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	<title>Comments on: Why is AirServices censoring its flight tracking service?</title>
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		<title>By: fred s</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/12/19/why-is-airservices-censoring-its-flight-tracking-service/#comment-6311</link>
		<dc:creator>fred s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ASA has a very adversarial attitude, us against them, in every sense. They seem especially sensitive about complaints from residents that suffer the trauma caused by their routing of air traffic over residential areas. Adelaide residents are unhappy with them routing jet traffic over areas formally quiet. In Queensland a very controversial Chinese owned flight training school, just like the ones involved in the latest accident, has been knocked back in Hervey Bay and the very well organised aviation community has been after blood as a result. I believe the ASA is funded by the aircraft industry. It certainly acts like it. When it hits the fan they will close ranks against &quot;us&quot;. A local web site covers this... www.stop-noise.org&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After years of CASA and ASA rubbing up to the airline industry and GA, they no longer act as a regulatory body but more like a private club with lawyers guarding the door. No other developed country allows air craft to do what we allow here. There is a reason so many of the &#039;students&#039; are foreign </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ASA has a very adversarial attitude, us against them, in every sense. They seem especially sensitive about complaints from residents that suffer the trauma caused by their routing of air traffic over residential areas. Adelaide residents are unhappy with them routing jet traffic over areas formally quiet. In Queensland a very controversial Chinese owned flight training school, just like the ones involved in the latest accident, has been knocked back in Hervey Bay and the very well organised aviation community has been after blood as a result. I believe the ASA is funded by the aircraft industry. It certainly acts like it. When it hits the fan they will close ranks against &#8220;us&#8221;. A local web site covers this&#8230; <a href="http://www.stop-noise.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.stop-noise.org</a></p>
<p>After years of CASA and ASA rubbing up to the airline industry and GA, they no longer act as a regulatory body but more like a private club with lawyers guarding the door. No other developed country allows air craft to do what we allow here. There is a reason so many of the &#8216;students&#8217; are foreign</p>
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		<title>By: James Polley</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/12/19/why-is-airservices-censoring-its-flight-tracking-service/#comment-6312</link>
		<dc:creator>James Polley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link to my blog, but it&#039;s broken. You&#039;re missing a &quot;http://&quot; from the start of the URL, so the browser prepends http://crikey.com.au/Politics/, leading to completely the wrong place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Incidentally, I come from Marybourough (~30 minutes drive from H. Bay, and now all part of the Fraser Coast under the latest round of council amalgamations up there). I was up there at the end of November for a few days and heard a lot about the flight school. At least according to local scuttlebutt, the chief reason for canning it was the feeling that it would be &quot;unsafe&quot; to have it at HB airport, which receives about 12 commercial flights a day. The almost entirely unused Maryborough airport was (again, according to local scuttlebutt) not even considered - even though it&#039;s just had a big ASA &quot;Don&#039;t come near this fence or we&#039;ll shoot you&quot; fence and signage installed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link to my blog, but it&#8217;s broken. You&#8217;re missing a &#8220;http://&#8221; from the start of the URL, so the browser prepends <a href="http://crikey.com.au/Politics/" rel="nofollow">http://crikey.com.au/Politics/</a>, leading to completely the wrong place.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I come from Marybourough (~30 minutes drive from H. Bay, and now all part of the Fraser Coast under the latest round of council amalgamations up there). I was up there at the end of November for a few days and heard a lot about the flight school. At least according to local scuttlebutt, the chief reason for canning it was the feeling that it would be &#8220;unsafe&#8221; to have it at HB airport, which receives about 12 commercial flights a day. The almost entirely unused Maryborough airport was (again, according to local scuttlebutt) not even considered - even though it&#8217;s just had a big ASA &#8220;Don&#8217;t come near this fence or we&#8217;ll shoot you&#8221; fence and signage installed.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/12/19/why-is-airservices-censoring-its-flight-tracking-service/#comment-6313</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And they also removed all the air traffic audio from the internet of the crash in Melbourne near Moorabbin earlier this year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And they also removed all the air traffic audio from the internet of the crash in Melbourne near Moorabbin earlier this year!</p>
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