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		<title>By: Bernard Keane</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/03/do-stay-at-home-mums-deserve-special-treatment/#comment-345</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard Keane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who think my views reflect an absence of parental experience, alas, I have a family.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There seems to be a theme in the anti- comments here that you&#039;re either properly looking after your kids by staying at home or you&#039;re in the workforce and anyone who wants more women in the workforce is therefore ignoring The Kids and saying parenting is not real work. The figures suggest, in fact, that most families manage both parenting and paid employment. Again, the issue here is whether we provide incentives for mothers to remain at home or encourage them to work - at whatever level is appropriate given the age of their children and their family circumstances.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I suspect I can say that till I&#039;m blue in the face and parenting fundamentalists will still complain I&#039;m attacking at-home mothers.  Stay at home mothers are great. I just don&#039;t believe in giving them even more money than they get now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who think my views reflect an absence of parental experience, alas, I have a family.</p>
<p>There seems to be a theme in the anti- comments here that you&#8217;re either properly looking after your kids by staying at home or you&#8217;re in the workforce and anyone who wants more women in the workforce is therefore ignoring The Kids and saying parenting is not real work. The figures suggest, in fact, that most families manage both parenting and paid employment. Again, the issue here is whether we provide incentives for mothers to remain at home or encourage them to work - at whatever level is appropriate given the age of their children and their family circumstances.  </p>
<p>But I suspect I can say that till I&#8217;m blue in the face and parenting fundamentalists will still complain I&#8217;m attacking at-home mothers.  Stay at home mothers are great. I just don&#8217;t believe in giving them even more money than they get now.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/03/do-stay-at-home-mums-deserve-special-treatment/#comment-346</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My partner is a stay-at-home mum and would love to work but she can&#039;t. Why? Because she&#039;d have to wait months to get our son into childcare.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bernard, you ask why state-at-home mums should be rewarded with paid maternity leave equivalent to working mums. Are they being rewarded? Aren&#039;t they just being treated equally?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A better question to ask is why should stay-at-home mums be punished with no paid maternity leave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My partner is a stay-at-home mum and would love to work but she can&#8217;t. Why? Because she&#8217;d have to wait months to get our son into childcare.</p>
<p>Bernard, you ask why state-at-home mums should be rewarded with paid maternity leave equivalent to working mums. Are they being rewarded? Aren&#8217;t they just being treated equally?</p>
<p>A better question to ask is why should stay-at-home mums be punished with no paid maternity leave.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Keane</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/03/do-stay-at-home-mums-deserve-special-treatment/#comment-347</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard Keane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the &quot;begetting&quot;, JJ Jeans. Very biblical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the &#8220;begetting&#8221;, JJ Jeans. Very biblical.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/03/do-stay-at-home-mums-deserve-special-treatment/#comment-348</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn’t parenthood an option on lifestyle? It’s a role and responsibility you take on by choice. It’s not mandatory to breed. And I&#039;ve never understood why we need to support parents beyond a basic means-tested child allowance, the education system, health and the myriad of child-related care, services and programs. How you parent is again optional. Stay-at-home, balance parenting and the workplace or share parenting with family, extended family and friends or paid professionals. It’s a personal choice on how you manage the outcomes of your decision. If I want further education I pay for it or merit-based study or work off an internship. In other words I forfeit to achieve or gain. Parenting as a way of life not all of us choose but all of us appear to have to subsidise.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn’t parenthood an option on lifestyle? It’s a role and responsibility you take on by choice. It’s not mandatory to breed. And I&#8217;ve never understood why we need to support parents beyond a basic means-tested child allowance, the education system, health and the myriad of child-related care, services and programs. How you parent is again optional. Stay-at-home, balance parenting and the workplace or share parenting with family, extended family and friends or paid professionals. It’s a personal choice on how you manage the outcomes of your decision. If I want further education I pay for it or merit-based study or work off an internship. In other words I forfeit to achieve or gain. Parenting as a way of life not all of us choose but all of us appear to have to subsidise.</p>
