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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6704</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many lame-duck ministers and advisors are involved in this federal government health farce? Tim Mathieson loses his job as a hair colourant rep to suddenly appear on a couple of health-related panels with no meaningful or professional skilling other than being the deputy PM&#039;s paramour. Either that or  Shepparton Centrelink emailed Parliament House with some stunning credentials we know zilch about to fast-track his New Start. His vehicle carks it on the way to his first appearance as a mens health amabassador extraordinaire - does that mean he&#039;ll lodge an application today for a government vehicle - so he can be on time for his next official appointment as a Kidney Health Australia emissary.  Confidence in government is a myth.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many lame-duck ministers and advisors are involved in this federal government health farce? Tim Mathieson loses his job as a hair colourant rep to suddenly appear on a couple of health-related panels with no meaningful or professional skilling other than being the deputy PM&#8217;s paramour. Either that or  Shepparton Centrelink emailed Parliament House with some stunning credentials we know zilch about to fast-track his New Start. His vehicle carks it on the way to his first appearance as a mens health amabassador extraordinaire - does that mean he&#8217;ll lodge an application today for a government vehicle - so he can be on time for his next official appointment as a Kidney Health Australia emissary.  Confidence in government is a myth.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6705</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hang on .... isn&#039;t he a women&#039;s hairdresser?  &lt;br /&gt;Arty - this is about unintelligent leadership, no more...&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hang on &#8230;. isn&#8217;t he a women&#8217;s hairdresser?  <br />Arty - this is about unintelligent leadership, no more&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lynda Hopgood</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6706</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynda Hopgood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to ask Barry Williams if it is okay for two gay people, one male, one female, to live together and raise their biological children as a couple.  He seems to be suggesting that the important thing is the core family unit; one male, one female, coparenting their offspring.  If that is the case, he should raise no objection to those two people both being gay.  He SHOULD, but I&#039;m sure he&#039;d find some other reason why it&#039;s not good for the kids.  Again, hatred and intolerance at the core.  Why doesn&#039;t he just say he hates fags and leave it at that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to ask Barry Williams if it is okay for two gay people, one male, one female, to live together and raise their biological children as a couple.  He seems to be suggesting that the important thing is the core family unit; one male, one female, coparenting their offspring.  If that is the case, he should raise no objection to those two people both being gay.  He SHOULD, but I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;d find some other reason why it&#8217;s not good for the kids.  Again, hatred and intolerance at the core.  Why doesn&#8217;t he just say he hates fags and leave it at that?</p>
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		<title>By: KSpadden</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6707</link>
		<dc:creator>KSpadden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Far right anti feminist activists such as fathers4life often proclaim that women and men are equally abusive in domestic relationships.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a constant and deliberate misinterpretation of domestic abuse research data developed by sociologists Murray Straus and Richard Gelles. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dr Richard Gelles, one of the researchers who created the Conflict Tactic Scales, a method of evaluating intrapersonal violence has criticized radical fathers&#039; and men&#039;s rights groups for their misleading claims .Gelles, said that when we look at injuries resulting from violence involving male and female partners, it is categorically false to imply that there are the same number of &quot;battered&quot; men as there are battered women. Research shows that nearly 90 percent of battering victims are women and about ten percent are men.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;No doubt there are men who are abused by women; No one said that women are never abusive. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is galling about this repeated far right tripe is that far from promoting services for abused men it is used for silencing victims and undermining the services of the organisations helping domestic abuse victims.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They antagonise potential supporters. Attacking existing services for female survivors (they are all liars you know) and do male survivors of violence a great disservice. It is an attack on the very people who brought the issue of interpersonal violence to public attention in the first place and who have been leaders in this field. Successful helping models for men could be set up more effectively by working together and without people with grudges running interference.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The opinions they hold are very damaging.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Far right anti feminist activists such as fathers4life often proclaim that women and men are equally abusive in domestic relationships.  </p>
