J’accuse: The Age has some explaining to do over Backman affair
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Paul Ramadge, the editor of The Age, has some explaining to do. He isn’t doing it. What does it take these days to get a Fairfax editor — or anybody from Fairfax — to come forward and tell us what they are doing, and why? This morning in The Australian former Age editor Michael Gawenda criticises his old paper for a failure of journalism, both because it published an anti-Semitic column by writer Michael Backman last Saturday, but also because it has failed to explain itself subsequently. Instead, on page two yesterday, the paper carried a strange apology saying the column was published “in error”, almost as though it was a matter of a production stuff up. Meanwhile the newsroom is tense and upset over the affair — and fearful that blame will be laid where it doesn’t belong. For the full background on this story, including what the Jewish lobby did, how the column was published and what I think about it, read my blog. But surely what is needed now is some frankness. The Age needs to explain what went wrong, and articulate where it sees the boundary between publishing legitimate, if controversial views, and unacceptable racism. |
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Personally, I was very offended by the dreadful piece that The Age ran today from the pen of Mark Liebler.
Very clearly, it was a further sop to the Jewish community. In his attack on Malcolm Fraser, Liebler managed to let the cat out of the bag in regard to the Israeli government’s real agenda…the removal of the Hamas government.
That he should talk not about the democratic election victory as a clear win for Hamas but chose to describe it as a plurality of votes is just astounding…a fantasy straight out of the handbook of the Israeli Foreign Minister’s most unbelievable mentor,Mark Regev. Even now, Israel is now bellowing that Hamas should even be denied a say in the re-construction of Gaza. If only the wider world could have a say in the reconstruction of the Tel Aviv government! Hopefully, President Obama will shake off their shackles as well as their shekels.
I can only assume that also letters addressed to the editor of The Age that are in any way critical of Israel or its representatives in Melbourne are now directed to Regev for his opinion before publication.
It is about time that the Israelies did a reality check and it is about time the Jews stopped being so precious. My respect and enthusiasm I had on the establishment of Israel has been destroyed by the brutal behaviour to the Arabs. When “antisemitic” is screamed from the roof tops remember that Palestinians are also Semites and they have had more than their share antisemitism, first from the Europeans and now from the Israelies. Having read Michael Backman’s blog I can only agree with the general substance,
I would think it is now time for the US to stop financially supporting the Israel war machine and it would be reasonable that savings be spent on repair some of the damage in Gaza.
Who can blame Israelies or Palestinians for misrepresenting facts and using every means they have to spin global perception in their favour. They have been at war for more than 50 years now!
Don’t let yourselves get caught up in their war or polemics. Political discourse from our distance should grant us the luxury of being able to discuss solutions from a position of objectivity.
Thanks LittleJimmyKoward for republishing all of my posts…….as I’ve said many a time, through your racist, bigoted tosh on Crikey, you really ARE a top flight contributor to HAMAS’ image in Australia.
Australia’s Palestinians & decent Jews salute you.
Ans no Kevin, I’m not in fact a member of the hook nosed “Nazi SS” but if you are the enemy I stand side by side with them….
Of course the apologists for the Zionist Sate of Israel are going to be shrieking anti-Semitism & invoking the horrors of the Holocaust. Understandably so.World wide, vigorous criticism of Israel’s BEHAVIOUR over its latest Christmas slaughter is running hot.
We accept that the “American War” - as the Vietnamese call it -was lost due to the power of TV images turning people’s stomachs & eventually their minds. My hunch is that IF the Israelis are ever thwarted in the clearly articulated ambitions of their Zionist project it will be because of the informative & unifying power of the internet.
TV back then saved the Vietnamese from total destruction:the WWW today may save the Palestinians from their very own Holocaust. I’m not saying Israel WILL ever return enough of the stolen lands of Palestine-now brutally OCCUPIED for decades- to allow a VIABLE state. But there IS a chance. President Obama is a chance: for justice & consequently peace in the middle east. He presents as an intelligent & compassionate human being. Go B. Hussein Obama.You have my vote so far.
Good on you Mr.Backman too! You have said no more than the LONELY PLANET guide to the Middle East:most Israelis BEHAVE in a particular way. We, all of us BEHAVE in our own uniquely special ways. We, all of us, reap the consequences of our BEHAVIOUR. We sow lettuce seeds, we harvest lettuce. If our nations sow greed & hatred for decades,we,the unhappy Israelis in this instance,will receive what we deserve. What goes ‘round comes round. Anyone disagree?