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		<title>By: John James # 2</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/03/do-stay-at-home-mums-deserve-special-treatment/#comment-349</link>
		<dc:creator>John James # 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cathy, I&#039;m sorry you can&#039;t see the purpose in debate on this topic. You should speak to Bernard about why he initiated the debate, but I think your economic analysis is full of holes, as is your sense of social equity. I am intrigued by the theme that underpins your posting, ie.that parents, usually mothers, who are at home, are not in &quot;the workforce&quot; I suppose you mean that their activity makes no contribution to productivity and/or they are not remunerated for their work. This is so shortsighted! The begetting, raising and education of children  is a priceless and essential contribution to the country&#039;s collective wealth. To-days kids are tomorrows teachers, plumbers, doctors, journalists, etc. Numerous studies have &#039;costed&quot; the work done by stay-at-home parents in the millions of dollars. &lt;br /&gt;So this is not a debate about the merits of deciding to have a child but a debate about the the contribution parents working ( usually very hard! ) at home are making to the society of which they are members and why they are to be treated differently to parents working outside the home.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cathy, I&#8217;m sorry you can&#8217;t see the purpose in debate on this topic. You should speak to Bernard about why he initiated the debate, but I think your economic analysis is full of holes, as is your sense of social equity. I am intrigued by the theme that underpins your posting, ie.that parents, usually mothers, who are at home, are not in &#8220;the workforce&#8221; I suppose you mean that their activity makes no contribution to productivity and/or they are not remunerated for their work. This is so shortsighted! The begetting, raising and education of children  is a priceless and essential contribution to the country&#8217;s collective wealth. To-days kids are tomorrows teachers, plumbers, doctors, journalists, etc. Numerous studies have &#8216;costed&#8221; the work done by stay-at-home parents in the millions of dollars. <br />So this is not a debate about the merits of deciding to have a child but a debate about the the contribution parents working ( usually very hard! ) at home are making to the society of which they are members and why they are to be treated differently to parents working outside the home.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Keane</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/03/do-stay-at-home-mums-deserve-special-treatment/#comment-350</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard Keane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You MAY complain about the confusion of singular and plural in my previous comment, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You MAY complain about the confusion of singular and plural in my previous comment, however.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Walker</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/03/do-stay-at-home-mums-deserve-special-treatment/#comment-351</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t about money. It&#039;s not about the economy. It&#039;s about respect. It&#039;s amazing how many people in our modern materialistic society disparage stay-at-home parents (OK, most are mums) as &#039;not paying tax/not contributing to the economy&#039;. Several talkback callers (admittedly not our best and brightest) have been using this line in the past couple of days. Instead of calling daytime radio shows, don&#039;t these people have jobs to do? Ever spent even a day looking after young kids? I&#039;d take the paid tax-paying employment every time. Stay-at-home mums do a bloody difficult, valuable job (yes, job). It&#039;s also interesting to note Julia Gillard has changed her views on the stay-at-homers since the May budget. Beware the wrath of the stay-at-home mums, Bernard. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.crikey.com.au/Budget-08/20080516-Labor-ignore-stay-at-home-mums.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t about money. It&#8217;s not about the economy. It&#8217;s about respect. It&#8217;s amazing how many people in our modern materialistic society disparage stay-at-home parents (OK, most are mums) as &#8216;not paying tax/not contributing to the economy&#8217;. Several talkback callers (admittedly not our best and brightest) have been using this line in the past couple of days. Instead of calling daytime radio shows, don&#8217;t these people have jobs to do? Ever spent even a day looking after young kids? I&#8217;d take the paid tax-paying employment every time. Stay-at-home mums do a bloody difficult, valuable job (yes, job). It&#8217;s also interesting to note Julia Gillard has changed her views on the stay-at-homers since the May budget. Beware the wrath of the stay-at-home mums, Bernard. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crikey.com.au/Budget-08/20080516-Labor-ignore-stay-at-home-mums.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.crikey.com.au/Budget-08/20080516-Labor-ignore-stay-at-home-mums.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: arty</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/03/do-stay-at-home-mums-deserve-special-treatment/#comment-352</link>
		<dc:creator>arty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who will pay the superannuation levy for the stay-at-home mums?&lt;br /&gt;Will the working partner be assumed to be her employer?&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who will pay the superannuation levy for the stay-at-home mums?<br />Will the working partner be assumed to be her employer?</p>
