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	<title>Comments on: Rundle08: Sailing into the harbour of grace</title>
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		<title>By: David Sanderson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/07/rundle08-sailing-into-the-harbour-of-grace/#comment-15067</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess its gonna be difficult for Guy to come back to Australia. Far too prosaic. Hearing Rudd going on about how &quot;its gonna be ugly, its gonna be tough&quot; kind of lacks an inspirational afterglow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess its gonna be difficult for Guy to come back to Australia. Far too prosaic. Hearing Rudd going on about how &#8220;its gonna be ugly, its gonna be tough&#8221; kind of lacks an inspirational afterglow.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom McLoughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/07/rundle08-sailing-into-the-harbour-of-grace/#comment-15068</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom McLoughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like nsw pol Della Bosca I&#039;m always trying to improve, and now I  have read the wiki on Bill Ayers (small c communist, doesn&#039;t like Mao or Lenin, anti Vietnam war, statue bomber, seriously idealistic and not very Gandhi just like most of El Norte) not just an obscure reference in Dilbert anymore. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now I also know about Kool Aid thanks to Yahoo!7 Answers (!) but I will say the Jonestown explanation is alot more &#039;fun&#039; at least till the nausea kicks in.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks Guy, have to say I only read you mainly at the end, and I really liked this one too. Nothing personal about the earlier stuff just not that interested in the gun totin nut case that is the USA, too oft referred to as America as if Mexico, Central and South i.e. 250M others are not Americans. El Norte would be as appropriate. But yes it is Modern Rome and I get it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have really been surprised and enjoyed the fact I watched about 80 hours of West Wing non stop and get most of the parallels and Sorkin scripting with help of Clinton presser etc running from 1999 onward. I notice too that Moira Kelly (series 1, and gorgeous) is in the move about Chaplin with star studded cast (2004).  I notice the Toby Ziggler (Tubby Stickler) actor was in Tom Selleck vehicle in the local DVD again playing a bureaucratic wise ass this time lacking ideals.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rahm as lying josher eh? Former ballet dancer says the ABC tv last night. Dual citizen, eh? Well it&#039;s cheaper than tthe fifth fleet to subsidise Israel as tricky Dicky would say. And did anyone notice Obama&#039;s own Graham Freudenberg moments with references to a puppy pitch to the Republican voters - will he indeed call it Checkers? Or how &quot;tearing down the world&quot; was a groan reference to World Trade Centre. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He does talk in pictures does this new pres elect aka The Man. Yeah, feeling the grace here too. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like nsw pol Della Bosca I&#8217;m always trying to improve, and now I  have read the wiki on Bill Ayers (small c communist, doesn&#8217;t like Mao or Lenin, anti Vietnam war, statue bomber, seriously idealistic and not very Gandhi just like most of El Norte) not just an obscure reference in Dilbert anymore. </p>
<p>Now I also know about Kool Aid thanks to Yahoo!7 Answers (!) but I will say the Jonestown explanation is alot more &#8216;fun&#8217; at least till the nausea kicks in.</p>
<p>Thanks Guy, have to say I only read you mainly at the end, and I really liked this one too. Nothing personal about the earlier stuff just not that interested in the gun totin nut case that is the USA, too oft referred to as America as if Mexico, Central and South i.e. 250M others are not Americans. El Norte would be as appropriate. But yes it is Modern Rome and I get it.</p>
<p>Have really been surprised and enjoyed the fact I watched about 80 hours of West Wing non stop and get most of the parallels and Sorkin scripting with help of Clinton presser etc running from 1999 onward. I notice too that Moira Kelly (series 1, and gorgeous) is in the move about Chaplin with star studded cast (2004).  I notice the Toby Ziggler (Tubby Stickler) actor was in Tom Selleck vehicle in the local DVD again playing a bureaucratic wise ass this time lacking ideals.</p>
<p>Rahm as lying josher eh? Former ballet dancer says the ABC tv last night. Dual citizen, eh? Well it&#8217;s cheaper than tthe fifth fleet to subsidise Israel as tricky Dicky would say. And did anyone notice Obama&#8217;s own Graham Freudenberg moments with references to a puppy pitch to the Republican voters - will he indeed call it Checkers? Or how &#8220;tearing down the world&#8221; was a groan reference to World Trade Centre. </p>
