Comments on: Was the police commissioner the key to editor Guthrie’s removal? http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/12/09/was-the-police-commissioner-the-key-to-editor-guthries-removal/ now with extra source Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:11:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Dr Harvey M Tarvydas http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/12/09/was-the-police-commissioner-the-key-to-editor-guthries-removal/#comment-21809 Dr Harvey M Tarvydas Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-21809 It’s somewhere between 1000 to 100,000 times more difficult to be a police commissioner of Nixon’s ilk than a police constable. I have treated both.<br />A news paper has responsibility to the community if it expects the status of influence in its own right in the community it serves.<br />It should not even imagine it can get away with damaging somebody of interest just because it can without obvious assessment of fairness and correctness.<br />I have been the victim of a massive murderous stabbing of my integrity to serve a ratings urge.<br />You need more than a fact about a trip unless you just want to write about the trip.<br />Fairness may be the name of the duck that decided too land on Guthrie’s head. <br /> It’s somewhere between 1000 to 100,000 times more difficult to be a police commissioner of Nixon’s ilk than a police constable. I have treated both.
A news paper has responsibility to the community if it expects the status of influence in its own right in the community it serves.
It should not even imagine it can get away with damaging somebody of interest just because it can without obvious assessment of fairness and correctness.
I have been the victim of a massive murderous stabbing of my integrity to serve a ratings urge.
You need more than a fact about a trip unless you just want to write about the trip.
Fairness may be the name of the duck that decided too land on Guthrie’s head.

]]> By: Julius http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/12/09/was-the-police-commissioner-the-key-to-editor-guthries-removal/#comment-21810 Julius Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-21810 If Guthrie's problem was going for the A-B readership for the Herald-Sun (which wouldn't sit easily with having a go at Christine Nixon) then he ought to be forgiven for having at least half a brain. As almost everyone has access to easily legible broadband delivery of online news, including the actual newspaper or the day, it will be people with more money to spare who actually buy newspapers, so it is really a no-brainer to go for the A-Bs, especially when there are now fewer than half a dozen people writing regularly for the Age who have any standing or credit and its Letter page is usually a pack of drivel designed only to make The Age's residue of readers happy that they occasionally get their names in print. I've given up The Age and count on others to tell me what's in the Deaths column. Missing a few funerals is tolerable. If Guthrie’s problem was going for the A-B readership for the Herald-Sun (which wouldn’t sit easily with having a go at Christine Nixon) then he ought to be forgiven for having at least half a brain. As almost everyone has access to easily legible broadband delivery of online news, including the actual newspaper or the day, it will be people with more money to spare who actually buy newspapers, so it is really a no-brainer to go for the A-Bs, especially when there are now fewer than half a dozen people writing regularly for the Age who have any standing or credit and its Letter page is usually a pack of drivel designed only to make The Age’s residue of readers happy that they occasionally get their names in print. I’ve given up The Age and count on others to tell me what’s in the Deaths column. Missing a few funerals is tolerable.

]]> By: Peter Scruby http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/12/09/was-the-police-commissioner-the-key-to-editor-guthries-removal/#comment-21811 Peter Scruby Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-21811 Maybe I don't read enough but I've never understood what Christine Nixon did wrong or why she repaid her airfare and expenses. My understanding is that her husband is a retired senior Qantas exec and he was offered a trip for 2 on the inaugural A380 flight...she had holidays due and went with him as his wife,and essentially as a private citizen...I think she had every right to be p.ssed off with the story,but I also don't reckon it was a hanging offence for Guthrie.<br />Can't believe the accuracy of the conversations between Hartigan et al...did someone have a recorder?? Maybe I don’t read enough but I’ve never understood what Christine Nixon did wrong or why she repaid her airfare and expenses. My understanding is that her husband is a retired senior Qantas exec and he was offered a trip for 2 on the inaugural A380 flight…she had holidays due and went with him as his wife,and essentially as a private citizen…I think she had every right to be p.ssed off with the story,but I also don’t reckon it was a hanging offence for Guthrie.
Can’t believe the accuracy of the conversations between Hartigan et al…did someone have a recorder??

]]> By: Tom McLoughlin http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/12/09/was-the-police-commissioner-the-key-to-editor-guthries-removal/#comment-21812 Tom McLoughlin Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-21812 Interesting that you can't google the story of 23rd October 2008 under that headline "Beverly Hills Cop". <br /><br />Personally I think she did compromise herself. You shouldn't accept free gifts while holding public positions of influence and power. You never know when it can be used as leverage in the future. The punishment is the thing. A severe diet would probably be a good penance for her. 100 laps of the football oval. 400 metre sprints. 'Rotten' Ron running the prisons in NSW should be made to join her. <br /><br />It suggests to me people in power lose perspective, or she's been under so much pressure for so long her judgment lapsed. More's the pity that so many politicians have compromised their independence so often and much worse. From friendly house renovations to little side trips in China to freebie tickets to rugby games from people with a demonstrated interest in the exercise of policy. <br /><br />It's all "special people" stuff cutting you off from the People who are the real employers. I wouldn' t discount the federal ALP Govt influence on the Murdoch regime via Brumby ALP either. Dealmaking behind closed doors etc, mutual back scratching. Just like they do with other Big Media. The ALP are notorious for trading in promises and favours past and future to manage the Tribe and their wage slaves. Interesting that you can’t google the story of 23rd October 2008 under that headline “Beverly Hills Cop”.

Personally I think she did compromise herself. You shouldn’t accept free gifts while holding public positions of influence and power. You never know when it can be used as leverage in the future. The punishment is the thing. A severe diet would probably be a good penance for her. 100 laps of the football oval. 400 metre sprints. ‘Rotten’ Ron running the prisons in NSW should be made to join her.

It suggests to me people in power lose perspective, or she’s been under so much pressure for so long her judgment lapsed. More’s the pity that so many politicians have compromised their independence so often and much worse. From friendly house renovations to little side trips in China to freebie tickets to rugby games from people with a demonstrated interest in the exercise of policy.

It’s all “special people” stuff cutting you off from the People who are the real employers. I wouldn’ t discount the federal ALP Govt influence on the Murdoch regime via Brumby ALP either. Dealmaking behind closed doors etc, mutual back scratching. Just like they do with other Big Media. The ALP are notorious for trading in promises and favours past and future to manage the Tribe and their wage slaves.

]]> By: pamela http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/12/09/was-the-police-commissioner-the-key-to-editor-guthries-removal/#comment-21813 pamela Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-21813 I was feeling sorry for Guthrie however if he was behind the beatup on Christine Nixon, he has lost my support. IF he was behind it that is.<br />Nixon took a freebie flight on the airline on which her husband is an executive- hardly a hanging office unlike the murders, breakins, drugs and corruption which the BOYOS at Vic police are surrounded with. The Herald Sun did Victorians a grave disservice in attacking a woman with Nixons credentials and leaving us in the hands of the BOYOS. I was feeling sorry for Guthrie however if he was behind the beatup on Christine Nixon, he has lost my support. IF he was behind it that is.
Nixon took a freebie flight on the airline on which her husband is an executive- hardly a hanging office unlike the murders, breakins, drugs and corruption which the BOYOS at Vic police are surrounded with. The Herald Sun did Victorians a grave disservice in attacking a woman with Nixons credentials and leaving us in the hands of the BOYOS.

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