons capacity here either of our own or via a US military base. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s a swings and roundabouts sort of reality methinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little morale booster for Flim Flam - as a teenager I might have played for the VFL but contact lenses pursuaded me to get an education instead. Then as a science graduate I was a better lawyer. But as a lawyer I was a much better political activist. </p>
<p>Which is a long way of saying according to my judgement, Flim Flam got the freezer stare from Howard start of 2007, and refused to baulk. He went at it and made himself really very unpopular with that dinosaur regime. This was a great achievement Timbo, no risk. And that&#8217;s despite my childhood buddy Ben McHenry later at South Australia museum being quite uncomplimentary.</p>
<p>Just as Peter Garrett for his many sins also surely helped thwart the Howard vision of a domestic nuclear &#8230; weapons capacity here either of our own or via a US military base. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a swings and roundabouts sort of reality methinks.</p>
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		<title>By: mike smith</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/02/05/flip-flop-flannery-is-a-climate-change-opportunist/#comment-23866</link>
		<dc:creator>mike smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flip-Flopping?  Yeah, right.  It&#039;s now become a derogatory adjective apparently.   When it really indicates the ability to think flexibly, and admit you were wrong.  Something many scientists seam reluctant to do, especially in this field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flip-Flopping?  Yeah, right.  It&#8217;s now become a derogatory adjective apparently.   When it really indicates the ability to think flexibly, and admit you were wrong.  Something many scientists seam reluctant to do, especially in this field.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Bower</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/02/05/flip-flop-flannery-is-a-climate-change-opportunist/#comment-23867</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Bower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clive Hamilton has hit the nail on the head. As a biological scientist I have never been a fan of Flannery and his outpourings. Flannery is an &#039;ideas&#039; person, rather than a deeply analytical scientist. His career success is based on the development of headline-catching, often controversial conjectures that capture the popular imagination. His writings scratch together evidence that supports his ideas, ignoring everything that doesn&#039;t. He seems to have little interest in testing his own hypotheses scientifically, leaving that to others. In the process misconceptions are propagated that become fixed as facts in popular culture. A good example can be found in the Journal Cunninghamia (Vol 5 No 4 1998) in which Benson and Redpath expose his breath-takingly superficial scientific approach in The Future Eaters. It is interesting that Flannery&#039;s response in that case was also to claim to have been misrepresented and misquoted. Flannery is full of helium. It&#039;s time his balloon was pricked.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(By the way, I was utterly appalled some years ago when words similar to &#039;Foreword by Tim Flannery&#039; were placed on the cover of a book in larger type than that of the author!!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clive Hamilton has hit the nail on the head. As a biological scientist I have never been a fan of Flannery and his outpourings. Flannery is an &#8216;ideas&#8217; person, rather than a deeply analytical scientist. His career success is based on the development of headline-catching, often controversial conjectures that capture the popular imagination. His writings scratch together evidence that supports his ideas, ignoring everything that doesn&#8217;t. He seems to have little interest in testing his own hypotheses scientifically, leaving that to others. In the process misconceptions are propagated that become fixed as facts in popular culture. A good example can be found in the Journal Cunninghamia (Vol 5 No 4 1998) in which Benson and Redpath expose his breath-takingly superficial scientific approach in The Future Eaters. It is interesting that Flannery&#8217;s response in that case was also to claim to have been misrepresented and misquoted. Flannery is full of helium. It&#8217;s time his balloon was pricked.</p>
<p>(By the way, I was utterly appalled some years ago when words similar to &#8216;Foreword by Tim Flannery&#8217; were placed on the cover of a book in larger type than that of the author!!!)</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Strie</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/02/05/flip-flop-flannery-is-a-climate-change-opportunist/#comment-23868</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Strie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I suggest Clive Hamilton should do his homework on the issue of Biosequestration. He is doing us no favour with such cheap attached, as I he had actually listened to the interviews provided via podcast by community groups such as beyondzeroemmissions.org he would know by now how urgent the combined action of various carbon negative initiatives combined with the at best carbon neural other renewable energies.  Readers and Crikey could also assist by exploring the issues via websites like the very informative international website: http://biocharfarming.wordpress.com   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I suggest Clive Hamilton should do his homework on the issue of Biosequestration. He is doing us no favour with such cheap attached, as I he had actually listened to the interviews provided via podcast by community groups such as beyondzeroemmissions.org he would know by now how urgent the combined action of various carbon negative initiatives combined with the at best carbon neural other renewable energies.  Readers and Crikey could also assist by exploring the issues via websites like the very informative international website: <a href="http://biocharfarming.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://biocharfarming.wordpress.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: allen</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/02/05/flip-flop-flannery-is-a-climate-change-opportunist/#comment-23869</link>