<p>This is a constant and deliberate misinterpretation of domestic abuse research data developed by sociologists Murray Straus and Richard Gelles. </p>
<p>Dr Richard Gelles, one of the researchers who created the Conflict Tactic Scales, a method of evaluating intrapersonal violence has criticized radical fathers&#8217; and men&#8217;s rights groups for their misleading claims .Gelles, said that when we look at injuries resulting from violence involving male and female partners, it is categorically false to imply that there are the same number of &#8220;battered&#8221; men as there are battered women. Research shows that nearly 90 percent of battering victims are women and about ten percent are men.</p>
<p>No doubt there are men who are abused by women; No one said that women are never abusive. </p>
<p>What is galling about this repeated far right tripe is that far from promoting services for abused men it is used for silencing victims and undermining the services of the organisations helping domestic abuse victims.</p>
<p>They antagonise potential supporters. Attacking existing services for female survivors (they are all liars you know) and do male survivors of violence a great disservice. It is an attack on the very people who brought the issue of interpersonal violence to public attention in the first place and who have been leaders in this field. Successful helping models for men could be set up more effectively by working together and without people with grudges running interference.  </p>
<p>The opinions they hold are very damaging.</p>
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		<title>By: Artemis</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6708</link>
		<dc:creator>Artemis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry Williams is Vice President of the Shared Parenting Council who have a definite anti gay stance if you do some proper research. They are also anti women although they will tolerate and use the second wives of men to further their own cause. Their website is www.familylawwebguide.com.au&lt;br /&gt;Some quotes from some key members of S.P.C.A.:&lt;br /&gt;&quot;A man wanting/having sex with another males is first and foremost a homosexual- and if the other male is a boy it also paedohilia. Once you break one of Gods commands-like no homosexuality- then the others follow, paedophilia, incest, bestiality, sex involving defecation and urination etc. All manner of perversions.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;There can&#039;t be a better illustration of the massive impact of the homosexual propaganda and the extent of the control it has over the media&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry Williams is Vice President of the Shared Parenting Council who have a definite anti gay stance if you do some proper research. They are also anti women although they will tolerate and use the second wives of men to further their own cause. Their website is <a href="http://www.familylawwebguide.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.familylawwebguide.com.au</a><br />Some quotes from some key members of S.P.C.A.:<br />&#8220;A man wanting/having sex with another males is first and foremost a homosexual- and if the other male is a boy it also paedohilia. Once you break one of Gods commands-like no homosexuality- then the others follow, paedophilia, incest, bestiality, sex involving defecation and urination etc. All manner of perversions.&#8221;</p>
<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>There can&#8217;t be a better illustration of the massive impact of the homosexual propaganda and the extent of the control it has over the media&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6709</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John James you are one bigoted sick S.O.B. Your religious hokus pokus ensures your comments are a joke, better suited to the Inquisition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John James you are one bigoted sick S.O.B. Your religious hokus pokus ensures your comments are a joke, better suited to the Inquisition.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Harvey M Tarvydas #2</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6710</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Harvey M Tarvydas #2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what they are without help is very easy to disparage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what they are without help is very easy to disparage.</p>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6711</link>
		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please sign our petition to get this guy off the committee:&lt;br /&gt;http://www.gopetition.com.au/online/23630.html&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please sign our petition to get this guy off the committee:<br /><a href="http://www.gopetition.com.au/online/23630.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.gopetition.com.au/online/23630.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: stevie</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6712</link>
