Comments on: NSW, the premier state: for unemployment, dysfunction … http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/18/nsw-the-premier-state-for-unemployment-dysfunction/ now with extra source Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:23:56 +1100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: rob http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/18/nsw-the-premier-state-for-unemployment-dysfunction/#comment-19037 rob Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-19037 Another bias article by a biased righter [sic]. Bernard Keane suggests that the short term fix for NSW is an abandonment of the democratic process of electing governments for fixed terms and replacing that with an election whenever a government becomes unpopular. What a practical and well thought out solution Bern. But what are the libs offering us exactly? Put some cards on the table eh? I am betting that we will get new native vegetation laws that lead to wholesale clearing, that will be really good for us all won’t it, and what about power stations? Sold as well, we all dislike our current labour pollutions but what are we replacing them with? Sooner or later we will have to know this and if it happens after the election it will be too late.<br />Leave the "do us all a favour and quit" line for the retards at limited news bern and do us all a favour and propose some practical solutions or at least expose exactly how the opposition will help the situation. <br /> Another bias article by a biased righter [sic]. Bernard Keane suggests that the short term fix for NSW is an abandonment of the democratic process of electing governments for fixed terms and replacing that with an election whenever a government becomes unpopular. What a practical and well thought out solution Bern. But what are the libs offering us exactly? Put some cards on the table eh? I am betting that we will get new native vegetation laws that lead to wholesale clearing, that will be really good for us all won’t it, and what about power stations? Sold as well, we all dislike our current labour pollutions but what are we replacing them with? Sooner or later we will have to know this and if it happens after the election it will be too late.
Leave the “do us all a favour and quit” line for the retards at limited news bern and do us all a favour and propose some practical solutions or at least expose exactly how the opposition will help the situation.

]]> By: Tom McLoughlin http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/18/nsw-the-premier-state-for-unemployment-dysfunction/#comment-19038 Tom McLoughlin Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-19038 Well said Rob. Democracy anyone?<br /><br />This article completely misreads the NSW dynamic in some important ways. About 20 goose MPs in the ALP Right are cranky with Rees for dumping Stewart MP from cabinet. These were the folks who built the poor polling the govt are in now. So Rees is cutting a new track away from their nepotistic ways. That's encouraging.<br /><br />2. He's tough. Contradicting a minister to her face in front of the press gallery to be more professional in her language, even if talk of developers seeking favours.<br /><br />3. so far he communicates with cut through. The brothel - 1.5 out of 10 scale of issue given the malice and motives and weak factual basis of the front page story. Good call, champ.<br /><br />4. it's the tabloid editor who got the shove not Rees this last 4 days. That's significant. <br /><br />5. Rudd owes Rees backers for the Your Rights at Work federal election victory in many ways let alone the leadership. It's all part of the same machine.<br /><br />6. as confirmed by phone with Imre Salusinszky yesterday, everyone might expect Rudd to go before end of 2010, but technically he can go by April 2011. And under the NSW constitution if there is a clash Rees can bring his state to the polls first. So the sabre rattling about NSW electorally is a bit hollow.<br /><br />7. Ridout is changing her story by the interview. Is NSW 30% of the national economy? Is it 33%? Is it 25% as one wonk suggested last week? It sort of matters. Gittins has also moderated his critique.<br /><br />8. Kennett is leading in The Oz p1 about how he can slash and burn and do a Victoria 1990ies in 5 years here in NSW. So let's get this straight - $B's of windfall profit like Vic energy selloff AFTER the GFC? It's a fairytale. <br /><br />9. Keating whines about Robertson MP to anyone who will listen, but he couldn't tell the difference in the SMH between a 1997 sell off proposal with $10B of transmission assets included and 2007 without. Only a fool would say that wildly reckless accounting by PK was unrelated to Lazard Carnegie Wylie Well said Rob. Democracy anyone?

This article completely misreads the NSW dynamic in some important ways. About 20 goose MPs in the ALP Right are cranky with Rees for dumping Stewart MP from cabinet. These were the folks who built the poor polling the govt are in now. So Rees is cutting a new track away from their nepotistic ways. That’s encouraging.

2. He’s tough. Contradicting a minister to her face in front of the press gallery to be more professional in her language, even if talk of developers seeking favours.

3. so far he communicates with cut through. The brothel - 1.5 out of 10 scale of issue given the malice and motives and weak factual basis of the front page story. Good call, champ.

4. it’s the tabloid editor who got the shove not Rees this last 4 days. That’s significant.

5. Rudd owes Rees backers for the Your Rights at Work federal election victory in many ways let alone the leadership. It’s all part of the same machine.

6. as confirmed by phone with Imre Salusinszky yesterday, everyone might expect Rudd to go before end of 2010, but technically he can go by April 2011. And under the NSW constitution if there is a clash Rees can bring his state to the polls first. So the sabre rattling about NSW electorally is a bit hollow.