		<dc:creator>allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasnt it Flannery who a half dozen years ago ripped a new one in Micheal Crichton when he came out and was sceptical of global warming? &lt;br /&gt;I may be wrong but If memory serves me correctly  wasnt  Flannery&#039;s big claim that Chricton was only an MD and fictional authorTherefore he had no &quot;expertise&quot; or authority  to talk on climate change.&lt;br /&gt;Apparently anthropologists are allowed to  write and speak adnauseum on the subject though. &lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasnt it Flannery who a half dozen years ago ripped a new one in Micheal Crichton when he came out and was sceptical of global warming? <br />I may be wrong but If memory serves me correctly  wasnt  Flannery&#8217;s big claim that Chricton was only an MD and fictional authorTherefore he had no &#8220;expertise&#8221; or authority  to talk on climate change.<br />Apparently anthropologists are allowed to  write and speak adnauseum on the subject though. </p>
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		<title>By: Tom McLoughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/02/05/flip-flop-flannery-is-a-climate-change-opportunist/#comment-23870</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom McLoughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love your work Alen ... Greer (related to Germaine?), another idealistic science tough guy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Noting in http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/letters/index.php/theaustralian/comments/only_privatisation_can_solve_the_mess_in_our_water_system/&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;dated 27 January 2007,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;LONG-time environmental ambulance chaser and now Australian of the Year Tim Flannery may anticipate conflict with John Howard over federal Government action on climate change, but that will be of little concern to the Prime Minister, who has just seen the electoral light on climate change.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What Mr Howard needed and got from this choice in an election year was a celebrity environmentalist who advocates consideration at least of nuclear energy as a climate change solution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Allen Greer&lt;br /&gt;Mudgee, NSW &lt;br /&gt;.............................................&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ouch again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love your work Alen &#8230; Greer (related to Germaine?), another idealistic science tough guy.</p>
<p>Noting in <a href="http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/letters/index.php/theaustralian/comments/only_privatisation_can_solve_the_mess_in_our_water_system/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/letters/index.php/theaustralian/comments/only_privatisation_can_solve_the_mess_in_our_water_system/</a></p>
<p>dated 27 January 2007,</p>
<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>LONG-time environmental ambulance chaser and now Australian of the Year Tim Flannery may anticipate conflict with John Howard over federal Government action on climate change, but that will be of little concern to the Prime Minister, who has just seen the electoral light on climate change.</p>
<p>What Mr Howard needed and got from this choice in an election year was a celebrity environmentalist who advocates consideration at least of nuclear energy as a climate change solution.</p>
<p>Allen Greer<br />Mudgee, NSW <br />&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Ouch again.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/02/05/flip-flop-flannery-is-a-climate-change-opportunist/#comment-23871</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can see your point of view - I was alarmed listening to Flannery on radio about India going nuclear energy - what about a renewable industry? However, I&#039;m willing to listen and process and think about what he is saying. He is like all of us, coming to terms with how best to save our souls and our planet. He&#039;s allowed to say I&#039;ve been looking at it further and I&#039;ve changed my mind. It&#039;s all part of the dialogue we have to have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can see your point of view - I was alarmed listening to Flannery on radio about India going nuclear energy - what about a renewable industry? However, I&#8217;m willing to listen and process and think about what he is saying. He is like all of us, coming to terms with how best to save our souls and our planet. He&#8217;s allowed to say I&#8217;ve been looking at it further and I&#8217;ve changed my mind. It&#8217;s all part of the dialogue we have to have.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/02/05/flip-flop-flannery-is-a-climate-change-opportunist/#comment-23872</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a response from Tim Flannery. Has he been contacted? It would be good to hear from him&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a response from Tim Flannery. Has he been contacted? It would be good to hear from him</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Byrne</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/02/05/flip-flop-flannery-is-a-climate-change-opportunist/#comment-23873</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clive,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Arn&#039;t there more worthy targets before we start turning on those who are genuinely working for action? Tim might have made some mistakes, but what is this strategy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clive,</p>
<p>Arn&#8217;t there more worthy targets before we start turning on those who are genuinely working for action? Tim might have made some mistakes, but what is this strategy?</p>
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		<title>By: allen</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/02/05/flip-flop-flannery-is-a-climate-change-opportunist/#comment-23874</link>
		<dc:creator>allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>arthropologist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>arthropologist</p>
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		<title>By: Pauline Clynes</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/02/05/flip-flop-flannery-is-a-climate-change-opportunist/#comment-23875</link>
