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	<title>Comments on: Mungo: Get off the pot Chris Mitchell</title>
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		<title>By: JamesK</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/17/mungo-get-off-the-pot-chris-mitchell/#comment-19662</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just one further error among the many in this Mungo silliness: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chris Mitchell the editor, writing for first time about this matter over the weekend, essentially saying that whilst he was at Kirribilli House on the evening when the phone call took place, &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. He didn&#039;t breach confidence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. He stands by the version of the story that the paper printed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one further error among the many in this Mungo silliness: </p>
<p>Chris Mitchell the editor, writing for first time about this matter over the weekend, essentially saying that whilst he was at Kirribilli House on the evening when the phone call took place, </p>
<p>1. He didn&#8217;t breach confidence.</p>
<p>2. He stands by the version of the story that the paper printed</p>
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		<title>By: David Sanderson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/17/mungo-get-off-the-pot-chris-mitchell/#comment-19663</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having sat through the Hour of Howard I think one of the most interesting aspects is the presentation of Reith as an inveterate liar - both &#039;back then&#039; and now. Back then it was politically opportune and skin-saving but it is hard to see why he persists now unless he failed to realise that others were going to be more forthcoming than he was prepared to be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the substantial issue he was involved in - waterfront reform - the overall objective of much more efficient ports was worth fighting hard for. But he and Howard gave the battle a harsh class warfare edge that was unnecessary but typical of their divisive style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having sat through the Hour of Howard I think one of the most interesting aspects is the presentation of Reith as an inveterate liar - both &#8216;back then&#8217; and now. Back then it was politically opportune and skin-saving but it is hard to see why he persists now unless he failed to realise that others were going to be more forthcoming than he was prepared to be.</p>
<p>On the substantial issue he was involved in - waterfront reform - the overall objective of much more efficient ports was worth fighting hard for. But he and Howard gave the battle a harsh class warfare edge that was unnecessary but typical of their divisive style.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/17/mungo-get-off-the-pot-chris-mitchell/#comment-19664</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In twenty years time, or less, This so called gaffe will be forgotten. Oz-the land, is not the subject of world speculation or opinion. Logic tells me it wasn&#039;t Rudd who was responsible. The man was a career bureaucrat on the diplomatic scene. This is not the sort of person to leak anything. The Oz newspaper would perform fellatio on anyone whom Rupert Murdoch ordered them to. They would do it on a bed of thorns whilst being bitten by March Flies; then they would beg Rupert to be allowed to it again. So are they likely to lie? Not much.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That the so-called offense was to hurt the worst lame-duck American president in the annals of US history. A man who lies have led to death and misery on a scale to equal Saddam Hussein, seems to be imagined as being the offended party-by the Oz press is lying on a scale as Bush himself would do. The Oz should put up or shut up. Play the tape or pi*s off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In twenty years time, or less, This so called gaffe will be forgotten. Oz-the land, is not the subject of world speculation or opinion. Logic tells me it wasn&#8217;t Rudd who was responsible. The man was a career bureaucrat on the diplomatic scene. This is not the sort of person to leak anything. The Oz newspaper would perform fellatio on anyone whom Rupert Murdoch ordered them to. They would do it on a bed of thorns whilst being bitten by March Flies; then they would beg Rupert to be allowed to it again. So are they likely to lie? Not much.</p>
<p>That the so-called offense was to hurt the worst lame-duck American president in the annals of US history. A man who lies have led to death and misery on a scale to equal Saddam Hussein, seems to be imagined as being the offended party-by the Oz press is lying on a scale as Bush himself would do. The Oz should put up or shut up. Play the tape or pi*s off.</p>
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		<title>By: mike smith</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/17/mungo-get-off-the-pot-chris-mitchell/#comment-19665</link>
		<dc:creator>mike smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IF ten years had passed since we had experienced the Howard Years in the flesh, then *perhaps* it would be worth watching.  But one year?!  The scars are still too fresh.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IF ten years had passed since we had experienced the Howard Years in the flesh, then *perhaps* it would be worth watching.  But one year?!  The scars are still too fresh.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesK</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/17/mungo-get-off-the-pot-chris-mitchell/#comment-19666</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zachary, Rudd and Mitchell are friends. Rudd is godfather to Mitchell&#039;s son. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mitchell has spoken at last. He says essentially:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The story is really a non-event.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But 1. He confirmed that he was there at Kirribilli House but not who else if anyone.&lt;br /&gt;       2. He didn&#039;t breach confidence, i.e. he did not publish a story that was not ok&#039;ed by the source&lt;br /&gt;       3. He stands by the version of the story that the paper printed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now it is firmly established that Bush never said &quot;What&#039;s the G20?&quot; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Therefore The Australian was lied to by this source........and was given the false impression that Rudd had to masterfully persuade Bush who was reluctant, ignorant and incredibly stupid. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Who was this source....... that lied and endeavoured however ineptly to give the impression that Rudd was an adroit statesman dealing with a reluctant idiot in the interests of the &#039;war&#039; against the global financial crisis ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zachary, Rudd and Mitchell are friends. Rudd is godfather to Mitchell&#8217;s son. </p>
<p>Mitchell has spoken at last. He says essentially:</p>
<p>The story is really a non-event.</p>
<p>But 1. He confirmed that he was there at Kirribilli House but not who else if anyone.<br />       2. He didn&#8217;t breach confidence, i.e. he did not publish a story that was not ok&#8217;ed by the source<br />       3. He stands by the version of the story that the paper printed.</p>
