Comments on: Turnbull: Politics, pot and those ‘possible Jewish roots’ http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/02/turnbull-politics-pot-and-those-possible-jewish-roots/ now with extra source Sun, 12 Feb 2012 07:37:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Tom #4 http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/02/turnbull-politics-pot-and-those-possible-jewish-roots/#comment-5750 Tom #4 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5750 Appropo nothing really, I had a little tete-a-tete with net savvy big Mal about 4 years back maybe post pre-selection victory, pre 2004 federal election where Latham burned. It was about the Spy Catcher memoir of Peter Wright which despite all the obvious edits for UK national security was still highly entertaining for the noir.<br /><br />The main thesis of the book was that technician Wright as assistant director of MI5 suspected Roger Hollis as a mole, Hollis being his immediate superior, The Director of Mi5 till 1965 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Hollis<br /><br />Wright being the science based technician was not a rival for the director's job in that career stream but it was his responsibility to be mole hunter, an awful job. <br /><br />So Mal let out a little gem - saying the 'conventional wisdom now post Spy Catcher publication was that Hollis was no mole at all'. So he in fact as gun for hire lawyer helped publish a well intentioned defamation? Ha ha. Now that's funny. Appropo nothing really, I had a little tete-a-tete with net savvy big Mal about 4 years back maybe post pre-selection victory, pre 2004 federal election where Latham burned. It was about the Spy Catcher memoir of Peter Wright which despite all the obvious edits for UK national security was still highly entertaining for the noir.

The main thesis of the book was that technician Wright as assistant director of MI5 suspected Roger Hollis as a mole, Hollis being his immediate superior, The Director of Mi5 till 1965 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Hollis

Wright being the science based technician was not a rival for the director’s job in that career stream but it was his responsibility to be mole hunter, an awful job.

So Mal let out a little gem - saying the ‘conventional wisdom now post Spy Catcher publication was that Hollis was no mole at all’. So he in fact as gun for hire lawyer helped publish a well intentioned defamation? Ha ha. Now that’s funny.

]]> By: Lucy http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/02/turnbull-politics-pot-and-those-possible-jewish-roots/#comment-5751 Lucy Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5751 If Turnbull has had indiscriminate sex with possible Jews, well, that just makes me like him more.<br /><br />Seriously, if the possible Jew thing works for Turnbull, so be it. I just hope it doesn't degenerate into the kind of Jew-baiting Eric Roozendaal faced from the Tele when he was appointed NSW Treasurer (he was forced to "deny" that he would be prevented from "fixing the state" as a result of religious obligations, something I have never seen a Methodist be called upon to do) If Turnbull has had indiscriminate sex with possible Jews, well, that just makes me like him more.

Seriously, if the possible Jew thing works for Turnbull, so be it. I just hope it doesn’t degenerate into the kind of Jew-baiting Eric Roozendaal faced from the Tele when he was appointed NSW Treasurer (he was forced to “deny” that he would be prevented from “fixing the state” as a result of religious obligations, something I have never seen a Methodist be called upon to do)

]]> By: The Kid From Bondi http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/02/turnbull-politics-pot-and-those-possible-jewish-roots/#comment-5752 The Kid From Bondi Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5752 ENOUGH! I am introducing and instituting, as of right now, The Kid From Bondi "Moron Meter" to rate comments by my fellow respondents, posts that are so clearly biased, off the mark, veracity challenged, wrong, or just plain moronic ... so here goes;<br /><br />The Inaugural TKFB "Moron Emeritus" goes to ..... wait for it ..... Guy Rundle ....... in perpetuity, with second place, for today ,going to ... Tommy Mac, a true dolt deserving of today's TKFB MO Award<br /><br />Party on Tom ..... ENOUGH! I am introducing and instituting, as of right now, The Kid From Bondi “Moron Meter” to rate comments by my fellow respondents, posts that are so clearly biased, off the mark, veracity challenged, wrong, or just plain moronic … so here goes;

The Inaugural TKFB “Moron Emeritus” goes to ….. wait for it ….. Guy Rundle ……. in perpetuity, with second place, for today ,going to … Tommy Mac, a true dolt deserving of today’s TKFB MO Award

Party on Tom …..

