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	<title>Comments on: Kohler: What is a depression, and are we headed into one?</title>
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		<title>By: Andrew D</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/03/kohler-what-is-a-depression-and-are-we-headed-into-one/#comment-20452</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew D</dc:creator>
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		<description>In determining where Australia will go, perhaps it is best to look at one macro long term trend.  Our GDP is 70% driven by Consumer spending.  Consumers have been having a whale of a time as our household debt to disposable income has climbed from 50 to 150% in the last 20 years – facilitated by retail banks and consumer finance companies through marketing “debt is good” and IT enablement “we can actually track all of you”.&lt;br /&gt;Now we have reached the Consumer debt barrier.  Let us assume that Consumer spending growth is zero than our GDP growth is down to 1% instead of 3%, and with a population growth of 1% that means zero GDP per capita growth for the foreseeable future.&lt;br /&gt;An alternative, really dire, scenario is that 50% of all Consumers spending has been driven by GROWTH in debt.  Take away the debt growth factor and 70 units become 35 units, with a total GDP of 65 units – a reduction of 35% in overall GDP.  Let’s say a “depression” of 13% per annum for three years and then 10-15 years of a Japanese style sideways economy.&lt;br /&gt;On that note, it is late Friday night and it’s time to go to the pub (the classic Aussie solution to most problems) and discuss Garnaut!!  Haveagoodweekend.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In determining where Australia will go, perhaps it is best to look at one macro long term trend.  Our GDP is 70% driven by Consumer spending.  Consumers have been having a whale of a time as our household debt to disposable income has climbed from 50 to 150% in the last 20 years – facilitated by retail banks and consumer finance companies through marketing “debt is good” and IT enablement “we can actually track all of you”.<br />Now we have reached the Consumer debt barrier.  Let us assume that Consumer spending growth is zero than our GDP growth is down to 1% instead of 3%, and with a population growth of 1% that means zero GDP per capita growth for the foreseeable future.<br />An alternative, really dire, scenario is that 50% of all Consumers spending has been driven by GROWTH in debt.  Take away the debt growth factor and 70 units become 35 units, with a total GDP of 65 units – a reduction of 35% in overall GDP.  Let’s say a “depression” of 13% per annum for three years and then 10-15 years of a Japanese style sideways economy.<br />On that note, it is late Friday night and it’s time to go to the pub (the classic Aussie solution to most problems) and discuss Garnaut!!  Haveagoodweekend.</p>
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