		<dc:creator>Pauline Clynes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clive Hamilton has expressed what I have long suspected - that Tim Flannery&#039;s views are popularist and lacking in substance.  Tim has certainly increased the general level of interest in climate change issues and deserves credit for doing so, but there has been a fair amount of self promotion along the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clive Hamilton has expressed what I have long suspected - that Tim Flannery&#8217;s views are popularist and lacking in substance.  Tim has certainly increased the general level of interest in climate change issues and deserves credit for doing so, but there has been a fair amount of self promotion along the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Duffett</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/02/05/flip-flop-flannery-is-a-climate-change-opportunist/#comment-23876</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Duffett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What is his solution to greenhouse pollution -- solar energy, nuclear power, geothermal, &quot;clean coal&quot; or biochar?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Simple answer:  We&#039;ll need all of them, and then some.  This isn&#039;t an either/or question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>What is his solution to greenhouse pollution&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;solar energy, nuclear power, geothermal, &#8220;clean coal&#8221; or biochar?&#8221;</p>
<p>Simple answer:  We&#8217;ll need all of them, and then some.  This isn&#8217;t an either/or question.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Glikson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/02/05/flip-flop-flannery-is-a-climate-change-opportunist/#comment-23877</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Glikson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The predicament natural scientists (climate scientists, ecologists, biologists, botanists, some Earth scientists, paleontologists) have found themselves,  once they have identified the magnitude and pace of dangerous climate change, needs to be looked at in perspective.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Identifying the unthinkable, namely a return of the atmosphere and oceans to pre-ice age conditions, with  implications for life and civilization which can hardly be contemplated, they arrived at a situation analogous to an astronomer detecting a comet speeding toward Earth, yet no one wants to believe! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Each of these scientists responds in a different way, including a myriad mistakes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But compare their efforts with the silent majority of scientists who are familiar with the critical evidence, yet would not express it in public. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or with the minority of well-publicized and mainstream media-supported people who exercise denial under the guise of &quot;skepticism&quot;, argue with established facts, try to re-write the basic laws of nature and the chemistry and physics of the atmosphere,  and use ad-hominem and conspiracy theories against climate scientists, indeed often opposed to the scientific method..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or with the inaction of the democratically elected leaders whose first and foremost responsibility is to protect the people and the future generations.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The predicament natural scientists (climate scientists, ecologists, biologists, botanists, some Earth scientists, paleontologists) have found themselves,  once they have identified the magnitude and pace of dangerous climate change, needs to be looked at in perspective.</p>
<p>Identifying the unthinkable, namely a return of the atmosphere and oceans to pre-ice age conditions, with  implications for life and civilization which can hardly be contemplated, they arrived at a situation analogous to an astronomer detecting a comet speeding toward Earth, yet no one wants to believe! </p>
<p>Each of these scientists responds in a different way, including a myriad mistakes.</p>
<p>But compare their efforts with the silent majority of scientists who are familiar with the critical evidence, yet would not express it in public. </p>
<p>Or with the minority of well-publicized and mainstream media-supported people who exercise denial under the guise of &#8220;skepticism&#8221;, argue with established facts, try to re-write the basic laws of nature and the chemistry and physics of the atmosphere,  and use ad-hominem and conspiracy theories against climate scientists, indeed often opposed to the scientific method..</p>
<p>Or with the inaction of the democratically elected leaders whose first and foremost responsibility is to protect the people and the future generations.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom McLoughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/02/05/flip-flop-flannery-is-a-climate-change-opportunist/#comment-23878</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom McLoughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch. One could refer to glass houses I suppose and evidence that. But really it&#039;s just too hot and muggy in Sydney to argue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is no doubt both Hamilton and Flannery have alot of skills and talent to offer on this terrible challenge, and as political campaigners are both too easily exploited by both major parties.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;True Flannery has always been indebted to industry since that grant money from big mining (?) to study the fauna and flora of PNG.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hamilton on the other hand was a servant of the Hawke regime&#039;s qango the Resource Assessment Commission which did a very good job too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My vote goes to Mickey Rouke in The Wrestler, all others please take a cold shower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch. One could refer to glass houses I suppose and evidence that. But really it&#8217;s just too hot and muggy in Sydney to argue.</p>
<p>There is no doubt both Hamilton and Flannery have alot of skills and talent to offer on this terrible challenge, and as political campaigners are both too easily exploited by both major parties.</p>
<p>True Flannery has always been indebted to industry since that grant money from big mining (?) to study the fauna and flora of PNG.</p>
<p>Hamilton on the other hand was a servant of the Hawke regime&#8217;s qango the Resource Assessment Commission which did a very good job too.</p>
<p>My vote goes to Mickey Rouke in The Wrestler, all others please take a cold shower.</p>
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