7. Ridout is changing her story by the interview. Is NSW 30% of the national economy? Is it 33%? Is it 25% as one wonk suggested last week? It sort of matters. Gittins has also moderated his critique.

8. Kennett is leading in The Oz p1 about how he can slash and burn and do a Victoria 1990ies in 5 years here in NSW. So let’s get this straight - $B’s of windfall profit like Vic energy selloff AFTER the GFC? It’s a fairytale.

9. Keating whines about Robertson MP to anyone who will listen, but he couldn’t tell the difference in the SMH between a 1997 sell off proposal with $10B of transmission assets included and 2007 without. Only a fool would say that wildly reckless accounting by PK was unrelated to Lazard Carnegie Wylie

]]> By: Tom McL http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/18/nsw-the-premier-state-for-unemployment-dysfunction/#comment-19039 Tom McL Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-19039 Err just to clarify my ambiguity, I meant democracy is important. Didn't mean attack on Bernard as a "biased rigther" as such. I just disagree with him about 4 year terms. <br /><br />There is no doubt many would like to junk the 4 year reform, not least the culture of grievance being promoted by the energy sale big media, but I think they would be wiser to campaign for a constitutional mechanism of a recall like California if they really want to, with say 5-10% of the voters petition. <br /><br />Even then I think they should watch Enron:Smartest Guys in the Room before they get too excited about a recall - screen jockeys screwed Governor Davis with manufactured brown outs and black outs, gouged outrageous fees and forced a recall, thank you free market! And Enron still went bankrupt in a cloud of corruption. Now big Arnie is Governor and it's looking like 1994 in Jannali. By the by those bushfires over there remind me of two movies Chinatown (about LA in a desert, water politics) and Against All Odds (clunky movie with Rachel Ward Jeff Bridges developer subplot to build on ridge topped canyons perfect for ... wildfire.<br /><br />Now the NSW "mischief" has shifted to page 3 of The Australian and how. Sanchez has put a slippery rug under Police Minister Kelly in turn an ALP Right substitute for ex Minister aka Naked Dancer. While Rees's amigo Robertson MP, Rudd backer, cools his heals. This time it may be Premier's Office "mischief" (?) in blowback against rabble Trogs chipping his mini budget. He's tough is this Rees guy. Crash or crash through style, so far so good. 2 years and counting. <br /><br />It could be our own internet election here in NSW sidelining the big press. Crikey might need to open a NSW satellite.<br /><br /> Err just to clarify my ambiguity, I meant democracy is important. Didn’t mean attack on Bernard as a “biased rigther” as such. I just disagree with him about 4 year terms.

There is no doubt many would like to junk the 4 year reform, not least the culture of grievance being promoted by the energy sale big media, but I think they would be wiser to campaign for a constitutional mechanism of a recall like California if they really want to, with say 5-10% of the voters petition.

Even then I think they should watch Enron:Smartest Guys in the Room before they get too excited about a recall - screen jockeys screwed Governor Davis with manufactured brown outs and black outs, gouged outrageous fees and forced a recall, thank you free market! And Enron still went bankrupt in a cloud of corruption. Now big Arnie is Governor and it’s looking like 1994 in Jannali. By the by those bushfires over there remind me of two movies Chinatown (about LA in a desert, water politics) and Against All Odds (clunky movie with Rachel Ward Jeff Bridges developer subplot to build on ridge topped canyons perfect for … wildfire.

Now the NSW “mischief” has shifted to page 3 of The Australian and how. Sanchez has put a slippery rug under Police Minister Kelly in turn an ALP Right substitute for ex Minister aka Naked Dancer. While Rees’s amigo Robertson MP, Rudd backer, cools his heals. This time it may be Premier’s Office “mischief” (?) in blowback against rabble Trogs chipping his mini budget. He’s tough is this Rees guy. Crash or crash through style, so far so good. 2 years and counting.

It could be our own internet election here in NSW sidelining the big press. Crikey might need to open a NSW satellite.

]]> By: The Duke http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/18/nsw-the-premier-state-for-unemployment-dysfunction/#comment-19040 The Duke Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-19040 Watching N.S.W. from afar, as I am, I can say one thing to Bernard Keane. Until the gang of 20 who support Tony Stewart decide that their mate is more important than a ministerial car, a private secretary and an office that has air conditioning and a flat screen t.v. and decide to kick themselves out of office by voting with the libs in a vote of no confidence then the A.L.P. will stay in power...at least until 2011. And going on the opposition, who flounder around during question time with an incompetency that's radiant, there's a good chance they'll get another term.<br /> Watching N.S.W. from afar, as I am, I can say one thing to Bernard Keane. Until the gang of 20 who support Tony Stewart decide that their mate is more important than a ministerial car, a private secretary and an office that has air conditioning and a flat screen t.v. and decide to kick themselves out of office by voting with the libs in a vote of no confidence then the A.L.P. will stay in power…at least until 2011. And going on the opposition, who flounder around during question time with an incompetency that’s radiant, there’s a good chance they’ll get another term.

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