		<dc:creator>stevie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What defines hate speech? Is it speech which which people don&#039;t agree? The only thing more dangerous than hate speech is those who want to silence speech. Careful for what you wish for people.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What defines hate speech? Is it speech which which people don&#8217;t agree? The only thing more dangerous than hate speech is those who want to silence speech. Careful for what you wish for people.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6713</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and John James...you simply couldn&#039;t have been more wrong about the result of the US election....so whatever compass has been giving you directions this last six months or so doesn&#039;t count for dogshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and John James&#8230;you simply couldn&#8217;t have been more wrong about the result of the US election&#8230;.so whatever compass has been giving you directions this last six months or so doesn&#8217;t count for dogshit.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6714</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John James: Please read Justin&#039;s comment about Marilyn, multiply by ten thousand, then square the result to arrive at other peoples&#039; opinion of you. You are so much of a joke that even the Catholic Church is jack of you. Your odious and idiotic views are tolerated by no one. Least of all the side which you claim to support. &lt;br /&gt;Suddenly, I see the truth. You are not a member of the Roman Catholic faith are you? You&#039;re working the other side of the fence. You are out to undo the Catholic Church. Well, why bother? They&#039;re doing a fine job on their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John James: Please read Justin&#8217;s comment about Marilyn, multiply by ten thousand, then square the result to arrive at other peoples&#8217; opinion of you. You are so much of a joke that even the Catholic Church is jack of you. Your odious and idiotic views are tolerated by no one. Least of all the side which you claim to support. <br />Suddenly, I see the truth. You are not a member of the Roman Catholic faith are you? You&#8217;re working the other side of the fence. You are out to undo the Catholic Church. Well, why bother? They&#8217;re doing a fine job on their own.</p>
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		<title>By: John James</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6715</link>
		<dc:creator>John James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;A functioning moral compass is all that suffices&quot;. Coming from apologists for abortion and sodomy that would have to rank  with the &quot; I did not have sexual relations with that woman &quot; statement from that champion of unborn children and women&#039;s rights, Bill &#039;Slick Willy&#039; Clinton, who is about to be inducted into Bernard and the Left&#039;s Hall of Fame, as the most amazing piece of fantasy. Poor Woof! &lt;br /&gt;This will be interesting come the next election.  Already in the UK ,Catholic adoption agencies have closed because they will not place children, often the same kids rescued from the abortionist&#039;s knife, with sodomites. The Left is corrupt, but this is a new low.&lt;br /&gt;Soon, they&#039;ll be trying to rewrite Genesis.&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ll be interested to see Kevin&#039;s take on this. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="quo">&#8216;</span>A functioning moral compass is all that suffices&#8221;. Coming from apologists for abortion and sodomy that would have to rank  with the &#8221; I did not have sexual relations with that woman &#8221; statement from that champion of unborn children and women&#8217;s rights, Bill &#8216;Slick Willy&#8217; Clinton, who is about to be inducted into Bernard and the Left&#8217;s Hall of Fame, as the most amazing piece of fantasy. Poor Woof! <br />This will be interesting come the next election.  Already in the UK ,Catholic adoption agencies have closed because they will not place children, often the same kids rescued from the abortionist&#8217;s knife, with sodomites. The Left is corrupt, but this is a new low.<br />Soon, they&#8217;ll be trying to rewrite Genesis.<br />I&#8217;ll be interested to see Kevin&#8217;s take on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6716</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roxon&#039;s policy-making on mens health via a skewed ambassadorial panel selected by dumbed down green horn personal and department advisory teams is the perfect recipe for an administrative failure.  And when the entire cabinet beavers away with the same blunt instruments and governance mud maps who do we turn to next election? Revive the over-the-cliff lemmings or do a NSW and let it run itself. This glaring crack in Rudd&#039;s government is possibly why he has a finger in every pie. Kev - it&#039;s about de-politicising the public service and educating the party turks. You&#039;re only as good as the hired help. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roxon&#8217;s policy-making on mens health via a skewed ambassadorial panel selected by dumbed down green horn personal and department advisory teams is the perfect recipe for an administrative failure.  And when the entire cabinet beavers away with the same blunt instruments and governance mud maps who do we turn to next election? Revive the over-the-cliff lemmings or do a NSW and let it run itself. This glaring crack in Rudd&#8217;s government is possibly why he has a finger in every pie. Kev - it&#8217;s about de-politicising the public service and educating the party turks. You&#8217;re only as good as the hired help.</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6717</link>
		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a hysterical rant from these homophiles.&lt;br /&gt;So people object to homosexuality, get over it. They have that right.&lt;br /&gt;Since when was two men practicing the clearly evolutionary untenable ok ? Or do people delude themselves that American sitcoms and a few trendies are the font of all knowledge ?&lt;br /&gt;Bernard Keane should get over himself. Those two blokes he has a hissy fit about are perfectly decent blokes who should be proud ( pun intended ) of their views. They have a sterling record of campaigning for childrends rights. Homosexuals are 1.5% of the population ( not 10% ) so if anyone who has straight values are the norm for mens health.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a hysterical rant from these homophiles.<br />So people object to homosexuality, get over it. They have that right.<br />Since when was two men practicing the clearly evolutionary untenable ok ? Or do people delude themselves that American sitcoms and a few trendies are the font of all knowledge ?<br />Bernard Keane should get over himself. Those two blokes he has a hissy fit about are perfectly decent blokes who should be proud ( pun intended ) of their views. They have a sterling record of campaigning for childrends rights. Homosexuals are 1.5% of the population ( not 10% ) so if anyone who has straight values are the norm for mens health.</p>
