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	<title>Comments on: Business briefs: Retail figures to paint a grim picture&#8230; Waiting for Black Friday</title>
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		<title>By: Marilyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These gaming casinos were always just a pack of cards though but you ought to have a look at the blaming of Robert Rubin a bit closer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That is the US media desparately trying to find an obscure way to blame President Clinton for the current mess rather than the boy they lavishly supported up until this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These gaming casinos were always just a pack of cards though but you ought to have a look at the blaming of Robert Rubin a bit closer.</p>
<p>That is the US media desparately trying to find an obscure way to blame President Clinton for the current mess rather than the boy they lavishly supported up until this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward James </title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward James </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The D word for me is derivatives, and I am not reading enough about how they have yet to be measured in terms of damage.  Back on the 23 of November 2008 my subscription to Money and Markets  had this story. Citigroup Failure Imminent,,, by Martin D. Weiss, Ph.D. reproduced in part.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; At mid-year, June 30, 2008, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC) reported that Citi&#039;s primary banking unit, Citibank NA, held $37.1 trillion in total notional value derivatives, including $3.6 trillion in credit default swaps, which, in recent months, have proven to be the most dangerous category.  At mid-year, June 30, 2008, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC) reported that Citi&#039;s primary banking unit, Citibank NA, held $37.1 trillion in total notional value derivatives, including $3.6 trillion in credit default swaps, which, in recent months, have proven to be the most dangerous category. &lt;br /&gt;In contrast, Wachovia bank, bought out by JP Morgan Chase in a deal brokered by the regulators, had only $4.4 trillion in derivatives, among which $404 billion were in credit default swaps, or only one-ninth the size of Citigroup&#039;s. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I had read a few weeks ago in the Australian I think that the big four banks in Australia had almost three times their cash asserts tied up in derivatives.  People like me will ask for our  money particularly when we need to buy food. To me it looks like successive governments including ours have allowed their mates in the money game to trade while insolvent. Tell me how tipping in billions of dollars, when trillions are missing will help? Correct me if I am wrong but it looks to me like, the people at the bottom will be stuck with the bill for the world wide economic mismanagement.  &lt;br /&gt;Edward James </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The D word for me is derivatives, and I am not reading enough about how they have yet to be measured in terms of damage.  Back on the 23 of November 2008 my subscription to Money and Markets  had this story. Citigroup Failure Imminent,,, by Martin D. Weiss, Ph.D. reproduced in part.</p>
<p> At mid-year, June 30, 2008, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC) reported that Citi&#8217;s primary banking unit, Citibank NA, held $37.1 trillion in total notional value derivatives, including $3.6 trillion in credit default swaps, which, in recent months, have proven to be the most dangerous category.  At mid-year, June 30, 2008, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC) reported that Citi&#8217;s primary banking unit, Citibank NA, held $37.1 trillion in total notional value derivatives, including $3.6 trillion in credit default swaps, which, in recent months, have proven to be the most dangerous category. <br />In contrast, Wachovia bank, bought out by JP Morgan Chase in a deal brokered by the regulators, had only $4.4 trillion in derivatives, among which $404 billion were in credit default swaps, or only one-ninth the size of Citigroup&#8217;s. </p>
<p>I had read a few weeks ago in the Australian I think that the big four banks in Australia had almost three times their cash asserts tied up in derivatives.  People like me will ask for our  money particularly when we need to buy food. To me it looks like successive governments including ours have allowed their mates in the money game to trade while insolvent. Tell me how tipping in billions of dollars, when trillions are missing will help? Correct me if I am wrong but it looks to me like, the people at the bottom will be stuck with the bill for the world wide economic mismanagement.  <br />Edward James</p>
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		<title>By: Edward James </title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward James </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest of buildings have in the past been built with the best of bricks.  I am, or was one of those bricks.  My commonwealth bank is telling me it would be silly to remove my seventy thousand dollars as I would loose the interest of around six thousand. for the year.   We are all of us right now gamblers.  because I can read about sub prime loans, consolidated debt obligations and derivatives. Fiscal tools i had no need to understand until now.  There is no way I would bet seventy thousand to win six. Where I live and work it takes a paye worker thirty years to save seventy thousand dollars.  Yet I am trusting politicians to protect me from the misfeasance of banking and finance intuitions. I am questioning my judgement. And i am doing it right outv in public because I would like to trust that others like my self dont see the point in supporting a dysfunctional system which is based on something for nothing. multiplied by X infinity.&lt;br /&gt;I am sure Mr Stephan Mayne and many others can  explain why I shpould not be concerned about the dollar value of derivitives and how it will insurance and the capacity to continue doing business. Cheers Edward James Umina CBD &lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest of buildings have in the past been built with the best of bricks.  I am, or was one of those bricks.  My commonwealth bank is telling me it would be silly to remove my seventy thousand dollars as I would loose the interest of around six thousand. for the year.   We are all of us right now gamblers.  because I can read about sub prime loans, consolidated debt obligations and derivatives. Fiscal tools i had no need to understand until now.  There is no way I would bet seventy thousand to win six. Where I live and work it takes a paye worker thirty years to save seventy thousand dollars.  Yet I am trusting politicians to protect me from the misfeasance of banking and finance intuitions. I am questioning my judgement. And i am doing it right outv in public because I would like to trust that others like my self dont see the point in supporting a dysfunctional system which is based on something for nothing. multiplied by X infinity.<br />I am sure Mr Stephan Mayne and many others can  explain why I shpould not be concerned about the dollar value of derivitives and how it will insurance and the capacity to continue doing business. Cheers Edward James Umina CBD </p>
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