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	<title>Comments on: Hilton case reveals planning law as a plaything of the wealthy</title>
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		<title>By: Tom McLoughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/31/hilton-case-reveals-planning-law-as-a-plaything-of-the-wealthy/#comment-24645</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom McLoughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NSW is similarly a game of big bucks. Highly defensive security for costs orders can be sought by a developer, sometimes using the profits from an illegal development - especially in the precincts of an apathetic or brown council - to fund their legal defense demanding say $90K up front from a public interest litigant in one case I know of.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In that case not only was the prohibitve order for security bond made before the substantive issues could be heard, but then the costs of losing the argument over whether to pay the bond led to an appeal and another costs order and then 2 years later bankruptcy of public interest litigant. And the substantive issues of illegality were never looked at by the LEC in NSW.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is this what was intended by the framers of the 1979 legislation in the wake of the green bans in NSW and election of an ALP Wran Govt, after the corrupt Askin? After echoes of corruption of Bjelke Peterson up North bulldozing heritage? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You have a look at the tenor of s.39 (informality of proceedings) and s.63 (agent instead of a lawyer permitted) of the Land &amp; Environment Court Act 1979 in NSW, and open standing provisions of s.123 of the principal EP&amp;A Act in NSW. These are virtually a dead letter now due to costs orders.  I submit that wasn&#039;t the intent of the legislators but it&#039;s a cosy business and all but a closed shop in my view.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was at the registry in Sydney 2 weeks back and a developer&#039;s lawyer asked me how I could be filing for my client at risk of costs. I said well - he&#039;s already bankrupt, and I&#039;m just his agent. And a pensioner who can avoid filing fees at the discretion of the Registrar.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But that&#039;s not how it&#039;s supposed to be and bankruptcy brings its own Olympic hurdles to vault.  Then perhaps the most corrosive thing in the whole situation is that when by some miracle there is a public interest victor more often than not the ALP govt up until recently at least was very willing and ready to repeal the decision by legislation. Nasty. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NSW is similarly a game of big bucks. Highly defensive security for costs orders can be sought by a developer, sometimes using the profits from an illegal development - especially in the precincts of an apathetic or brown council - to fund their legal defense demanding say $90K up front from a public interest litigant in one case I know of.</p>
<p>In that case not only was the prohibitve order for security bond made before the substantive issues could be heard, but then the costs of losing the argument over whether to pay the bond led to an appeal and another costs order and then 2 years later bankruptcy of public interest litigant. And the substantive issues of illegality were never looked at by the LEC in NSW.</p>
<p>Is this what was intended by the framers of the 1979 legislation in the wake of the green bans in NSW and election of an ALP Wran Govt, after the corrupt Askin? After echoes of corruption of Bjelke Peterson up North bulldozing heritage? </p>
<p>You have a look at the tenor of s.39 (informality of proceedings) and s.63 (agent instead of a lawyer permitted) of the Land &#038; Environment Court Act 1979 in NSW, and open standing provisions of s.123 of the principal EP&#038;A Act in NSW. These are virtually a dead letter now due to costs orders.  I submit that wasn&#8217;t the intent of the legislators but it&#8217;s a cosy business and all but a closed shop in my view.</p>
<p>I was at the registry in Sydney 2 weeks back and a developer&#8217;s lawyer asked me how I could be filing for my client at risk of costs. I said well - he&#8217;s already bankrupt, and I&#8217;m just his agent. And a pensioner who can avoid filing fees at the discretion of the Registrar.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s not how it&#8217;s supposed to be and bankruptcy brings its own Olympic hurdles to vault.  Then perhaps the most corrosive thing in the whole situation is that when by some miracle there is a public interest victor more often than not the ALP govt up until recently at least was very willing and ready to repeal the decision by legislation. Nasty.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/31/hilton-case-reveals-planning-law-as-a-plaything-of-the-wealthy/#comment-24646</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To assume &#039;big money&#039; is necessary to win any points  could smother anyone&#039;s spirit. I admit that a mega-site like the Hilton proposal would be daunting, but for people who feel the system is greater than &#039;the people&#039; please don&#039;t despair. As a particularly bloody-minded, and battle-hardened agitator I can say all is not lost.&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s just that few people bother to read the &#039;Yellow Planning Notice&#039; that goes up on a proposed development site. This is the battle call, but few seem to hear it-whether it be the Hilton, or a proposal to construct eight four-story  units in the place where one home stood in a small back street of Prahran, this is the time to get busy. This is the stage to get in early and get in often. Try to get the Council in on your side. Wear out a couple of pairs of shoes in order to get all those signatures. Go into any nightclubs in the area to get signatures on petitions. I even used to trawl the knocking shops. The greater the number of people living in the area, the more signatures there are. A friend of mine volunteered to baby sit two kids in order to get eight signatures. Please understand nothing is impossible. Yeah, it&#039;s hard work. So is everything these days.&lt;br /&gt;If people like Genghiz Khan and Napoleon and Simon Bolivar can buck the system, so can the individual resident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To assume &#8216;big money&#8217; is necessary to win any points  could smother anyone&#8217;s spirit. I admit that a mega-site like the Hilton proposal would be daunting, but for people who feel the system is greater than &#8216;the people&#8217; please don&#8217;t despair. As a particularly bloody-minded, and battle-hardened agitator I can say all is not lost.<br />It&#8217;s just that few people bother to read the &#8216;Yellow Planning Notice&#8217; that goes up on a proposed development site. This is the battle call, but few seem to hear it-whether it be the Hilton, or a proposal to construct eight four-story  units in the place where one home stood in a small back street of Prahran, this is the time to get busy. This is the stage to get in early and get in often. Try to get the Council in on your side. Wear out a couple of pairs of shoes in order to get all those signatures. Go into any nightclubs in the area to get signatures on petitions. I even used to trawl the knocking shops. The greater the number of people living in the area, the more signatures there are. A friend of mine volunteered to baby sit two kids in order to get eight signatures. Please understand nothing is impossible. Yeah, it&#8217;s hard work. So is everything these days.<br />If people like Genghiz Khan and Napoleon and Simon Bolivar can buck the system, so can the individual resident.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/31/hilton-case-reveals-planning-law-as-a-plaything-of-the-wealthy/#comment-24647</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS: I think I can find my way to VCAT wearing a blindfold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS: I think I can find my way to VCAT wearing a blindfold.</p>
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