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		<title>By: justin</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6718</link>
		<dc:creator>justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marilyn... Do you truly believe in the positions you take? I&#039;m going to assume you do as your everywhere and at least, constant.  If you really are committed to the causes you seem to support, don&#039;t you think it would be best if your actions HELPED those causes?... I can assure you, the way you conduct yourself around the blogosphere does the opposite. Your considered a joke by most, a flake by many and a whack-job by a few. Those of us that actually care about some of the things you go on about, are indeed, frustrated and quite frankly embarrassed and pissed off with your style. You want to help?,  then you need to adjust your approach.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your NOT helping, your hurting&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unless of course, you are,  as a significant number of people believe, a deliberate &quot; caricature&quot; for vested interest to use as an example to dismiss &quot;bloggers&quot; as a bunch of reactionary flakes&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marilyn&#8230; Do you truly believe in the positions you take? I&#8217;m going to assume you do as your everywhere and at least, constant.  If you really are committed to the causes you seem to support, don&#8217;t you think it would be best if your actions HELPED those causes?&#8230; I can assure you, the way you conduct yourself around the blogosphere does the opposite. Your considered a joke by most, a flake by many and a whack-job by a few. Those of us that actually care about some of the things you go on about, are indeed, frustrated and quite frankly embarrassed and pissed off with your style. You want to help?,  then you need to adjust your approach.</p>
<p>Your NOT helping, your hurting</p>
<p>Unless of course, you are,  as a significant number of people believe, a deliberate &#8221; caricature&#8221; for vested interest to use as an example to dismiss &#8220;bloggers&#8221; as a bunch of reactionary flakes</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6719</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(you don&#039;t believe the job is paid)</description>
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		<title>By: Marilyn</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6720</link>
		<dc:creator>Marilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what if Mathieson is only a bloke.    At least Gillard didn&#039;t give him her  phone card and the job is not paid.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why on earth do you have to get yourselves into such a tizzy about such bloody trivia.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Where were you when kids were being tortured in concentration camps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what if Mathieson is only a bloke.    At least Gillard didn&#8217;t give him her  phone card and the job is not paid.</p>
<p>Why on earth do you have to get yourselves into such a tizzy about such bloody trivia.</p>
<p>Where were you when kids were being tortured in concentration camps?</p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6721</link>
		<dc:creator>Marilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What on earth is wrong with Mathieson, he is not married to anyone of note and has not hurt anyone like the right wing fundamentalist christian nutjob Williams.   Yep I did some more checking and lo and behold there were the dodgy ministries and the Family first nutty pastor and his sidekick in the SA parliament disguised as real politicians.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&#039;t know why Roxon wants a representative of the sole fathers mob though because they are usually sole fathers because they have deserted their own kids while sole mothers are forced to get a job when the kids turn 8 or get branded sluts, whores and losers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What on earth is wrong with Mathieson, he is not married to anyone of note and has not hurt anyone like the right wing fundamentalist christian nutjob Williams.   Yep I did some more checking and lo and behold there were the dodgy ministries and the Family first nutty pastor and his sidekick in the SA parliament disguised as real politicians.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why Roxon wants a representative of the sole fathers mob though because they are usually sole fathers because they have deserted their own kids while sole mothers are forced to get a job when the kids turn 8 or get branded sluts, whores and losers.</p>
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		<title>By: Gibbot</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6722</link>
		<dc:creator>Gibbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John James - I think you&#039;re confused. This is Crikey, not the Daily Telegraph. Stick to articles you understand - the ones with big pictures.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or just have a good lie down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John James - I think you&#8217;re confused. This is Crikey, not the Daily Telegraph. Stick to articles you understand - the ones with big pictures.</p>