<p>Now it is firmly established that Bush never said &#8220;What&#8217;s the G20?&#8221; </p>
<p>Therefore The Australian was lied to by this source&#8230;&#8230;..and was given the false impression that Rudd had to masterfully persuade Bush who was reluctant, ignorant and incredibly stupid. </p>
<p>Who was this source&#8230;&#8230;. that lied and endeavoured however ineptly to give the impression that Rudd was an adroit statesman dealing with a reluctant idiot in the interests of the &#8216;war&#8217; against the global financial crisis ?</p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/17/mungo-get-off-the-pot-chris-mitchell/#comment-19667</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t bother praying for the strength to sit through &#039;The Howard Years&#039;. Give in to the temptation to gib=ve it a miss. We&#039;ve all suffered through more than enough Howard, who&#039;d want to sacrifice a few more hours of life watching it all rehashed? I&#039;ll be spending my viewing time catching up on my shiny new DVDs of Rome Season 2. Much better political drama, much, much more blood and much more exciting skullduggery than Howard and his band of boring cowards, sycophants, and a-selickers could ever provide.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And honestly,  who gives a rat&#039;s rear end about what Mitchell told Franklin about what Rudd said Bush told Rudd. As if we didn&#039;t already know that Bush wouldn&#039;t know which way round to put on his undies if Laura didn&#039;t help him out, let alone understand what a G20 was. The Oz needs to ditch this garbage and find some real news to report, they shouldn&#039;t find that too hard, surely. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t bother praying for the strength to sit through &#8216;The Howard Years&#8217;. Give in to the temptation to gib=ve it a miss. We&#8217;ve all suffered through more than enough Howard, who&#8217;d want to sacrifice a few more hours of life watching it all rehashed? I&#8217;ll be spending my viewing time catching up on my shiny new DVDs of Rome Season 2. Much better political drama, much, much more blood and much more exciting skullduggery than Howard and his band of boring cowards, sycophants, and a-selickers could ever provide.</p>
<p>And honestly,  who gives a rat&#8217;s rear end about what Mitchell told Franklin about what Rudd said Bush told Rudd. As if we didn&#8217;t already know that Bush wouldn&#8217;t know which way round to put on his undies if Laura didn&#8217;t help him out, let alone understand what a G20 was. The Oz needs to ditch this garbage and find some real news to report, they shouldn&#8217;t find that too hard, surely.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesK</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/17/mungo-get-off-the-pot-chris-mitchell/#comment-19668</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typical half-arsed Mungo: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;The facts of the matter are that on October 10 Rudd hosted a dinner at Kirribilli House for a number of guests, one of whom was Mitchell&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No the facts are that Rudd did not host a dinner at Kirribilli House that night.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps if MacCallum had actually read the reports in The Oz that he so ineptly criticises, then he would already know that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical half-arsed Mungo: </p>
<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>The facts of the matter are that on October 10 Rudd hosted a dinner at Kirribilli House for a number of guests, one of whom was Mitchell&#8221;</p>
<p>No the facts are that Rudd did not host a dinner at Kirribilli House that night.</p>
<p>Perhaps if MacCallum had actually read the reports in The Oz that he so ineptly criticises, then he would already know that.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael de Angelos</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/17/mungo-get-off-the-pot-chris-mitchell/#comment-19669</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael de Angelos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the alleged G10 leak has been most amusing as it has at least given The Man Who Would be King something to fume about in Parliament as lets face it, he has little else to say. Not an alternative policy-just attacks, so any little titbit helps. In a way it&#039;s like the Australian has created it&#039;s own news story by first claiming it&#039;s true and then screechng about it non-stop and gives your famous &#039;dancing bears&quot; a reason to live, afterall, with Howard no longer there the future looks rather bleak for most of them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fact that the Aussie public couldn&#039;t give the slightest toss about George W.Bush or his sensibilities and can&#039;t wait to see the back of him as the majority of Yanks think likewise, it&#039;s clear the Aussie media is losing the plot. Time for them to grow up and have a look at just why their circulations are plunging. Perhaps they might like to consider the quality of their content but I suppsoe that&#039;s just wishful thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the alleged G10 leak has been most amusing as it has at least given The Man Who Would be King something to fume about in Parliament as lets face it, he has little else to say. Not an alternative policy-just attacks, so any little titbit helps. In a way it&#8217;s like the Australian has created it&#8217;s own news story by first claiming it&#8217;s true and then screechng about it non-stop and gives your famous &#8216;dancing bears&#8221; a reason to live, afterall, with Howard no longer there the future looks rather bleak for most of them.</p>
<p>The fact that the Aussie public couldn&#8217;t give the slightest toss about George W.Bush or his sensibilities and can&#8217;t wait to see the back of him as the majority of Yanks think likewise, it&#8217;s clear the Aussie media is losing the plot. Time for them to grow up and have a look at just why their circulations are plunging. Perhaps they might like to consider the quality of their content but I suppsoe that&#8217;s just wishful thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/17/mungo-get-off-the-pot-chris-mitchell/#comment-19670</link>
		<dc:creator>Zachary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still can&#039;t work out why the PM would want to have Mitchell present at any social gathering he hosted. The man is a well known critic of Rudd and Labor, employs a bunch of lame attack dogs, Albrechtsen, Shanahan etc to throw his muck and did as much as any editor to try and steer the electorate away from voting Labor at the last election. If this mornings poll tells us anything the public dont give a stuff about the bloody phone call and its time the media, the Opposition and some big noting blog contributors got the message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still can&#8217;t work out why the PM would want to have Mitchell present at any social gathering he hosted. The man is a well known critic of Rudd and Labor, employs a bunch of lame attack dogs, Albrechtsen, Shanahan etc to throw his muck and did as much as any editor to try and steer the electorate away from voting Labor at the last election. If this mornings poll tells us anything the public dont give a stuff about the bloody phone call and its time the media, the Opposition and some big noting blog contributors got the message.</p>
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