Comments on: Rudd the shock jock — whatever happened to Bonhoeffer? http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/06/rudd-the-shock-jock-whatever-happened-to-bonhoeffer/ now with extra source Sun, 12 Feb 2012 07:14:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Lucy http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/06/rudd-the-shock-jock-whatever-happened-to-bonhoeffer/#comment-2563 Lucy Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-2563 The death penalty reversal is truly appalling. Rudd has, in this instance, shown himself an absolute coward in the face of predictable headlines: HEARTLESS PM DEFENDS CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY, RUDD SUPPORTS AUSSIE KILLING TERRORISTS, that kind of thing. A true statesman is obligated to suck it up and keep a consistent stance, no matter what the Daily Ttelegraph says. If the death penalty is wrong, it's always wrong. Rudd knows that and his stance is utterly hypocritical. The death penalty reversal is truly appalling. Rudd has, in this instance, shown himself an absolute coward in the face of predictable headlines: HEARTLESS PM DEFENDS CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY, RUDD SUPPORTS AUSSIE KILLING TERRORISTS, that kind of thing. A true statesman is obligated to suck it up and keep a consistent stance, no matter what the Daily Ttelegraph says. If the death penalty is wrong, it’s always wrong. Rudd knows that and his stance is utterly hypocritical.

]]> By: James http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/06/rudd-the-shock-jock-whatever-happened-to-bonhoeffer/#comment-2564 James Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-2564 I am grateful to Rudd for ridding us of Howard and saying sorry. His comments on the execution of the bombers just confirms my fear that he has little more to offer - we're still in Iraq, still believers in victory in Afghanistan, totally committed to the American alliance, IR that favours the bosses, no real changes in education and committed to making sure that banks can make squillions in their sheltered workshops. <br /><br />Previous Labor leaders were consistent in their condemnation of apartheid. Rudd led parliament in congratulating that other apartheid state, Israel on its 60th anniversary..<br /><br />It's the Greens for me from now on - Rudd gives me little choice. I am grateful to Rudd for ridding us of Howard and saying sorry. His comments on the execution of the bombers just confirms my fear that he has little more to offer - we’re still in Iraq, still believers in victory in Afghanistan, totally committed to the American alliance, IR that favours the bosses, no real changes in education and committed to making sure that banks can make squillions in their sheltered workshops.

Previous Labor leaders were consistent in their condemnation of apartheid. Rudd led parliament in congratulating that other apartheid state, Israel on its 60th anniversary..

It’s the Greens for me from now on - Rudd gives me little choice.

]]> By: Mirek http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/06/rudd-the-shock-jock-whatever-happened-to-bonhoeffer/#comment-2565 Mirek Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-2565 This confirms, on many levels the utter hypocrisy of the present Government, marching, if not exceeding that meted out by the hated and appalling Howard regime. This illustrates the complete subordination of principle to political expediency. As James points out, the Greens are the only parliamentary party who have consistently upheld their principles, be it on Iraq, Afghanistan, or the global warming.<br />. This confirms, on many levels the utter hypocrisy of the present Government, marching, if not exceeding that meted out by the hated and appalling Howard regime. This illustrates the complete subordination of principle to political expediency. As James points out, the Greens are the only parliamentary party who have consistently upheld their principles, be it on Iraq, Afghanistan, or the global warming.
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]]> By: Dave Liberts http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/06/rudd-the-shock-jock-whatever-happened-to-bonhoeffer/#comment-2566 Dave Liberts Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-2566 "Yet we now have an inquiry underway -- and Youth Minister Kate Ellis seems to have taken complete leave of her senses.<br /><br />"Let's let kids be kids," she says.<br /><br />"When was it decided that we wanted to step on in and snatch away that innocence before it happens naturally."<br /><br />What does that even mean? Does Ellis know? Does anyone?"<br /><br />Great question. I'm envisaging a scene directly out of Yes Minister. Minister doesn't know what to say, says something that means nothing but must be harmless because the PM said it a couple of months back, Department Secretary walks in and congratulates Minister for being so very, very courageous. Letting kids be kids would decimate our gold medal tally - as we saw recently, if it weren't for teenage girls having to spend vast amounts of their childhoods training in swimming pools rather than 'just being kids', we don't win much. Departmental Secretary knows how much this would damage his/her budget. Minister looks embarrassed and hopes it will all blow over soon..... “Yet we now have an inquiry underway — and Youth Minister Kate Ellis seems to have taken complete leave of her senses.

“Let’s let kids be kids,” she says.

“When was it decided that we wanted to step on in and snatch away that innocence before it happens naturally.”

What does that even mean? Does Ellis know? Does anyone?”

Great question. I’m envisaging a scene directly out of Yes Minister. Minister doesn’t know what to say, says something that means nothing but must be harmless because the PM said it a couple of months back, Department Secretary walks in and congratulates Minister for being so very, very courageous. Letting kids be kids would decimate our gold medal tally - as we saw recently, if it weren’t for teenage girls having to spend vast amounts of their childhoods training in swimming pools rather than ‘just being kids’, we don’t win much. Departmental Secretary knows how much this would damage his/her budget. Minister looks embarrassed and hopes it will all blow over soon…..

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