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		<title>By: Stay-at-home feminist</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/03/do-stay-at-home-mums-deserve-special-treatment/#comment-353</link>
		<dc:creator>Stay-at-home feminist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bernard I challenge you to come to my house and care for my children.&lt;br /&gt;Eva what ever happened to women supporting women? &lt;br /&gt;As a mother I clearly have a vested interest.  As someone who consciously chose to stay at home even greater interest.  As a humanitarian I believe we all have an interest in raising our future. At the moment the decision to stay at home really is a no-brainer.  I can fight to reclaim a job to my Post-Graduate level of education that recognises my family commitment (try that one) or I can work in the poorly paid but flexible retail/hospitality industry. I can try and find quality childcare (again not an easy task).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whilst at home caring for my children I make muffins, but I also work as a volunteer in the community sector (ironically working to improve policy affecting women and children).  I find my unpaid work very challenging (sometimes days I would gladly walk-out).  I know however that on balance I am doing the best thing for everyone concerned (including me).  Until there is a considerable culture shift (that acknowledges the pressure of the unpaid-paid work juggle and the value of working mothers) educated women will continue to work well below their capacity.&lt;br /&gt;Muffins and nappy changing muddles along with writing the odd grant application or policy document. For me raising our future and helping improve our community (as a volunteer) beats the hell out of &#039;settling&#039; for a dodgy but flexible job, putting up with substandard child care and living on junk food because I was too damn tired.&lt;br /&gt;I would love to combine my unpaid/paid work, but entrenched misogyny prevents this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bernard I challenge you to come to my house and care for my children.<br />Eva what ever happened to women supporting women? <br />As a mother I clearly have a vested interest.  As someone who consciously chose to stay at home even greater interest.  As a humanitarian I believe we all have an interest in raising our future. At the moment the decision to stay at home really is a no-brainer.  I can fight to reclaim a job to my Post-Graduate level of education that recognises my family commitment (try that one) or I can work in the poorly paid but flexible retail/hospitality industry. I can try and find quality childcare (again not an easy task).</p>
<p>Whilst at home caring for my children I make muffins, but I also work as a volunteer in the community sector (ironically working to improve policy affecting women and children).  I find my unpaid work very challenging (sometimes days I would gladly walk-out).  I know however that on balance I am doing the best thing for everyone concerned (including me).  Until there is a considerable culture shift (that acknowledges the pressure of the unpaid-paid work juggle and the value of working mothers) educated women will continue to work well below their capacity.<br />Muffins and nappy changing muddles along with writing the odd grant application or policy document. For me raising our future and helping improve our community (as a volunteer) beats the hell out of &#8216;settling&#8217; for a dodgy but flexible job, putting up with substandard child care and living on junk food because I was too damn tired.<br />I would love to combine my unpaid/paid work, but entrenched misogyny prevents this.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/03/do-stay-at-home-mums-deserve-special-treatment/#comment-354</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bernard Keane: Precisely! How can any economy  underwrite every lobby group that whines for money? As for Tony Abbott; he wouldn&#039;t know his own cock if he fell on it. At the rate these groups get assistance we will arrive, one day in the future, at a featureless landscape, barren, dry and withered. There will be people living in small groups, underground. Like the miners at Cooper Peady. The first thing a traveller from a distant galaxy will come across will be an ancient farmer, cap in hand, asking for money to alleviate the drought, and blaming the previous government. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I fail to see how you arrive at the idea of for ever importing skilled workers. as being a good idea. Why can&#039;t we produce them ourselves? Some day, in the future, when you appreciate that Melbourne and Sydney have a population of 9 million people- making Victoria a coast to coast housing estate-I hope you will arrive at the conclusion that the term Populate and Perish had some merit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bernard Keane: Precisely! How can any economy  underwrite every lobby group that whines for money? As for Tony Abbott; he wouldn&#8217;t know his own cock if he fell on it. At the rate these groups get assistance we will arrive, one day in the future, at a featureless landscape, barren, dry and withered. There will be people living in small groups, underground. Like the miners at Cooper Peady. The first thing a traveller from a distant galaxy will come across will be an ancient farmer, cap in hand, asking for money to alleviate the drought, and blaming the previous government. </p>