Let us talk about the BEHAVIOURS of this Pariah State.Our cowardly politicians & our craven press have bowed to Israel for much too long. Shame,shame,CRIKEY: I expected better from you. WHAT causes you to demonstrate such craven obesiance,we can only speculate.The Israeli BEHAVIOUR is two hundred OCCUPIED eyes for one OCCUPIERS eye. Let us name it thus with courage & clarity. Justice now for Palestine. Peace for Israel & us all
on our sad, fragile Planet Earth.
It is the responsibility of newspapers to check their articles - to be sure that it does not incite hatred towards any minority community. Especially a community that historically have received bile and hatred towards them, whether they be Jewish, Muslim or otherwise.
Of course the Gaza war was and is a tragedy, as tragic as the civil war in Congo, or the recent war between Russia and Georgia, and those are the wars or acts of genocide that have been reported. How many Sudanese men and women have been murdered and displaced in the recent past and why wasn’t there the immediate heated outrage towards the perpetrators such as there was during the Gaza war.
Where were the crack-pot conspiracy theorists then?
Isn’t it time to look within ourselves and see why the state of Israel induces the most vitriol, conveniently then bringing out the age old fanatical conspiracies and prejudices about the Jewish people.
Australia has the good fortune to be a civilised and educated country, we have the liberty to deconstruct our selective subjective responses to world events without fear. It is timely to re-examin our prejudices with intelligence, sifting out thought constructs that are Medieval in origin.
S.I.
Surry Hills
Kim Serca: ah just what we need…undergraduate humour to complement the genocide of civilians.
Anyhow, your suggestion is way to late, as I reamed LittleJimmyCoward for good some time ago…but as with all of LittleJimmy’s judgements, he hasn’t yet realised it…and I doubt he ever will.
I should report that I discovered some strange objects in his intellectual back passage…….a photo of Heinrich Heiden, head of the Nazi SS…and Henshaw’s “A guide to logical argument” …now we know why he’s talking disjointed, bigoted, Zionist crap…oh yeah….there was also autographed photos from Janet Albrechtsen & Greg Sheridan. I can report that both these Oz dimwits are well suited to a brownish, sepia tone.
But you’re right…..I should let him hang himself further on his own…his support HAMAS to date has been first class…why interupt it?
James K and Kevin Charles Herbert - get a room for godssake. I’ve never seen two people more desperate to fuck each other outside a blue light disco
i strikes me as strange the number of people who agreed with the backman article i wonder how they would feel if there own population was attacked by a group whos main charter calls for the destruction of israel[rockets over cairns] i wonder how they would feel upon reading an article that claimed that australians were paedophiles based on the rather large amounts of australians arrested in thailand for under age sex offences or a nation of drug runners everytime young australians are arrested in asia as drug mules.how do they feel when arab minority in israel are better educated then our aboriganel population that where ”occupied].i guess 400000 people dying in a muslim sudan or the total dictatorships of most arab regimes are also a zionist conspiracy or some kind of jewish lobby propaganda
wake up to your own prejudice
Margaret
I have read your piece on crikey and on your blog. It’s a confused and confusing piece sadly.Which meansd I am not at all sure exactly what it is you are saying. Publishing racist garbage is not a `jewish’ issue, nor is it a `Muslim’ issue when people like Alan Jones spout the sort crap he has spouted in the past. This is not about that great bogey, `The Jewish Lobby’ either. And nor is it about whether or not Paul Ramadge and I like each other. I don’t dislike him at all — I assume he must have told you he has no love for me for you state it as some sort fact that ought to be taken into consideration when looking at the argument I put about The Age and the publication of the Backman article. And by the way, the publication and broadcast of racist stuff that does not concern the Jews in no way mitiogates the publication of racist rubbish that is about the Jews. Does it?
Well said Michael Reich.
However to make a difference honesty, open mindedness and willingness to allow even for the possibility that one’s own perception might ‘not be completely helpful’ would be required.
This board demonstrates that on the other side of the planet and remote from real personal pain that this is apparently ‘an unrealistic aspiration’.
Morever any ‘justifiable’ stoush attracts people who are quite sick in themselves and who unknowingly displace their own angst. And prejudice ‘justifies’ all.
For the actual participants in real pain, psychological, lifestyle and physical it will only probably end when they have had enough.