<p>Or just have a good lie down.</p>
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		<title>By: Gail</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6723</link>
		<dc:creator>Gail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim Mathieson&#039;s appointment is jobs for the boys...&lt;br /&gt;Reporting on men&#039;s health from a hairdresser&#039;s point of view... Give us a break&lt;br /&gt;Our Australian men deserve better than this.&lt;br /&gt;Nicola Roxon widen up your casting range to cover those blokes that don&#039;t have a VERY close association with Julia Gillard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim Mathieson&#8217;s appointment is jobs for the boys&#8230;<br />Reporting on men&#8217;s health from a hairdresser&#8217;s point of view&#8230; Give us a break<br />Our Australian men deserve better than this.<br />Nicola Roxon widen up your casting range to cover those blokes that don&#8217;t have a VERY close association with Julia Gillard</p>
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		<title>By: Guillaume A</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6724</link>
		<dc:creator>Guillaume A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should Roxon take all the heat for this? Did Rudd and Jordan let this happen when they were sipping on Pisco Sours in Peru? Surely every ministerial appointment still goes to Cabinet and gets vetted by the PM&#039;s minders before it does? That&#039;s what used to happen. Same under Fraser, Hawke, Keating and Howard. Can&#039;t imagine any recent change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should Roxon take all the heat for this? Did Rudd and Jordan let this happen when they were sipping on Pisco Sours in Peru? Surely every ministerial appointment still goes to Cabinet and gets vetted by the PM&#8217;s minders before it does? That&#8217;s what used to happen. Same under Fraser, Hawke, Keating and Howard. Can&#8217;t imagine any recent change.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Keane</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6725</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard Keane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A number of the comments here have suggested Barry Williams isn&#039;t an appropriate ambassador because he has expressed views that could be interpreted as anti-gay and anti-women.  I also note that the idea that ambassadors should be people who could target those otherwise beyond the reach of normal campaigns has been caricatured along the lines of &quot;why don&#039;t they have a member of the KKK to reach racists.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The article above was intended to try to tease out exactly the issue of how far making someone an unpaid ambassador amounts to an endorsement of their views, particularly when the Government is explicitly trying to reach out to the marginalised.  Given the views about domestic violence programs that Williams has put his name to, and the link between that issue and men&#039;s health, I&#039;m inclined to the view that he is not an appropriate ambassador.  But I haven&#039;t seen anything more clearly anti-gay from Williams than his views on same-sex couples that I discussed.  If he has made anti-gay comments then that would strengthen the case for his being an inappropriate ambassador, because, again, it goes directly to the issue of men&#039;s health.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However the mere fact that the man might hold views on family issues unrelated to men&#039;s health that I disagree with is not, in my view, a reason to dump him.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for the notion that selecting someone like Williams is tantamount to picking a racist to appeal to bigots is nonsense.  Adherents of any sort of bigotry cannot be a legitimate ambassador for something like men&#039;s health because they&#039;ll inevitably be prejudiced toward a subsection of men.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And for those trying to talk sense into Marilyn, foggedaboudit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A number of the comments here have suggested Barry Williams isn&#8217;t an appropriate ambassador because he has expressed views that could be interpreted as anti-gay and anti-women.  I also note that the idea that ambassadors should be people who could target those otherwise beyond the reach of normal campaigns has been caricatured along the lines of &#8220;why don&#8217;t they have a member of the KKK to reach racists.&#8221;</p>
<p>The article above was intended to try to tease out exactly the issue of how far making someone an unpaid ambassador amounts to an endorsement of their views, particularly when the Government is explicitly trying to reach out to the marginalised.  Given the views about domestic violence programs that Williams has put his name to, and the link between that issue and men&#8217;s health, I&#8217;m inclined to the view that he is not an appropriate ambassador.  But I haven&#8217;t seen anything more clearly anti-gay from Williams than his views on same-sex couples that I discussed.  If he has made anti-gay comments then that would strengthen the case for his being an inappropriate ambassador, because, again, it goes directly to the issue of men&#8217;s health.  </p>
<p>However the mere fact that the man might hold views on family issues unrelated to men&#8217;s health that I disagree with is not, in my view, a reason to dump him.  </p>
<p>As for the notion that selecting someone like Williams is tantamount to picking a racist to appeal to bigots is nonsense.  Adherents of any sort of bigotry cannot be a legitimate ambassador for something like men&#8217;s health because they&#8217;ll inevitably be prejudiced toward a subsection of men.</p>
<p>And for those trying to talk sense into Marilyn, foggedaboudit.</p>