<p>I fail to see how you arrive at the idea of for ever importing skilled workers. as being a good idea. Why can&#8217;t we produce them ourselves? Some day, in the future, when you appreciate that Melbourne and Sydney have a population of 9 million people- making Victoria a coast to coast housing estate-I hope you will arrive at the conclusion that the term Populate and Perish had some merit.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/03/do-stay-at-home-mums-deserve-special-treatment/#comment-355</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John J - its got nothing to do with motherhood being denigrated nor parenthood. Individuals choose a particular lifestyle to suit themselves or a partner and jointly or individually work to sustain that lifestyle. If you don&#039;t join the workforce it adjusts to supply and demand. According to IR experts the workplace expands and contracts for all sorts of reasons. No one is inferring stay at home parents, male or female are anything more than that. There are no badges for being a parent or being childless. We have a workforce of men and women - their sexual productivity has no bearing on their workplace productivity. I can&#039;t see the purpose of debate on this topic???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John J - its got nothing to do with motherhood being denigrated nor parenthood. Individuals choose a particular lifestyle to suit themselves or a partner and jointly or individually work to sustain that lifestyle. If you don&#8217;t join the workforce it adjusts to supply and demand. According to IR experts the workplace expands and contracts for all sorts of reasons. No one is inferring stay at home parents, male or female are anything more than that. There are no badges for being a parent or being childless. We have a workforce of men and women - their sexual productivity has no bearing on their workplace productivity. I can&#8217;t see the purpose of debate on this topic???</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Keane</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/03/do-stay-at-home-mums-deserve-special-treatment/#comment-356</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard Keane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this comment appears twice I&#039;ll be most unhappy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Two things:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. I don&#039;t write the headlines, as I&#039;ve explained previously, and I too complained about the superfluous apostrophe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. I don&#039;t recall urging that all mothers work full-time. The definition of employment is 1 hour a week. Between that and full-time there&#039;s a variety of possible balances between employment and childcare by both parents and external providers.  All of them are better than a stay-at-home mothers whose skills atrophy while the economy cries out for workers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this comment appears twice I&#8217;ll be most unhappy.</p>
<p>Two things:</p>
<p>1. I don&#8217;t write the headlines, as I&#8217;ve explained previously, and I too complained about the superfluous apostrophe.</p>
<p>2. I don&#8217;t recall urging that all mothers work full-time. The definition of employment is 1 hour a week. Between that and full-time there&#8217;s a variety of possible balances between employment and childcare by both parents and external providers.  All of them are better than a stay-at-home mothers whose skills atrophy while the economy cries out for workers.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted O'Brien</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/03/do-stay-at-home-mums-deserve-special-treatment/#comment-357</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many kids do you have, Bernard?</description>
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		<title>By: Bernard Keane</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/03/do-stay-at-home-mums-deserve-special-treatment/#comment-358</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard Keane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because, Alex, there&#039;s nothing for them to be on &quot;leave&quot; from... duh.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And Jessica, you&#039;re very welcome.  Or were you being sarcastic when you thanked me?  In which case, yes, put your child to work sweeping chimneys or selling matches. We need more productive workers and taxpayers, especially in low-skilled occupations.  Failing that, I understand kids taste delicious baked with some paprika and a little chicken stock.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sarcasm - it&#039;s SOOO hilarious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because, Alex, there&#8217;s nothing for them to be on &#8220;leave&#8221; from&#8230; duh.</p>
<p>And Jessica, you&#8217;re very welcome.  Or were you being sarcastic when you thanked me?  In which case, yes, put your child to work sweeping chimneys or selling matches. We need more productive workers and taxpayers, especially in low-skilled occupations.  Failing that, I understand kids taste delicious baked with some paprika and a little chicken stock.</p>