Spurred by accusations of `anti-semitism` in an article in The Age by Michael Backman, I took trouble to fead it on the latter`s blog, since the piece itself has been pulled by the paper`s editors. And what do I find: a well-written, rather mild criticism of the actions of the State of Israel regarding it`t treatment of Palestinians, somewhat losing it`s way by diverting to Kathmandu and Malasia. This is part of the course for the Zionist lobby and it`s adherents, to tease out even the most mild criticism of the Israeli State, call it anti-semitic and with self-righteous rage attack the messenger. This serves in a dual purpose: of firstly morally self-justifying the attack, secondly, to teach others a lesson, “do not criticisa Israel again!”. One of the aims of this `war` on Gaza, was to prove to IDF it`s `deterrence`, in other words to attack largely defenceless populations with impumity. Certainly, it displayed firepower many times big enough to massacre large-scale populations, but the popular backlash by millions against this genocide and Governments supporting it has laid uncertainty into the self-righteous and self-justyfiing ruling classes. So that aim, alomg with the others, have failed, as it failed in Lebanon, now Abbas is exposed as an Israeli collaborator, and Hamas, as a voice and hope of Palestinians.
It is Margaret Simmons and the Age editors that have to explanb themselves, Word games and smearing othebe just won`t do!
Eli Ajzenman: thanks for your support for HAMAS.
The dilatory propoganda you spout as facts is:
a) the exact reason why this conflcit will not be resolved by Israel.
b) why people of conscience in Oz & globally have turned Israel into a pariah state.
I say boycott Israeli manufactured goods & services. For the record, Bernard Keane’s suggestion this week that I should extend this boycott to Australian Jews who support the Zionist Israeli NAZIS, is a decision I believe best left to individual Australians.
You’ re a racist bigot….if I had my way I’d deport you to Israel.
But at least you’re prepared to identify yourself, which is more than we can say for your sorry little mate LittleJimmyCoward.
This is an extract of the piece that ran in the London Telegraph and Sydney Morning Herald TODAY 21 Jan 2009 regarding a slaughter in Gaza of some 48 civilians:
“”We were terrified as shells hit the roof in other parts of the house but we thought we were lucky because they did not hit our room.
“Eventually we heard soldiers banging on the door at around 6.30am. Atiyeh went to the door with his hands raised holding his ID but they shot him in the doorway and he fell forward.”
Faraj Samouni, 22, Zahwe’s son, said the children started to scream as Israeli soldiers entered.
“I shouted ‘children, children’ in Hebrew but they started shooting,” he said. “Ahmed was hit two times. His sister Amal was hit in the head and is still in hospital.”…………….
“Atiyeh’s body lay where he had been shot for almost two weeks while Israeli soldiers occupied a four-storey house next door, leaving a collection of racist graffiti. Most was written in Hebrew but Israeli soldiers had also marked the walls in English, with messages such as “ARabs need 2 die”, “Arabs are pieces of shit” and “1 is DOWN 999,999 TO GO”.
In http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/israel-may-face-warcrimes-case-for-alleged-atrocities/2009/01/20/1232213646924.html
I’m so sick of all the back-and-forth propaganda about which side is right. The leaders of both Hamas and Israel continue to inflict death and suffering on civilians, and have repeatedly shown they are incapable and unwilling to create a peace.
What Gaza needs is a NATO intervention followed up by long-term occupation of UN peacekeepers. We’re talking about an area 16 times smaller than metropolitan Brisbane. Put it on your todo list, Obama!
I found Backman’s article on the question of the Palestinians and Israel not only full of age old anti Semitic diatribe, but full of gross generalizations and over simplifications, and without any reference to the actual historical context of the conflict. To intimate that the tragedies of 9/11 ,Bali and London can be squarely placed in the lap of Israel, only reinforced the incredible naivety and bias of his article.
What I find puzzling reading reading some of the previous comments here that support his view, is the total lack of historical context of the conflict. As if in ‘67 Israel just decided to go and gain some real estate for itself.
Gavin Gatenby who writes that “setting up a “Jewish state” on somebody else’s land ” forgets that this land belonged to nobody in particular since the Romans left. In fact most of the mideast simply was controlled by various empires and was carved up, sliced and diced by the victors of WW2. There existed no single national entity since the Israel of the Roman Empire. The craving now for a 2 State solution already existed in 1948. Only problem was only one side excepted it . 60 years later the losers of countless battles are crying foul.
The world has has had countless conflicts since WW2,many with countless atrocities that defy logic even given the horror of the Nazi’s is still fresh history. Why is it then that Israel is judged so much more harshly than any other nation? Why are there always two standards of criticism?