]]> By: Tom #2 http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/02/turnbull-politics-pot-and-those-possible-jewish-roots/#comment-5753 Tom #2 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5753 And I forgot a third little moral conundrum for big Mal ....<br /><br />Does he agree with some over, hopefully a very few, over that way that it was a good thing when Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated on 4 November 1995 and to quote wikipedia<br /><br /> "Rabin was the first native-born prime minister of Israel, the only prime minister to be assassinated and the second to die in office after Levi Eshkol. In 2005, Rabin was voted the greatest Israeli to ever live."<br /><br />I only ask because in Sept 1995 I was elected as one of 3 Bondi ward councillors at Waverley for the next 4 years of duty and I got the distinct impression of this state of affairs in the back channels when I reached out a hand of sympathy after the tragedy. It wasn't a message of peace to be sure. So let's play the ethnic cards big Mal - see where it leads - you can't put a genie back in the bottle would be my guess. And I forgot a third little moral conundrum for big Mal ….

Does he agree with some over, hopefully a very few, over that way that it was a good thing when Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated on 4 November 1995 and to quote wikipedia

“Rabin was the first native-born prime minister of Israel, the only prime minister to be assassinated and the second to die in office after Levi Eshkol. In 2005, Rabin was voted the greatest Israeli to ever live.”

I only ask because in Sept 1995 I was elected as one of 3 Bondi ward councillors at Waverley for the next 4 years of duty and I got the distinct impression of this state of affairs in the back channels when I reached out a hand of sympathy after the tragedy. It wasn’t a message of peace to be sure. So let’s play the ethnic cards big Mal - see where it leads - you can’t put a genie back in the bottle would be my guess.

]]> By: Tom McLoughlin http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/02/turnbull-politics-pot-and-those-possible-jewish-roots/#comment-5754 Tom McLoughlin Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5754 For those less experienced in the vagaries of the seat of Wentworth/Eastern Suburbs demographics, who can forget the cheap shot at youthful Rose Jackson on the front of the The Australian over her undergraduate analysis of Zionism during the federal election, courtesy of tough guy Mal. He ought to be ashamed of himself.<br /><br />It's the easiest thing in the world to pander to the ultra right amongst the diaspora Jewry of our own citizenry, God bless them, in that sector of the city. But as a lawyer how about some real intellectual rigour on Mal over say the effective aparthied state of the domestic land law in Israel as per the thesis of Palestinian Hebrew Uri Davis? More of this academic here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uri_Davis<br /><br />Another question for liberal minded lawyer Mal - does he approve of the censorship and incarceration of yid Mordechai Vanunu for a decade or more who spent some of his last free days as a backpacker in Kings Cross Sydney in the diverse seat of Wentworth. (Before he was tricked into a trip to Italy and kidnap by Mossad, all too late, the world knew the nuke weapon reality of Israel by then.<br /><br />Over to you Antony Lowenstein, and be sure to pass him back fairly intact so I can have another go. I'm getting a taste for the sport after that roosters, swans, goosey football gag!<br /><br />PS I'm 1/8 Italian of Calabrian origin e.g. home of the Camora. But it's the content of the character as MLK would say. For those less experienced in the vagaries of the seat of Wentworth/Eastern Suburbs demographics, who can forget the cheap shot at youthful Rose Jackson on the front of the The Australian over her undergraduate analysis of Zionism during the federal election, courtesy of tough guy Mal. He ought to be ashamed of himself.

It’s the easiest thing in the world to pander to the ultra right amongst the diaspora Jewry of our own citizenry, God bless them, in that sector of the city. But as a lawyer how about some real intellectual rigour on Mal over say the effective aparthied state of the domestic land law in Israel as per the thesis of Palestinian Hebrew Uri Davis? More of this academic here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uri_Davis

Another question for liberal minded lawyer Mal - does he approve of the censorship and incarceration of yid Mordechai Vanunu for a decade or more who spent some of his last free days as a backpacker in Kings Cross Sydney in the diverse seat of Wentworth. (Before he was tricked into a trip to Italy and kidnap by Mossad, all too late, the world knew the nuke weapon reality of Israel by then.