<p>Sarcasm - it&#8217;s SOOO hilarious.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/03/do-stay-at-home-mums-deserve-special-treatment/#comment-359</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Bernard, for putting me right on this issue. I had not seen, that by staying at home to raise my own children and not farming them out to an underpaid childcare worker in our overstreched childcare system, that I am not contributing in a positive and responsible manner to my own children&#039;s welfare and happiness, but in fact I am a leach on society who should be out in the paid workforce earning a living and thus a right to government support. So not only do the tax dollars I earned while in the workforce not count anymore to helping society, but until I am working again instead of taking responsibility for raising the 2 kids I brought into the world, I don&#039;t deserve a cent of help! I always find it ironic that women who do choose to return to the workforce when they have had children (or, whose circumstances mean they don&#039;t have a choice) that they are paid doubly - once for the job they are doing and once by the system of income support in which their childcare - the means most working parents use to be able to work-  is heavily subsidised. Those of us who are in a position/ make a choice to stay with our kids get little or no help to do so. So, if I want an eighteen year old just-graduated childcare worker (many of whom are lovely and devoted to the children in their care) to be the one to share my kids&#039;  milestones, tears, drawings, steps and smiles, then I get compensated for that choice. If I want to be there myself to raise my kids, I don&#039;t. Fair? But,I&#039;d better get back to work because people can&#039; find the staff they need. Only one problem - I am not a doctor, a tradesperson or a public servant. Should I therefore change careers when I return to the workforce? In fact, should we get the kids into an early trade instead of childcare/school? Perhaps my six-year old who is simply wasting her time in Prep learning to read and write, could reduce the waiting lists for a plumber. And my 2 year old could be an ace horticulturalist - just show her the weeds</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Bernard, for putting me right on this issue. I had not seen, that by staying at home to raise my own children and not farming them out to an underpaid childcare worker in our overstreched childcare system, that I am not contributing in a positive and responsible manner to my own children&#8217;s welfare and happiness, but in fact I am a leach on society who should be out in the paid workforce earning a living and thus a right to government support. So not only do the tax dollars I earned while in the workforce not count anymore to helping society, but until I am working again instead of taking responsibility for raising the 2 kids I brought into the world, I don&#8217;t deserve a cent of help! I always find it ironic that women who do choose to return to the workforce when they have had children (or, whose circumstances mean they don&#8217;t have a choice) that they are paid doubly - once for the job they are doing and once by the system of income support in which their childcare - the means most working parents use to be able to work-  is heavily subsidised. Those of us who are in a position/ make a choice to stay with our kids get little or no help to do so. So, if I want an eighteen year old just-graduated childcare worker (many of whom are lovely and devoted to the children in their care) to be the one to share my kids&#8217;  milestones, tears, drawings, steps and smiles, then I get compensated for that choice. If I want to be there myself to raise my kids, I don&#8217;t. Fair? But,I&#8217;d better get back to work because people can&#8217; find the staff they need. Only one problem - I am not a doctor, a tradesperson or a public servant. Should I therefore change careers when I return to the workforce? In fact, should we get the kids into an early trade instead of childcare/school? Perhaps my six-year old who is simply wasting her time in Prep learning to read and write, could reduce the waiting lists for a plumber. And my 2 year old could be an ace horticulturalist - just show her the weeds</p>
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		<title>By: kez</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/03/do-stay-at-home-mums-deserve-special-treatment/#comment-360</link>
		<dc:creator>kez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am half of a childless couple and sorry folks, but sick of being expected to pay for other people&#039;s life choices.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Either a couple budgets properly and to do it or they don&#039;t.  Why should taxpayers (the government isn&#039;t some faceless patriarch with a bottomless wallet IT IS THE TAXPAYERS) pay for your decision to have children?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we want to make women between the ages of 20 and 45 unemployable, then by all means - - let&#039;s also dump the burden of other people&#039;s choices on business owners.  Sheesh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am half of a childless couple and sorry folks, but sick of being expected to pay for other people&#8217;s life choices.  </p>
<p>Either a couple budgets properly and to do it or they don&#8217;t.  Why should taxpayers (the government isn&#8217;t some faceless patriarch with a bottomless wallet IT IS THE TAXPAYERS) pay for your decision to have children?</p>
<p>If we want to make women between the ages of 20 and 45 unemployable, then by all means - - let&#8217;s also dump the burden of other people&#8217;s choices on business owners.  Sheesh!</p>
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		<title>By: John James</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/03/do-stay-at-home-mums-deserve-special-treatment/#comment-361</link>
		<dc:creator>John James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;..for mothers who refuse to join the workforce..&quot; You could have really driven home the point, Bernard, by referring to the harm they are doing to the &quot;motherland &quot;or the &quot;glorious revolutionary struggle&#039;! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;..for mothers who refuse to join the workforce..&#8221; You could have really driven home the point, Bernard, by referring to the harm they are doing to the &#8220;motherland &#8220;or the &#8220;glorious revolutionary struggle&#8217;!</p>
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