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	<title>Comments on: Stop blaming doctors for the health system</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Sedwell</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/12/04/stop-blaming-doctors-for-the-health-system/#comment-14304</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Sedwell</dc:creator>
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		<description>Regarding the article &quot;Stop blaming doctors for the health system&quot; - can &quot;Dr Graham&quot; provide some actual examples of the income levels of our &quot;relatively poorly paid&quot; rural doctors?  I&#039;m sure this will be a tale of terrible suffering and woe. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the article &#8220;Stop blaming doctors for the health system&#8221; - can &#8220;Dr Graham&#8221; provide some actual examples of the income levels of our &#8220;relatively poorly paid&#8221; rural doctors?  I&#8217;m sure this will be a tale of terrible suffering and woe.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/12/04/stop-blaming-doctors-for-the-health-system/#comment-14305</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
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		<description>Hear hear Dr Graham!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Michael, rural doctors are universally less well paid than their urban colleagues, generally are on call more frequently.  There is a mass of evidence out there and you can find plenty of examples quickly through google, through the online Medical Journal of Australia, the AMWAC reports into the medical workforce, the Federal Department of Health or various other reputable and trustworthy sources.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also importantly, given that you seem to be obliquely criticising how much doctors earn you should consider what sacrifices are made to get there and what responsibilities they take on.  I have done 6 years of medical school and 5 years of postgraduate training.  I won&#039;t be fully qualified for at least another 2 years.  When I started my hourly rate was actually slightly less than the hourly rate I had earned stacking shelves at Woolworths.  Even 5 years out I earn less as a doctor than some of my friends do working as accountants, nutritionists, physiotherapists, electricians or even (shock horror) nurses!  Is the effort worth it?  A number of my colleagues think not - they&#039;ve already quit medicine for easier or more financially rewarding career pathways.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is easy to blame doctors, just as it is easy to blame politicians and policy makers for the problems in the health system.  It&#039;s easy to be as simplistic and sweeping as Menadue was.  However the reality is somewhat different.  Yes, some doctors are overpaid.   Some doctors are not good at what they do.  Most however earn a comfortable living by working their butts off providing an essential service which is expensive to provide, takes years of training and despite claims to the contrary cannot easily be replaced by less trained individuals.  Graham identifies himself as an ICU specialist.  If you were sick enough to need his care, ask yourself who you would choose - Graham, a nurse practitioner, or John Menadue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear hear Dr Graham!</p>
<p>Michael, rural doctors are universally less well paid than their urban colleagues, generally are on call more frequently.  There is a mass of evidence out there and you can find plenty of examples quickly through google, through the online Medical Journal of Australia, the AMWAC reports into the medical workforce, the Federal Department of Health or various other reputable and trustworthy sources.  </p>
<p>Also importantly, given that you seem to be obliquely criticising how much doctors earn you should consider what sacrifices are made to get there and what responsibilities they take on.  I have done 6 years of medical school and 5 years of postgraduate training.  I won&#8217;t be fully qualified for at least another 2 years.  When I started my hourly rate was actually slightly less than the hourly rate I had earned stacking shelves at Woolworths.  Even 5 years out I earn less as a doctor than some of my friends do working as accountants, nutritionists, physiotherapists, electricians or even (shock horror) nurses!  Is the effort worth it?  A number of my colleagues think not - they&#8217;ve already quit medicine for easier or more financially rewarding career pathways.  </p>
<p>It is easy to blame doctors, just as it is easy to blame politicians and policy makers for the problems in the health system.  It&#8217;s easy to be as simplistic and sweeping as Menadue was.  However the reality is somewhat different.  Yes, some doctors are overpaid.   Some doctors are not good at what they do.  Most however earn a comfortable living by working their butts off providing an essential service which is expensive to provide, takes years of training and despite claims to the contrary cannot easily be replaced by less trained individuals.  Graham identifies himself as an ICU specialist.  If you were sick enough to need his care, ask yourself who you would choose - Graham, a nurse practitioner, or John Menadue?</p>
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