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		<title>By: Con Bird</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/26/the-very-right-wing-rev-rudd/#comment-4802</link>
		<dc:creator>Con Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warren Buffett:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/26/business/yourmoney/26every.html&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just because the days of kids and labourers going down stinking coal mine shafts are over (in the West any way) does not mean that class warfare is not being waged, it is covert and representative democracy has tended to water down any sort of class consciousness that may have existed in the West.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What/who controls the economy, culture and politics? The ruling class, ie. capitalists. It is true that what it means to be &quot;working class&quot; has changed over the years, and there is some potential for members of the working class to gain capital through loans etc..however it is not possible to say that the middle class or small business owners have more influence over the economy, culture or politics than say Rupert Murdoch or major financial institutions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, from the ABS&lt;br /&gt;The share of the economy going to profits has hit the highest level since the ABS started keeping records in 1959, while the share allocated to wages has hit a new 43-year low, today&#039;s National Accounts data has revealed. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The data shows the &quot;profits share&quot; of the economy hit a new record high of 27.8% in trend terms, the greatest share going to profits since the ABS began collecting the data in the September quarter of 1959. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the same time, the &quot;wages share&quot; of the economy fell to 52.7% &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just because the term &quot;class war&quot; seems cliched and old fashioned does not mean that it does not exist. It is a tragedy that the winning team (Warren Buffett and his friends) can see and wage this war.  The losing classes are so over worked; stressed by mortgages and interest rates; distracted by reality TV and plasmas and caught up with celebrity style politics to the point that they pose no real challenge to the system. Workers are playing by the rules of the ruling class and are getting ripped off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren Buffett:</p>
<p>“There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/26/business/yourmoney/26every.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/26/business/yourmoney/26every.html</a></p>
<p>Just because the days of kids and labourers going down stinking coal mine shafts are over (in the West any way) does not mean that class warfare is not being waged, it is covert and representative democracy has tended to water down any sort of class consciousness that may have existed in the West.</p>
<p>What/who controls the economy, culture and politics? The ruling class, ie. capitalists. It is true that what it means to be &#8220;working class&#8221; has changed over the years, and there is some potential for members of the working class to gain capital through loans etc..however it is not possible to say that the middle class or small business owners have more influence over the economy, culture or politics than say Rupert Murdoch or major financial institutions.</p>
<p>Also, from the ABS<br />The share of the economy going to profits has hit the highest level since the ABS started keeping records in 1959, while the share allocated to wages has hit a new 43-year low, today&#8217;s National Accounts data has revealed. </p>
<p>The data shows the &#8220;profits share&#8221; of the economy hit a new record high of 27.8% in trend terms, the greatest share going to profits since the ABS began collecting the data in the September quarter of 1959. </p>
<p>At the same time, the &#8220;wages share&#8221; of the economy fell to 52.7% </p>
<p>Just because the term &#8220;class war&#8221; seems cliched and old fashioned does not mean that it does not exist. It is a tragedy that the winning team (Warren Buffett and his friends) can see and wage this war.  The losing classes are so over worked; stressed by mortgages and interest rates; distracted by reality TV and plasmas and caught up with celebrity style politics to the point that they pose no real challenge to the system. Workers are playing by the rules of the ruling class and are getting ripped off.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Duffett</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/26/the-very-right-wing-rev-rudd/#comment-4803</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Duffett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...except possibly Guy Rundle (though I live in hope that even he might cringe at McQueen&#039;s contribution here).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;except possibly Guy Rundle (though I live in hope that even he might cringe at McQueen&#8217;s contribution here).</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Keane</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/26/the-very-right-wing-rev-rudd/#comment-4804</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard Keane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Humphrey &quot;atheism is just another religion&quot; McQueen normally makes Guy look a paragon of common sense.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Although in this instance, it&#039;s entirely unclear what on earth he&#039;s going on about.  I think he doesn&#039;t like Kevin Rudd, and something about his religion, but beyond that, sorry, no idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humphrey &#8220;atheism is just another religion&#8221; McQueen normally makes Guy look a paragon of common sense.</p>
<p>Although in this instance, it&#8217;s entirely unclear what on earth he&#8217;s going on about.  I think he doesn&#8217;t like Kevin Rudd, and something about his religion, but beyond that, sorry, no idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Duffett</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/26/the-very-right-wing-rev-rudd/#comment-4805</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Duffett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d never heard of RH Tawney before now, but I bet he would have said his commitment to social equality was rooted in his Christianity, not the other way round.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is far from the only thing back to front here.  Multiple choice question: It would be more effective to&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;a) join a non-violent protest&lt;br /&gt;b) get arrested in support of a just cause&lt;br /&gt;c) become Prime Minister.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Apparently, according to McQueen, the correct answers are a) and b)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Similarly bizarre is taking a swipe at Greg Combet, seemingly because he succeeded in bringing down WorkChoices without going to prison.  WTF?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally he equates calling a boss a &quot;f-cking thieving parasite dog&quot; with &#039;advocacy of social equality&#039;.  WTF?!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Clearly he doesn&#039;t realise how Cretaceous all his class warfare bullsh!t sounds to modern ears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d never heard of RH Tawney before now, but I bet he would have said his commitment to social equality was rooted in his Christianity, not the other way round.</p>
<p>This is far from the only thing back to front here.  Multiple choice question: It would be more effective to</p>
<p>a) join a non-violent protest<br />b) get arrested in support of a just cause<br />c) become Prime Minister.</p>
<p>Apparently, according to McQueen, the correct answers are a) and b)</p>
<p>Similarly bizarre is taking a swipe at Greg Combet, seemingly because he succeeded in bringing down WorkChoices without going to prison.  WTF?</p>
<p>Finally he equates calling a boss a &#8220;f-cking thieving parasite dog&#8221; with &#8216;advocacy of social equality&#8217;.  WTF?!!</p>
<p>Clearly he doesn&#8217;t realise how Cretaceous all his class warfare bullsh!t sounds to modern ears.</p>
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		<title>By: Con Bird</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/26/the-very-right-wing-rev-rudd/#comment-4806</link>
		<dc:creator>Con Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/26/the-very-right-wing-rev-rudd/#comment-4807</link>
		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With Guy Rundle&#039;s recent post-US-election &quot;Jesus freaks&quot; insult and Humphrey&#039;s ridiculous stone throwing at Christians-in-parliament today, Crikey abandons the high ground and joins the rabble that nibbles away at civilized and tolerant society one jibe at a time.   It&#039;s beneath you guys. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nice one on the Batchelor story though.  I&#039;ve been there, it&#039;s awesome, it&#039;s REAL news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With Guy Rundle&#8217;s recent post-US-election &#8220;Jesus freaks&#8221; insult and Humphrey&#8217;s ridiculous stone throwing at Christians-in-parliament today, Crikey abandons the high ground and joins the rabble that nibbles away at civilized and tolerant society one jibe at a time.   It&#8217;s beneath you guys. </p>
<p>Nice one on the Batchelor story though.  I&#8217;ve been there, it&#8217;s awesome, it&#8217;s REAL news.</p>
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