That the Jews and Israel of today refuse to allow the world to ever again place them in a position of total annihilation, either by flexing political muscle or by protecting their citizens from terror by those who publicly call for their total destruction is no less acceptable than Australian soldiers fighting in Afghanistan.
I am yet to see any peace lobby in Arab states, as there are in Israel , criticizing their government and demanding a peaceful solution. Only the ones who want Jews dead.
Michael Reich:
You practised sophistry leads me to think that you are indeed the Fourth Reich.
Gawenda is right. This is not a Jewish or Muslim or Athiest or indeed Callithumpian issue. This is an issue about stereotyping and bigotry. And when it comes to bigotry, no one does it as well as the opinion page of The Oz.
Speaking of stereotypes, I might go to my old uni library and dig out some olf olf copies of the Aistralia-Israel Review that stereotype Palestinians. While I’m at it, I’ll look for some old Muslim student publications that stereotype other groups.
We all are demeaned when our popular media engage in group-defamation. But often those who selectively scream “racism” the loudest are the ones most guilty.
Oh don’t thank me Kevboy Loon. You know who to thank:
Kevin Charles Herbert
Monday, 19 January 2009 7:08:20 PM
Bernard Keane: so you’re supporting Israel’s genocide against the Palestinians, are you? What a dilatory interpretation of my rationale.
I’d suggest that you have a glass of water & then let me have the benefit of your your wisdom on this matter…….or maybe your confused analysis of my position, is exactly why Crikey aren’t letting you near this issue.
Kevin Charles Herber#4
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 1:00:48 PM
Bernard Keane:
Well Bern……lost for words?…….or did you sober up…or were you directed by Crikey management not to further embarass yourself.? I’m tipping both of those……
That’s right!………. Jonathan Green who also believes Australia is tied to the “lowest common denominator” because of compulsory voting.
I know what Crikey is tied to and why.
So the Israel lobby is up to its old tricks in trying to muzzle any alternative views by calling them anti-semitic. And no doubt he Age and the rest of our spineless media will go along with it. But I would have expected more from Crikey than to report these views uncritically as fact. Good on you Michael Backman. The truth needs to be told however unpalatable.
“You’ re a racist bigot….if I had my way I’d deport you to Israel” says Kevin Charles aka the loon.
Presumably he would deport Eli Ajzenman to Tel Aviv so Kevboy’s “brothers” (Kevboy’s word not mine) in Hamas could complete his work.
I’ve now read Backman’s piece (thanks for the tip, Simons) and I can’t see how it remotely qualifies as anti-semitism. I’m with the previous commenter on this: any criticism of Israel just gets labelled “anti-semitism” by Zionists like Gawenda and the MSM is generally so gutless it folds immediately. The curious thing now, tho, is that there’s “anti-semitic” stuff like this coming out of the Jewish community all the time. Take a look at the recent petitions and statements against the Gaza action initiated by prominent Jews and you’ll see what I mean. Face it, Margaret, setting up a “Jewish state” on somebody else’s land was always going to lead to tears and the Zionist founding fathers knew it.
Kevin Charles Herbert,
I read your comments above. I think you are a psychopath and should urgently seek professional help before it gets too late…
Backman’s assertion is that that the underlying causes of Islamic hostility to Israel and the West is due to the treatment of Palestinians. This is difficult to prove without the creation of a ‘control parallel universe’ where the Palestinians are treated well by the Israelis, so the next best thing to such a controlled experiment is a “Gedanken” (thought) experiment.
This experiment could be easily extended in scope, beyond the abolition of the mistreatment of Palestinians, to a Middle East where Israel does not continue to exist (many attempts have been made to turn this into reality and it seems, if successful, would provide much comfort to a significant number of your correspondents).
In this scenario, upon Israel’s demise, the logical extension of Backman’s assertions would predict that the conflict between Pakistan and India would be resolved amicably and Kashmir would no longer be a point of contention between the parties. The Kosovo issue would simply go away, The Taliban in Afghanistan would lay down their arms and embrace woman’s rights and the Sunnis and Shias, Alawites etc. would make up and forgive each others trespasses. The Islamic northern Sudanese would restrain their genocidal tendencies towards the inhabitants of Darfur. The various Islamic factions would make peace with the Christian factions in Lebanon , Aceh etc. ( and the lion shall lie down with the lamb).
A more plausible explanation for the primal anger directed towards Israel (compounded by the horrific images coming from Gaza) is very much like that of other conflicts over the years. This explanation involves bigotry against other religions and ethnicities ( displayed, alas, by all sides in the conflict) which have been compounded by the usual factors such as leaders who encourage the displacement of the anger of their population, away from their own corruption and misrule, towards an external enemy.