<p>He does talk in pictures does this new pres elect aka The Man. Yeah, feeling the grace here too.</p>
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		<title>By: mxadness</title>
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		<dc:creator>mxadness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Emanuel choice is great. It shows that Obama means business. It shows that Obama is done with words, and is readying his administration for action.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are some people out there who give off the distinct impression that they think Obama is a lightweight, a push over -- but I think they are very wrong. He&#039;s going to bang heads together, and make a lot of changes in his administration. I probably won&#039;t agree with all of those decisions -- either will you -- but god damn it, he&#039;ll be able to back up his decisions with a well reasoned argument. Which is more than the current incompetent president can manage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Emanuel choice is great. It shows that Obama means business. It shows that Obama is done with words, and is readying his administration for action.</p>
<p>There are some people out there who give off the distinct impression that they think Obama is a lightweight, a push over&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;but I think they are very wrong. He&#8217;s going to bang heads together, and make a lot of changes in his administration. I probably won&#8217;t agree with all of those decisions&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;either will you&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;but god damn it, he&#8217;ll be able to back up his decisions with a well reasoned argument. Which is more than the current incompetent president can manage.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/11/07/rundle08-sailing-into-the-harbour-of-grace/#comment-15070</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My God - a jug of KOOL AID has been consumed in no short order. Hail to the chief.</description>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey The Duke&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many thanks for the fact check. Tom Wolfe ...of course. I thought I was skating on thin ice there, but you got my drift. But thanks for the friendly heads up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and Yes Guy, don&#039;t start shooting at the TV screen. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey The Duke</p>
<p>Many thanks for the fact check. Tom Wolfe &#8230;of course. I thought I was skating on thin ice there, but you got my drift. But thanks for the friendly heads up.</p>
<p>and Yes Guy, don&#8217;t start shooting at the TV screen. </p>
<p>cheers</p>
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		<title>By: The Duke</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ve held my tongue every time someone makes the same comment but this time I must act. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &quot;Kool aid&quot; line is, in fact, a misnomer. It is in fact meant to be &quot;Drinking the Flavor-Aid&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It stems from the mass suicide cult of Jonestown (no, not the people who read the Masters book). The so-called Reverend Jim Jones (think a slightly less nerdy David Koresh) gave 900 odd of his followers Cyanide laced Flavor-Aid to commit suicide with. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Kool-Aid reference is a mistake caused by the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test which was a book by Tom Wolfe about a group of people in a day-glo bus who travel across America while stoned. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That said, Guy Rundle seems burnt out. That piece read a bit like Hunter Thompson leaving Las Vegas. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If he picks up a prostitute to watch him drink himself to death, I would not be surprised. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve held my tongue every time someone makes the same comment but this time I must act. </p>
<p>The &#8220;Kool aid&#8221; line is, in fact, a misnomer. It is in fact meant to be &#8220;Drinking the Flavor-Aid&#8221;</p>
<p>It stems from the mass suicide cult of Jonestown (no, not the people who read the Masters book). The so-called Reverend Jim Jones (think a slightly less nerdy David Koresh) gave 900 odd of his followers Cyanide laced Flavor-Aid to commit suicide with. </p>
<p>The Kool-Aid reference is a mistake caused by the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test which was a book by Tom Wolfe about a group of people in a day-glo bus who travel across America while stoned. </p>
<p>That said, Guy Rundle seems burnt out. That piece read a bit like Hunter Thompson leaving Las Vegas. </p>
<p>If he picks up a prostitute to watch him drink himself to death, I would not be surprised. </p>
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