Comments on: Turnbull: “no welcome mat for people smugglers” http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/12/02/turnbull-no-welcome-mat-for-people-smugglers/ now with extra source Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:25:52 +1100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Marilyn http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/12/02/turnbull-no-welcome-mat-for-people-smugglers/#comment-1913 Marilyn Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-1913 What a bunch of pathetic halfwits. When Afghans escape from persecution in Afghanistan the only way they can do it is via a "smuggler" who then gets them to the first refugee signatory country.<br /><br />Which part of that information from the fucking UNHCR don't these morons get? There are no fucking people smuggled into Australia and locking up the supposed victims is pretty useless.<br /><br />Unless that moron Turnbull believes those thugs on the Howard years last night were right or that Ruddock's belief that German Jews should have been similarly abused is correct. What a bunch of pathetic halfwits. When Afghans escape from persecution in Afghanistan the only way they can do it is via a “smuggler” who then gets them to the first refugee signatory country.

Which part of that information from the fucking UNHCR don’t these morons get? There are no fucking people smuggled into Australia and locking up the supposed victims is pretty useless.

Unless that moron Turnbull believes those thugs on the Howard years last night were right or that Ruddock’s belief that German Jews should have been similarly abused is correct.

]]> By: Pamela http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/12/02/turnbull-no-welcome-mat-for-people-smugglers/#comment-1914 Pamela Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-1914 Was this the same Sharman Stone who signed off on the only decent recommendation to come out of the Joint Committee Inquiry into Detention (released last night) with Recommendation 18 calling for the repeal of the legislation which imposes debts on asylum seekers for their stay in Australia's hellholes.<br />At $125.40 per night or $225000 for 5 years- the tariff is stiff for a less than enjoyable stay.<br />Never thought that I would thank Sharman Stone for anything but there you are- seems that she is not quite hard as stone. Was this the same Sharman Stone who signed off on the only decent recommendation to come out of the Joint Committee Inquiry into Detention (released last night) with Recommendation 18 calling for the repeal of the legislation which imposes debts on asylum seekers for their stay in Australia’s hellholes.
At $125.40 per night or $225000 for 5 years- the tariff is stiff for a less than enjoyable stay.
Never thought that I would thank Sharman Stone for anything but there you are- seems that she is not quite hard as stone.

]]> By: Tom McLoughlin http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/12/02/turnbull-no-welcome-mat-for-people-smugglers/#comment-1915 Tom McLoughlin Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-1915 Watching the Howard Years II i was reminded of a few major events that I feel are quite connected politically<br /><br />1. The role of Australia in East Timor's emancipation in 1999;<br />2. The people smuggling racketeers apparently having greater flexibility to work with Indonesia's notoriously corrupt officials to aim for Australia, with the Tampa election in 2001;<br />3. The terrorist attacks on Bali in 2002.<br /><br />I can't shake the feeling they are more related than is really comfortable. One can almost feel the conservatives under Howard would be thinking we've already done enough on the humanitarian side of things. Our Govt don't deserve to be the soft touch after all that high risk geo politiks in 1999. Whether right or wrong, you can almost see them wringing their hands in self justification on border protection.<br /><br />Not saying this is worthy or correct but I can imagine that they probably thought of themselves as having heaps of humanitarian political capital in store. Only to squander it all, would be the observation. Watching the Howard Years II i was reminded of a few major events that I feel are quite connected politically

1. The role of Australia in East Timor’s emancipation in 1999;
2. The people smuggling racketeers apparently having greater flexibility to work with Indonesia’s notoriously corrupt officials to aim for Australia, with the Tampa election in 2001;
3. The terrorist attacks on Bali in 2002.

I can’t shake the feeling they are more related than is really comfortable. One can almost feel the conservatives under Howard would be thinking we’ve already done enough on the humanitarian side of things. Our Govt don’t deserve to be the soft touch after all that high risk geo politiks in 1999. Whether right or wrong, you can almost see them wringing their hands in self justification on border protection.

Not saying this is worthy or correct but I can imagine that they probably thought of themselves as having heaps of humanitarian political capital in store. Only to squander it all, would be the observation.

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