In my judgement the column was a gift to the Friends of Israel at a time when overall Israel has a great deal to be ashamed of in Gaza. When I trawled my beady eye over the assertions made some of it was quite arguable, some of it was stupid suggestive of bigotry.
But overall context applies here too. $billions in damage in Gaza. 5000 plus injured and killed mostly civilians. The Herald has twice in 3 days reported clear facts of alleged war crimes. 1 being deliberate frustration of the food supplies and other supplies to 1.5 million people for 4 months, the other being today regarding Vietnam style murders of civilians.
As Vic Alhadeff of the Jewish Board of Deputies has implied, but not said directly, it doesn’t take anti semitism to make criticism of Israel. Notice too Bob Ellis opinion piece re war crimes 15/1/09 in the Canberra Times. Not just Julia Irwin MP another ALP identity. One indeed only needs to quote Haaretz to get sufficient dirt on Israel re Yigal Amir, 500K sinister squatter movement.
As I said above it was a free kick to the blindly loyal F.O. I. as pretext for avoidance of accountability after 3 weeks of censorship contrary to order of their own supreme court. 2 weekends ago a similar platform was rolled out namely the tried and true reminders of the tragedy of the Holocaust as guilt trip on the West, free pass in Gaza. At least the Big Media in Sydney. It fizzled as the body parts of children piled higher.
And may God bless the web and Al Jazeera and The Guardian for some truth in all this. Shalom to the decent Israelis and may God strike down the murderers.
“Published in error” is the most bizarre excuse I have heard.
Since when is the decision to publish this sort of article made on a “collegiate” basis?
Will tomorrow’s edition come out, or is the Supreme Soviet yet to vote on the front-page headline?
No wonder the “scapegoat” is under extreme strain. We all feel that way when we’ve made a boneheaded decision that endangers a large and venerable brand.
As for Gawenda, suspicions engendered during his editorship and later by his unremittingly dull dispatches from America are confirmed by his comments here. The bloke is barely literate — how did he ever get those jobs?
I’m amazed and saddened that so many contributors to the blog do not understand (hopefully) the difference between anti-semitism and anti-Israelism. Anti-Israelism is about the actions of the state, but anti-semitism is about massaging and perpetuating prejudice. Backman’s commentary would be acceptable (yet still misguided) if he was talking about Israel only. Why did he talk about Israeli (read “jewish”) cheapskates in Nepal? What did it have to do with the rest of his epistola? Nothing. But it questioned his impartiality towards the Jews. The bitterness and excitement of many authors above about Backman’s garbage also questions their real feelings with respect to the Jewsih state and the Jews in general.
Margret Simons
Having read the other respondent’s replies to your article, there seems little to add.
The Michael Backman article was spot on. As usual, the Zionist lobby sprang to a heated illogical attack.
The real story is, how do our Friends of Israel manage to twist the news of their outrages so smoothly in the supposedly impartial Australian media?
That demonstrates immense spin skill, abundant money, obsessiveness and a worrying influence with key people. Most of our politicians are similarly leashed.
Please read an excellent piece by Noam Chomsky at Outlook India on 22 January 2009 on the war in Gaza at http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20090122&fname=chomsky&sid=1. This was published without any fuss or fanfare. Of interest is that Jews have lived in India for over 400 years without any problems - longer than in Israel. But they are Indian Jews and that might provide some insight into the reasons for Israel - predominantly European Jews - being unable and unwilling to integrate with its neighbours. Just a thought.
What is the big deal about Backman’s comments in his column?
He expressed his points of view. Fair enough. Why is everyone so precious when it comes to criticism of Israel?
Its quite possible that Israel will be charged with crimes against humanity. The fact that it is a Jewish state
does not mean that criticism of that state’s Government’s actions is being anti Semitic.
I agree with Michael Gawenda’s central point. “Publishing racist garbage is not a `jewish’ issue, nor is it a `Muslim’ issue”
Blackman’s vile drivel is mild compared to some of the comments posted to a series of extraordinarily partisan pieces here.
Gavin Gatenby’s comment below is typical if mild of the ilk that questions Israel’s right to exist so frequently left unchallenged on these pages.
Kevin Charles Herbert (a clearly truly extraordinarily vile individual) almost daily implores the West to bomb Tel Aviv to smithereens again unrestrained on these pages.
All without apparently editorial or moderator oversight.