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		<title>By: mick</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6726</link>
		<dc:creator>mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And other/s on this appointment have secrets yet to be exposed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And other/s on this appointment have secrets yet to be exposed</p>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6727</link>
		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy is obviously very unhealthy to the rest of the population.  Barry Williams needs to be dismissed too.  Threatening to sue is a common trait amongst his colleagues at the SPCA:&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Just in case you think we are doing nothing about the blogger, please remember that building a legal case takes time - we like to win!&lt;br /&gt;Senior Executive Member SRL - Resources&quot;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.familylawwebguide.com.au/forum/index.php?page=topicview&amp;id=3193&amp;kfs104=0&lt;br /&gt;There is  a group of bloggers(http://thesharedparentingdisaster.blogspot.com/search/label/Family%20Law%20Web%20Guide&lt;br /&gt;http://anonymums.blogspot.com/search/label/Shared%20Parenting%20Council%20Of%20Australia&lt;br /&gt;http://exposethetruth08.blogspot.com/&lt;br /&gt;), that I have come across that have been exposing how sexist and violence supportive the SPCA are(Barry williams is the vice president of http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_3OgwBkoGmAc/SSaBbe8p33I/AAAAAAAAAOI/L_lz5G40FII/s1600-h/SPCAfront.JPG).  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy is obviously very unhealthy to the rest of the population.  Barry Williams needs to be dismissed too.  Threatening to sue is a common trait amongst his colleagues at the SPCA:<br />&#8220;Just in case you think we are doing nothing about the blogger, please remember that building a legal case takes time - we like to win!<br />Senior Executive Member SRL - Resources&#8221;<br /><a href="http://www.familylawwebguide.com.au/forum/index.php?page=topicview&#038;id=3193&#038;kfs104=0" rel="nofollow">http://www.familylawwebguide.com.au/forum/index.php?page=topicview&#038;id=3193&#038;kfs104=0</a><br />There is  a group of bloggers(http://thesharedparentingdisaster.blogspot.com/search/label/Family%20Law%20Web%20Guide<br /><a href="http://anonymums.blogspot.com/search/label/Shared%20Parenting%20Council%20Of%20Australia" rel="nofollow">http://anonymums.blogspot.com/search/label/Shared%20Parenting%20Council%20Of%20Australia</a><br /><a href="http://exposethetruth08.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://exposethetruth08.blogspot.com/</a><br />), that I have come across that have been exposing how sexist and violence supportive the SPCA are(Barry williams is the vice president of <a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_3OgwBkoGmAc/SSaBbe8p33I/AAAAAAAAAOI/L_lz5G40FII/s1600-h/SPCAfront.JPG" rel="nofollow">http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_3OgwBkoGmAc/SSaBbe8p33I/AAAAAAAAAOI/L_lz5G40FII/s1600-h/SPCAfront.JPG</a>).  </p>
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		<title>By: John James# 2</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/27/roxons-ambassadors-homophobic-sexist-and-totally-inappropriate/#comment-6728</link>
		<dc:creator>John James# 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the boys in leather are out in force. I had to laugh at the cartoon in the Australian to-day with the customer in the barber shop telling Tim Mathieson he wanted a short back and sides and then asking, alarmingly, what he was doing with the rubber glove.&lt;br /&gt;Dave, Abbo&#039;s big enough to speak for himself but I&#039;d be surprised if his commnets were based on the notion that homosexual practice should be regarded as acceptable and that is the point of contention in this debate.&lt;br /&gt;I do not imagine a practising homosexual  would be allowed to teach in any Catholic institution and my earlier posting &#039;s reference to the closing of Catholic adoption agencies in the UK  is further evidence of the abhorrence with which the Mystical Body of Christ views this abominable desacration of the human body.&lt;br /&gt;Nick, defending sodomy! Mate, what next? Bestiality?  What was that about dogshit?&lt;br /&gt;I note that plebiscites in 3 states n the recent American election, all repudiating homosexual practice, were carried.   &lt;br /&gt;Try telling parents with kids that their children should be exposed to this drivel. That the Left champions this corruption is feeding radical Islam&#039;s assaults on the West. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the boys in leather are out in force. I had to laugh at the cartoon in the Australian to-day with the customer in the barber shop telling Tim Mathieson he wanted a short back and sides and then asking, alarmingly, what he was doing with the rubber glove.<br />Dave, Abbo&#8217;s big enough to speak for himself but I&#8217;d be surprised if his commnets were based on the notion that homosexual practice should be regarded as acceptable and that is the point of contention in this debate.<br />I do not imagine a practising homosexual  would be allowed to teach in any Catholic institution and my earlier posting &#8216;s reference to the closing of Catholic adoption agencies in the UK  is further evidence of the abhorrence with which the Mystical Body of Christ views this abominable desacration of the human body.<br />Nick, defending sodomy! Mate, what next? Bestiality?  What was that about dogshit?<br />I note that plebiscites in 3 states n the recent American election, all repudiating homosexual practice, were carried.   <br />Try telling parents with kids that their children should be exposed to this drivel. That the Left champions this corruption is feeding radical Islam&#8217;s assaults on the West.</p>
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