Over to you Antony Lowenstein, and be sure to pass him back fairly intact so I can have another go. I’m getting a taste for the sport after that roosters, swans, goosey football gag!

PS I’m 1/8 Italian of Calabrian origin e.g. home of the Camora. But it’s the content of the character as MLK would say.

]]> By: steve martin http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/02/turnbull-politics-pot-and-those-possible-jewish-roots/#comment-5755 steve martin Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5755 I imagine that Turnbull reckons that the only people who remember what was said in the past are journalists, and that many people don't get past the headlines or the doorstop comment when forming their opinion. I imagine that Turnbull reckons that the only people who remember what was said in the past are journalists, and that many people don’t get past the headlines or the doorstop comment when forming their opinion.

]]> By: Tom McLoughlin http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/10/02/turnbull-politics-pot-and-those-possible-jewish-roots/#comment-5756 Tom McLoughlin Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5756 "posts that are so clearly biased, off the mark, veracity challenged, wrong, or just plain moronic ... so here goes"<br /><br />What's your problem TKFB, is censorship your true nature? Why not use your own, you know real name? When I said lawyer I was referring to big Mal, but I am also. There was nothing factually incorrect in what I wrote. I sent a letter of condolence to the main synagogue from memory in Bondi Junction. This was some 13 years ago now. <br /><br />No response. I was told about 12 months later. The letter of praise for Rabin and expressing sadness at the hope of peace set back "was not appreciated". This is one reason I say Lowenstein is a breath of fresh air.<br /><br />My reference to the roosters, swans, goose like gaffe by Turnbull was not by accident either. Some 10 minutes after he made that gaff on RN I blogged it chapter and verse and it ran in parliament later that day. My blog is tracked on Qld based business networker Plugger.com.au The gaffe ran all week. And I saw Peter Costello leverage the gaffe again last night at the Seymour centre courtesy, moderate crowed, to real effect (courtesy of the Crikey/MUP complimentary ticket). <br /><br />You make a common error TKFB - I retired from Bondi council in the running for the Mayor because it was boring. Not because I wasn't good at it and didn't know my community. My endorsed successor indigenous Dominic Wy Kanak just missed the mayoralty on Tuesday night in a draw from the hat 9 years later. <br /><br />I know Sally Betts the Liberal mayor quite too. Stay tuned would be my advice. “posts that are so clearly biased, off the mark, veracity challenged, wrong, or just plain moronic … so here goes”

What’s your problem TKFB, is censorship your true nature? Why not use your own, you know real name? When I said lawyer I was referring to big Mal, but I am also. There was nothing factually incorrect in what I wrote. I sent a letter of condolence to the main synagogue from memory in Bondi Junction. This was some 13 years ago now.

No response. I was told about 12 months later. The letter of praise for Rabin and expressing sadness at the hope of peace set back “was not appreciated”. This is one reason I say Lowenstein is a breath of fresh air.

My reference to the roosters, swans, goose like gaffe by Turnbull was not by accident either. Some 10 minutes after he made that gaff on RN I blogged it chapter and verse and it ran in parliament later that day. My blog is tracked on Qld based business networker Plugger.com.au The gaffe ran all week. And I saw Peter Costello leverage the gaffe again last night at the Seymour centre courtesy, moderate crowed, to real effect (courtesy of the Crikey/MUP complimentary ticket).

You make a common error TKFB - I retired from Bondi council in the running for the Mayor because it was boring. Not because I wasn’t good at it and didn’t know my community. My endorsed successor indigenous Dominic Wy Kanak just missed the mayoralty on Tuesday night in a draw from the hat 9 years later.

I know Sally Betts the Liberal mayor quite too. Stay tuned would be my advice.

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