Jonathan Green and Crikey makes Paul Ramadge and The Age look paragons of virtue.
At least The Age attempted, however inadequately and disingenuosly, to right the wrong
Thanks Margaret for your blog which I discovered before reading this Crikey piece…..it’s most informative.
Michael Gawenda’s sophistry on racism illustrates yet another example of armchair sociology while innocent civilians & their legitimate government are bombed by a fascist Nazi Israeli state…if the Israelis want to make it ‘anything goes’, then it’s on their head…just like Hitler’s Nazis. Like the majority of news journalists & commentators, Michael lives in a theoretical world based on an outsiders disposition
I say the Gaza genocide & ethnic cleansing is worse than the 11/9 tragedy, which was carried out by a relatively few zealots, whereas Haaretz & Little JimmyKoward boast of 82% Israeli support for the Gaza bombing.
LittleJimmyK: again I thank you for your support of HAMAS. Any person of conscience reading your racist Zionist tosh would be turned towards supporting HAMAS: the democratically elected government of GAZA.
Decent Jews in Oz are ashamed of bigots such as you……keep up the good work.
Finally, the disinformation by the Israeli / US alliance, that needs dismantling ASAP, is that hysterical beat-up that Iran really plans to eliminate Israel by force. What tosh !!!!!!!!!!!
Marvellous-Eli Ajzenman uses gross generalisations to propagate more Israeli propaganda. Daily we hear how the democratically Hamas “hides” amongst civillians unlike the members of the IDF who ..errr …live amongst civilians . But call someone a “terrorist” of course and you can take out a leader and 9 of their family, no problems
And Tom is that the same South African born Vic Aldeheff who late in life recently discovered the horrors of Apartheid where black South Africans are forced to live in seperated areas unlike the Palestinians who are….ummm…..forced to live in seperated areas surrounded by a fence ?
But God-forbid we compare situations lest Bernard Keane is offended by the ‘nazi ‘comparison although respected and lifetime Zionist and British MP Sir Gerald Kaufman whose family (some of them-the others died in the Hollocaust) fled Poland, who gave a speech in Parliament last week and stated “:”Israel is giving Gaza “the reply of the Nazis” And Hamas is “dealing with Palestinians translucently and with uprightness”.
Kaufmann has been going to Israel since 1961 and more times than you (and Vic Alderheff) have had hot dinners and was a great friend of David Ben-Gurion & Golda Meir and has family in the IDF and Israel, was an active Zionist although is now an anti-Zionist and is appaled by Israel’s fascist behaviour. (probably written off as a “self hating Jew” !)
Disclosure : The Colonel is Jewish.
“Kevin Charles Herbert
Monday, 19 January 2009 6:26:45 PM
I say…BOMB Tel Aviv……as I would have said ’ bomb Berlin ’ when the Nazis were bombing the Jewish ghetto in Warsaw.
These evil fascists deserve nothing better…the time for talk with the Israelis is over…the free world must boycott Israel NOW. “
Kevin Charles Herbert
Monday, 19 January 2009 6:21:17 PMOut they come…the ill informed Zionist bigots Jenny, Daniel Little JamesKoward…. in support of their IDF NAZI Blackshirt cowards……using their first world armaments against a peasant army.
My response to this manifestation of evil is to support the bombing of Tel Aviv…sooner rather than later…to rid the world of this evil Israeli Government……..& to restore every square centimetre of the West Bank & Gaza to their rigthful owners.
People of conscience will NEVER FORGET this latest genocide against unarmed civilians…
Kevin Charles Herbert
Monday, 19 January 2009 6:30:53 PM
I say…BOMB Tel Aviv……as I would have said ’ bomb Berlin ’ when the Nazis were bombing the Jewish ghetto in Warsaw.
These evil fascists deserve nothing better…the time for talk with the Israelis is over…the free world must boycott Israel NOW.
Even that pathetic Zionist Issy Liebler believes that Israeli society is rotten at the core..i.e. morally & intellectually corrupt…it’s the first time I’ve agrees with Dizzy Issy on anything.
Kevin Charles Herbert#3
Thursday, 15 January 2009 7:31:46 PM
Brian Haill: you’re right about killing from helicopter gunships & F16 jets…the Israelis are just like the NAZIS…..bigoted cowards…….and they’ll end up like the NAZIS…routed…..
Also, Brenny & co…what is this?….an ex Moriah College convention…give us break you bigoted
mummy’s boys & girls…. did that dill at AIJAC put you up to this?